Topic: Miss California's Press Conference
Winx's photo
Thu 05/14/09 10:28 PM

laugh This chick also thought that California was its own countrylaugh


Are you serious?shocked

DaveyB's photo
Thu 05/14/09 10:30 PM
Edited by DaveyB on Thu 05/14/09 10:31 PM
I gotta step back and say here that I do believe she got a raw deal during the competition. And I thought Perez was a jerk. From that stand point I've no problems with her. But she is a bigot a liar and hypocritical, definitely not a suitable roll model IMO, regardless of her beliefs.

As for her battle to take freedom away from gays. I hope she continues, any thinking person who hears her speak will have to see the pure idiotic contradictory nature of the argument. Too bad she wasn't the spokes person for Prop 8. People would have seen right through all the lies and it never would have passed.

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Thu 05/14/09 10:30 PM
Anyone notice how she emphasized Windy in the video, that the photos were taken on a WINDY day? Trying to cover your tracks up there little lady..

Oh ya, so they blew her skimpy suit right off her chest.... lmao

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Thu 05/14/09 10:34 PM



They weren't attempted,they were taken away.


Taken away in some places given in others. I still think those who would rob gays of their rights in CA will eventually lose that battle.


Gays have all kinds of special rights.


Name one?


There is also nothing in our constitution that says gays should have special rights or get treated better than the rest of us.


One they don't have any special rights but our constitution does say ALL men should have equal rights. And as your new idol has shown she doesn't believe in the constitution by her very own words "I will not back down in my fight to take away freedoms from gay people". Talk about admitting that she doesn't believe in equality for all.




Special rights of gays...

1.)Extra prison time for attacks on gays or transexuals.

2.)Transexuals allowed to use bathroom or dressing room of their choice because of what sex they claim.

3.)Anti discrimantion bills similar to affirmative action where gays are given prefrence over non gays when it comes to hiring.


Why do you keep saying gays are getting their rights taken away?What rights are you talking about?Yes the constitution says equal rights.Maybe you should read the bill of rights and the constitution because the gays are not being denied any of these.However I do see the gays trying to take away our freedom of speech.




I won't bother adding much to this, Davey seems to have that handled, but dang I can't believe you are this naive.

Winx's photo
Thu 05/14/09 10:37 PM

Anyone notice how she emphasized Windy in the video, that the photos were taken on a WINDY day? Trying to cover your tracks up there little lady..

Oh ya, so they blew her skimpy suit right off her chest.... lmao


She was posing.laugh

no photo
Thu 05/14/09 10:39 PM

I gotta step back and say here that I do believe she got a raw deal during the competition. And I thought Perez was a jerk. From that stand point I've no problems with her. But she is a bigot a liar and hypocritical, definitely not a suitable roll model IMO, regardless of her beliefs.

As for her battle to take freedom away from gays. I hope she continues, any thinking person who hears her speak will have to see the pure idiotic contradictory nature of the argument. Too bad she wasn't the spokes person for Prop 8. People would have seen right through all the lies and it never would have passed.


I too thought she got a raw deal with that question, but since then she has taken full advantage, and if that video posted to this thread is actually what she herself said, than one of the first things out of her mouth was that she was taking full advantage of this.. said it with her own lips, that's if that video wasn't doctored. If she had been a bit older, she might have actually stopped herself after the first two lines..

Has anyone said yet if this video is the real conference?

Winx's photo
Thu 05/14/09 10:42 PM


I gotta step back and say here that I do believe she got a raw deal during the competition. And I thought Perez was a jerk. From that stand point I've no problems with her. But she is a bigot a liar and hypocritical, definitely not a suitable roll model IMO, regardless of her beliefs.

As for her battle to take freedom away from gays. I hope she continues, any thinking person who hears her speak will have to see the pure idiotic contradictory nature of the argument. Too bad she wasn't the spokes person for Prop 8. People would have seen right through all the lies and it never would have passed.


I too thought she got a raw deal with that question, but since then she has taken full advantage, and if that video posted to this thread is actually what she herself said, than one of the first things out of her mouth was that she was taking full advantage of this.. said it with her own lips, that's if that video wasn't doctored. If she had been a bit older, she might have actually stopped herself after the first two lines..

Has anyone said yet if this video is the real conference?


Since you mentioned it, I've been looking. It's late so I'll have to look more tomorrow.

Lynann's photo
Thu 05/14/09 10:42 PM
Okay Thomas3474...your dreams of wedded bliss to a liar are just what's wrong here.

She is a poster girl for idiocy. Oh, not her idiocy by the way...she is crafty like a fox. Laughing all the way to the bank.

The "oh poor me...good Christian girl...manipulated and attacked by the liberal media...dog and pony show...store bought breasts...liar" has demonstrated a startling lack of moral judgmental thus far.

