if you permit those that abuse their power to do so without consequence the abuse of that power will go on unchecked to the point there can be no consequence

Wasn't Bush's approval rating at its highest because of 9/11 that had nothing to do with Iraq?

So as I read this post I wonder why so many Americans put the two together all the time?

I personally believe the Iraq war was unneccessary. Iraq had a no fly zone in their own country. They had so many restrictions they where lucky to even manage going to their own bathroom without being arrested.

Just think if the US didn't move their troops to Iraq.

How much the Americans could have perhaps saved? Would the national debt be at 11 trillion today if they didn't go?

How much less world debt they could of haved offering better spending for important programs that help this nation in the end.

at 911 he was around 90%

when he went into iraq he went from 50+ to 70+

war does many things

Yes war does many things, but when he went into Iraq, he did it when his approval rating was very high. He had the whole nations adrenaline going at the moment and knew h e co

It went down later when people realized that Iraq had nothing to do with the 9/11 incident, yet many people still talk as if both incidents are linked together. I can only shake my head.

So in the end if Americans didn't go to Iraq, how much money could this nation have saved. What programs would have been done to help ensure better education, health care, or infrastructure?

I think a few trillion dollars saved could have done alot to this country if spent wisely.

Unfortunately, it didn't so here the nation suffers 11 trillion dollars in debet of which alot of money is borrowed from other countries.

but what about the cost as far as the destabilization of the oil market

that is where the true harm came from

record oil prices

and record fuel profits

companies like exxon were given free reign and that is why the economy is in the tank

if oil goes up 10% the price at the pump did not have to go up 10% that is how they made their record profits

and the govt condoned it even promoted it

and they are doing it again with statements like as lng as gas is less than 2.50 a gallon no one will want to conserve

well excuse me

how come the smart car in europe gets 60+ miles a gallon and in the us it get what maybe 40

what is up with that

it is not about conservation it is about profit

Real pictures with superimposed captions!? NEVER HEARD OF THAT! Oh wait yes I have, its called LOLcats

Absolutely it is only about money.

and corporations will do anything to attain it even if they have to sacrifice lives to achieve this.

or even influence the government to go to war for

If anything perhaps the people of this nation should have been told the truth of why the government wanted to go to war.

Of course if told the truth the people would disagree for the reasons and perhaps have not received the permission to do so in Congress.

So as I sit here about how the Americans are fighting for their nation and defending their country in honor.

Ask yourself what are they really fighting for in Iraq?

So the oil companies truly are the reason and fortunately many Americans have seen this a long time ago.

and again

many haven't and still believe it is a just war.

Onwards Christian Soldiers,

Onwards Buddhist Priests.

Onward, Fruits of Islam,

Fight till you're deceased.

Fight your little battles.

Join in thickest fray;

For the Greater Glory,

of Dis-cord-i-a.

Those who forget the mistakes of the past are destined to repeat them.

Pentagon reports no longer quote Bible
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WASHINGTON — The Pentagon said Monday it no longer includes a Bible quote on the cover page of daily intelligence briefings it sends to the White House as was practice during the Bush administration.

Pentagon spokesman Bryan Whitman said he did not know how long the Worldwide Intelligence Update cover sheets quoted from the Bible. Air Force Maj. Gen. Glen Shaffer, who was responsible for including them, retired in August 2003, according to his biography.

For a period in 2003, at least, the daily reports prepared for President George W. Bush carried quotes from the books of Psalms and Ephesians and the epistles of Peter. At the time, the reports focused largely on the war in Iraq.

The Bible quotes apparently aimed to support Bush at a time when soldiers' deaths in Iraq were on the rise, according to the June issue of GQ magazine. But they offended at least one Muslim analyst at the Pentagon and worried other employees that the passages were inappropriate.

On Thursday, April 10, 2003, for example, the report quoted the book of Psalms — "Behold, the eye of the Lord is on those who fear Him. ... To deliver their soul from death." — and featured pictures of the statue of Saddam Hussein being pulled down and celebrating crowds in Baghdad.

"Therefore put on the full armor of God, so that when the day of evil comes, you may be able to stand your ground, and after you have done everything, to stand," read the cover quote two weeks earlier, on March 31, above a picture of a U.S. tank driving through the desert, according to the magazine, which obtained copies of the documents.

The Rev. Barry W. Lynn, executive director of Americans United for Separation of Church and State, on Monday said U.S. soldiers "are not Christian crusaders, and they ought not be depicted as such."

"Depicting the Iraq conflict as some sort of holy war is completely outrageous," Lynn said in a statement. "It's contrary to the constitutional separation of religion and government, and it's tremendously damaging to America's reputation in the world."

http://www.comcast.net/articles/news-politics/20090518/US.Pentagon.Religious.Quotes/

How did he hide this?

These were probably intentionaly leaked, just like the Abu Graib photos.

It is meant to further inflame the Muslims and continue the Masonic march towards WWIII. After which all fingers will point to religion as the cause, and make way for the new Global Religion.

Funny how Iraq is heating up again just befor our supposed 'withdrawl'. Will we end up having to stay 'just a little longer'?

The Obamanazi's will surely say 'he had to do it'.

As if religion hasn't been part of war down through history. Please!

The war in Iraq was never about WMD's. We knew he had them because we gave them to him back when they were fighting against Iran.

of course there are many reasons for the war in Iraq. perhaps the area is logistically strategic to fight in that region. Plus we did have an excuse....the WMDs that we gave saddam years prior to the current war. just an excuse? we KNOW saddam had WMDS. Isnt the mustard gas that he used against the kurds quite deadly??



fock it. its a mess now. pack up and leave. run and hide. Isnt that what americans are expected to do???



whatever we the people think we know about the war.....i guarantee there are a thousand angles that we havent looked at.


anyhow...ooorahhhhhh

God bless our soldiers.
and for those that have a prob with me saying that.
bite me