Heck, remove the social issues...what about that pesky ninth commandment? You know, the one about lying? She broke that going in.

Hypocrites!

I don't give a rat's behind about the photo's...what I do care about is her making a circus of being a Christian and her rallying support around that when she lied about the photos ever having been taken. If...and if it were an innocent modeling shoot why did she lie on her application for the pageant?

(I should add here I really don't give a rat's behind about the cow or the cattle show. What I care about is the manipulation and hypocrisy here)

Come on? Don't you feel a little silly biting on this silly ****? She is laughing all the way to the bank. It's pathetic.

Anyone have a really big set of pliers to pull the hook out of the mouth of the silly fish?

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Thu 05/14/09 10:42 PM


Anyone notice how she emphasized Windy in the video, that the photos were taken on a WINDY day? Trying to cover your tracks up there little lady..

Oh ya, so they blew her skimpy suit right off her chest.... lmao


She was posing.laugh


OH yes I was looking directly into the camera, it was a windy day.. She never would have noticed that the wind had blown her suite off her breast or breasts? So she has not feeling in her breasts huh, poor thing. I say keep her talking, she's the best laugh I have had in a long time.

Lynann's photo
Thu 05/14/09 10:44 PM
Dunno about you but I am ready to contribute to the honeymoon fund.

Winx's photo
Thu 05/14/09 10:45 PM
laugh

Thomas3474's photo
Thu 05/14/09 10:45 PM





Winx you keep saying that but really who cares?Those photos are no moral immoral than a victorias secret catalog.She even claimed that the photographer photographed and later photoshopped those photos.I believe her because.

1.)There is only two photos out of probably several hundred taken of that shoot.

2.)There is no other photos except for one in her underwear out there.

I also don't know why you keep putting down this girl on morals when if you look at the other models you will find all kinds of photos of full nudity and in sexual situations.Are you expecting this girl to be like Saint Teresa or something because she is a Christian?Your logic makes no sense to me.



I care. I was a girl that grew up watching Miss America. When Miss Universe was in St. Louis, my cousin was one of the little girls in it. I was there. I was behind stage meeting the contestants.

Those girls sign a morality contract for a reason. She lied when she signed it!!!!

Two photos? Try counting them again. You obviously didn't look at the link that I posted showing the pics. She's wearing other things then underwear. She didn't claim photo shopping at her press conference. She had a very unbelievable excuse for them.

Other models aren't the issue here. It has nothing to do with her religion either - to me. She is supposed to be Miss USA. That is a whole other ballgame. There are different rules there.



I said it before she is a model.Isn't part of the competition the swimsuit competition?Models are supposed to dress and look sexy.We both know there is a double standard because if it was any other girl than this girl who claimed she is a Christian nobody including you would give a crap about those photos.And who looks up to Miss America as a role model anyways?I would say if anything the young girls look up to movie stars and singers as role models.

Sorry but I live in reality.I know that every model is going to have at least a few if not many photos where she is nude or semi nude.I seriously don't know what the big deal is.If you so worried about morality perhaps you should protest the women in those rap videos and Brittney spears videos which children watch on a daily basis.

Winx's photo
Thu 05/14/09 10:52 PM
Edited by Winx on Thu 05/14/09 10:54 PM

I said it before she is a model.Isn't part of the competition the swimsuit competition?Models are supposed to dress and look sexy.We both know there is a double standard because if it was any other girl than this girl who claimed she is a Christian nobody including you would give a crap about those photos.And who looks up to Miss America as a role model anyways?I would say if anything the young girls look up to movie stars and singers as role models.

Sorry but I live in reality.I know that every model is going to have at least a few if not many photos where she is nude or semi nude.I seriously don't know what the big deal is.If you so worried about morality perhaps you should protest the women in those rap videos and Brittney spears videos which children watch on a daily basis.


I would feel the same way if it was any other contestant. I didn't like it that Trump let the one contestant (Connor, was it) and her drug problem slide. He's changed the pageant.

Sure, she was a model before. That doesn't excuse the fact that she lied when she signed the morality contract and said that there were no such photos of her with partial nudity.

Brittany Spears is old news. She's not trying out for Miss USA either. There's different standards there.

If your concerned about morality, why don't you care that she lied when she signed a morality contract? She lied and signed her name to it and was hoping the photos would never appear.


Thomas3474's photo
Thu 05/14/09 10:57 PM

Okay Thomas3474...your dreams of wedded bliss to a liar are just what's wrong here.

She is a poster girl for idiocy. Oh, not her idiocy by the way...she is crafty like a fox. Laughing all the way to the bank.

The "oh poor me...good Christian girl...manipulated and attacked by the liberal media...dog and pony show...store bought breasts...liar" has demonstrated a startling lack of moral judgmental thus far.

Heck, remove the social issues...what about that pesky ninth commandment? You know, the one about lying? She broke that going in.

Hypocrites!

I don't give a rat's behind about the photo's...what I do care about is her making a circus of being a Christian and her rallying support around that when she lied about the photos ever having been taken. If...and if it were an innocent modeling shoot why did she lie on her application for the pageant?

(I should add here I really don't give a rat's behind about the cow or the cattle show. What I care about is the manipulation and hypocrisy here)

Come on? Don't you feel a little silly biting on this silly ****? She is laughing all the way to the bank. It's pathetic.

Anyone have a really big set of pliers to pull the hook out of the mouth of the silly fish?



Well lynn myself and the majority of America don't see things the way you do.We believe in free speech and yes we can form our own opinion.She is pissed off and rightfully so.As I have said before interesting how she is such a idiot in your eyes but Obama said the exact same thing yet he is some how placed in a different catagory.There is absolutely no doubt this whole fiasco is nothing but the gays trying to attack and smear anyone who is against them.That was the plan from the start.They figured they had the momentum from the legalization of gay marriage in two more states and Ms California supporting gay marriage would put the icing on the cake.


As far as laughing.Mr Perez just set back the gay movment no less than 4 years.He has unleashed a firestorm of protest and pissed off everyone from the Christians to the Aethest.Because of his stupid remarks it has given the gay agenda a very negative and racist view towards anyone who opposes them.I should thank him.He just gave the America all the more reason why gay marriage should not be supported.

Winx's photo
Thu 05/14/09 10:59 PM
Mr. Perez is taking all of this to the bank.

no photo
Thu 05/14/09 11:00 PM






Winx you keep saying that but really who cares?Those photos are no moral immoral than a victorias secret catalog.She even claimed that the photographer photographed and later photoshopped those photos.I believe her because.

1.)There is only two photos out of probably several hundred taken of that shoot.

2.)There is no other photos except for one in her underwear out there.

I also don't know why you keep putting down this girl on morals when if you look at the other models you will find all kinds of photos of full nudity and in sexual situations.Are you expecting this girl to be like Saint Teresa or something because she is a Christian?Your logic makes no sense to me.



I care. I was a girl that grew up watching Miss America. When Miss Universe was in St. Louis, my cousin was one of the little girls in it. I was there. I was behind stage meeting the contestants.

Those girls sign a morality contract for a reason. She lied when she signed it!!!!

Two photos? Try counting them again. You obviously didn't look at the link that I posted showing the pics. She's wearing other things then underwear. She didn't claim photo shopping at her press conference. She had a very unbelievable excuse for them.

Other models aren't the issue here. It has nothing to do with her religion either - to me. She is supposed to be Miss USA. That is a whole other ballgame. There are different rules there.



I said it before she is a model.Isn't part of the competition the swimsuit competition?Models are supposed to dress and look sexy.We both know there is a double standard because if it was any other girl than this girl who claimed she is a Christian nobody including you would give a crap about those photos.And who looks up to Miss America as a role model anyways?I would say if anything the young girls look up to movie stars and singers as role models.

Sorry but I live in reality.I know that every model is going to have at least a few if not many photos where she is nude or semi nude.I seriously don't know what the big deal is.If you so worried about morality perhaps you should protest the women in those rap videos and Brittney spears videos which children watch on a daily basis.


And the laughs keep coming, dang. If one lived even remotely in reality one would have to see right through this young woman.
I frankly don't care about Models, period, and don't give a hoot what religion they are associated with either. This is about a young girl that hasn't a clue about life, much less how to give a coherent speech in front of an audience. I never saw the pageant, but damn if her performance was anything like this video, they have 8 dim witted judges. How could this woman have won? Actually I thought another woman won.. guess I just didn't pay all that much attention.

Thomas3474's photo
Thu 05/14/09 11:01 PM


I said it before she is a model.Isn't part of the competition the swimsuit competition?Models are supposed to dress and look sexy.We both know there is a double standard because if it was any other girl than this girl who claimed she is a Christian nobody including you would give a crap about those photos.And who looks up to Miss America as a role model anyways?I would say if anything the young girls look up to movie stars and singers as role models.

Sorry but I live in reality.I know that every model is going to have at least a few if not many photos where she is nude or semi nude.I seriously don't know what the big deal is.If you so worried about morality perhaps you should protest the women in those rap videos and Brittney spears videos which children watch on a daily basis.


I would feel the same way if it was any other contestant. I didn't like it that Trump let the one contestant (Connor, was it) and her drug problem slide. He's changed the pageant.

Sure, she was a model before. That doesn't excuse the fact that she lied when she signed the morality contract and said that there were no such photos of her with partial nudity.

Brittany Spears is old news. She's not trying out for Miss USA either. There's different standards there.

If your concerned about morality, why don't you care that she lied when she signed a morality contract? She lied and signed her name to it and was hoping the photos would never appear.





Why would I care about a models morality contract?Why is it any of my business to begin with?There is certianly more important issues concerning morality we could be debating instead of a models conctract.You are also missing the whole point.Those photos were not included in the Miss USA pagent and were taken when she was 17.So how is that a breech of her morality contract when she signed the contract many years after the photos were taken.You are assuming those were taken during the pagent when they were not.

Out of all the topics I have debated in my lifetime this is the dumbest.

Winx's photo
Thu 05/14/09 11:06 PM
Edited by Winx on Thu 05/14/09 11:08 PM



I said it before she is a model.Isn't part of the competition the swimsuit competition?Models are supposed to dress and look sexy.We both know there is a double standard because if it was any other girl than this girl who claimed she is a Christian nobody including you would give a crap about those photos.And who looks up to Miss America as a role model anyways?I would say if anything the young girls look up to movie stars and singers as role models.

Sorry but I live in reality.I know that every model is going to have at least a few if not many photos where she is nude or semi nude.I seriously don't know what the big deal is.If you so worried about morality perhaps you should protest the women in those rap videos and Brittney spears videos which children watch on a daily basis.


I would feel the same way if it was any other contestant. I didn't like it that Trump let the one contestant (Connor, was it) and her drug problem slide. He's changed the pageant.

Sure, she was a model before. That doesn't excuse the fact that she lied when she signed the morality contract and said that there were no such photos of her with partial nudity.

Brittany Spears is old news. She's not trying out for Miss USA either. There's different standards there.

If your concerned about morality, why don't you care that she lied when she signed a morality contract? She lied and signed her name to it and was hoping the photos would never appear.

Why would I care about a models morality contract?Why is it any of my business to begin with?There is certianly more important issues concerning morality we could be debating instead of a models conctract.You are also missing the whole point.Those photos were not included in the Miss USA pagent and were taken when she was 17.So how is that a breech of her morality contract when she signed the contract many years after the photos were taken.You are assuming those were taken during the pagent when they were not.

Out of all the topics I have debated in my lifetime this is the dumbest.


This wasn't a model's contract! This was the contract for Miss USA. She is the woman that represents our country when she competes in Miss Universe. She is the woman that goes to schools and talks with children and more.

The photos that I showed were taken when she was 20 yrs. old.

I was never assuming those pics were taken during the pageant!!

You're missing the whole point! Yes, those photos were taken before the pageant. She lied when she signed the contract saying that they never existed!

Also, she knew that she was trying out for the pageant years before she got there. Those girls work their way up to that level for years in advance.

no photo
Thu 05/14/09 11:14 PM


Okay Thomas3474...your dreams of wedded bliss to a liar are just what's wrong here.

She is a poster girl for idiocy. Oh, not her idiocy by the way...she is crafty like a fox. Laughing all the way to the bank.

The "oh poor me...good Christian girl...manipulated and attacked by the liberal media...dog and pony show...store bought breasts...liar" has demonstrated a startling lack of moral judgmental thus far.

Heck, remove the social issues...what about that pesky ninth commandment? You know, the one about lying? She broke that going in.

Hypocrites!

I don't give a rat's behind about the photo's...what I do care about is her making a circus of being a Christian and her rallying support around that when she lied about the photos ever having been taken. If...and if it were an innocent modeling shoot why did she lie on her application for the pageant?

(I should add here I really don't give a rat's behind about the cow or the cattle show. What I care about is the manipulation and hypocrisy here)

Come on? Don't you feel a little silly biting on this silly ****? She is laughing all the way to the bank. It's pathetic.

Anyone have a really big set of pliers to pull the hook out of the mouth of the silly fish?



Well lynn myself and the majority of America don't see things the way you do.We believe in free speech and yes we can form our own opinion.She is pissed off and rightfully so.As I have said before interesting how she is such a idiot in your eyes but Obama said the exact same thing yet he is some how placed in a different catagory.There is absolutely no doubt this whole fiasco is nothing but the gays trying to attack and smear anyone who is against them.That was the plan from the start.They figured they had the momentum from the legalization of gay marriage in two more states and Ms California supporting gay marriage would put the icing on the cake.


As far as laughing.Mr Perez just set back the gay movment no less than 4 years.He has unleashed a firestorm of protest and pissed off everyone from the Christians to the Aethest.Because of his stupid remarks it has given the gay agenda a very negative and racist view towards anyone who opposes them.I should thank him.He just gave the America all the more reason why gay marriage should not be supported.


Just how blind can one be? If Perez set anyone back he set himself back. And this young lady hasn't set anyone but herself back if those were her words. I'll be laughing in my sleep, I hope she doesn't like listening to herself because she might just faint when she realizes what she actually said.

Winx's photo
Thu 05/14/09 11:23 PM
I'm going to sleep now. You all be good. I want to see this thread tomorrow!