Topic: Democrats were routinely briefed
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Sat 05/09/09 08:04 AM
Democrats were routinely briefed on Bush ‘torture’ techniques, document shows

John Byrne
Raw Story
Saturday, May 9, 2009

The CIA has released a devastating document detailing the dates and explicit details of secret Congressional briefings in which members of Congress were told of the Bush administration’s torture techniques and when they had been used.

The document is explicit (PDF here http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124174688873899443.html). Most damning, perhaps, is its description of a meeting held between CIA staff and then-House Intelligence Committee Chairman Porter Goss and now-House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, which shows that Pelosi was briefed on the Bush Administration’s torture techniques in 2002 — even though she’s publicly said she was never told about the use of waterboarding.

Equally striking, however, is the volume of the briefings that have been conducted on the CIA’s interrogation practices since 2002. The document runs ten pages, with up to four briefings a page.

Briefings given to Democrats are of particular significance because the party has been the most vocal about the Bush Administration’s torture practices. Apparently, however, they had known about the practices for years. At least 19 Democrats were briefed about the techniques in detail by end of 2006.

Those briefed earliest on the so-called “enhanced interrogation techniques” included Pelosi, Goss, Rep. Jane Harman, then-Sen. Bob Graham (D-FL), Sen. John Rockefeller (D), Sen Patrick Roberts (R-KN) and Sen. Richard Shelby (R-AL).

On Sept. 6, 2006, the CIA briefed the full Senate Intelligence Committee, excluding Sen. Ron Wyden (D-WA), who did not attend. According to the document, “Significant details of EITs were provided in this briefing to include mentions of waterboarding, diet manipulation, nudity, walling, and stomach slap.” EIT is shorthand for “Enhanced Interrogation Technique.”

The Committee’s composition then included:

Pat Roberts,KansasChairman John D. Rockefeller IV, West VirginiaVice Chairman




Orrin G. Hatch, Utah Carl Levin, Michigan
Mike DeWine, Ohio Dianne Feinstein, California
Christopher S. Bond, Missouri Ron Wyden, Oregon
Trent Lott, Mississippi Evan Bayh, Indiana
Olympia J. Snowe, Maine Barbara A. Mikulski, Maryland
Chuck Hagel, Nebraska Russell D. Feingold, Wisconsin
Saxby Chambliss, Georgia

The CIA director also briefed the House Intelligence Committee that day (all of whom attended except Mike Rogers [R-MI]). “The Director briefed on specific EITs, provided detailed descriptions and answered numerous questions on the specific techniques,” the report says.

Members of theHouse Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence,109th Congress
Democrats: Republicans:
Jane Harman (Calif.)
Alcee L. Hastings (Fla.)
Silvestre Reyes (Texas)
Leonard L. Boswell (Iowa)
Bud Cramer (Ala.)
Anna G. Eshoo (Calif.)
Rush D. Holt (N.J.)
Dutch Ruppersberger (Md.)
John Tierney (Mass.)
Peter Hoekstra (Mich.), Chairman
Ray LaHood (Ill.)
Terry Everett (Ala.)
Elton Gallegly (Calif.)
Heather Wilson (N.M.)
Jo Ann Davis (Va.)
Mac Thornberry (Texas)
John McHugh (N.Y.)
Todd Tiahrt (Kan.)
Mike Rogers (Mich.)
Rick Renzi (Ariz.)
Darrell Issa (Calif.)


Also briefed were Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) and then-Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist (R-TN).

“The Director [of National Intelligence] ‘provided significant details, naming all EITs and providing a verbal description of most EITs,’ the report says. “There was also a specific description of waterboarding.”

It’s important to note that all of the briefings were held in secret, and that lawmakers could have faced criminal prosecution if they spoke out. However, at least two Democrats did lodge complaints: Sen. Rockefeller, expressed his disapproval of items he learned during the briefings in a personal, hand-written letter to Vice President **** Cheney; while, as the Washington Post revealed in December of 2007 that in 2003 Rep. Jane Harman (D-Calif.) “filed a classified letter to the CIA…as an official protest about the interrogation program.”

“The report, submitted to the Senate Intelligence Committee and other Capitol Hill officials Wednesday, appears to contradict Pelosi’s statement last month that she was never told about the use of waterboarding or other special interrogation tactics,” ABC’s Rick Klein writes. “Instead, she has said, she was told only that the Bush administration had legal opinions that would have supported the use of such techniques.”

On Sept. 4, 2002, US intelligence officials met with Pelosi, then-House intelligence committee chairman Porter Goss (who later became CIA director) and two aides. Pelosi was, at the time, the ranking member on the intelligence committee.

“The meeting is described as a “Briefing on EITs including use of EITs on Abu Zubaydah, background on authorities, and a description of particular EITs that had been employed.”

Last month, Pelosi denied having been told of the techniques or waterboarding.

“In that or any other briefing,” she said, “we were not, and I repeat, were not told that waterboarding or any of these other enhanced interrogation techniques were used,” Pelosi said at a news conference in April. “What they did tell us is that they had some legislative counsel . . . opinions that they could be used, but not that they would.”

Pelosi spokesman Brendan Daly said Pelosi didn’t remember the meeting as it was described in the report.

“The briefers described these techniques, said they were legal, but said that waterboarding had not yet been used,” Daly told ABC. He said “the report backs up Pelosi’s contention that she was briefed only once on “enhanced interrogation techniques.”

“As this document shows, the speaker was briefed only once, in September 2002,” Daly said.


yellowrose10's photo
Sat 05/09/09 08:38 AM
I posted a thread about Pelosi knowing and wondered how many others knew too

Anton_k's photo
Sat 05/09/09 09:40 AM
they are all acting like innocent little kids now.. ...i was never informed about this..but they lie like dogs.records show they were informed of every move going to happen..and just how it was going to be done ..nobody had a problem with it..besides they had strict guidelines they had to follow with each type of interrogation ,and doctors present ..another load from the dems..grumble

yellowrose10's photo
Sat 05/09/09 09:50 AM
could be me...but I'm kinda interestd to know who gets outed IF an investigation happens

nogames39's photo
Sat 05/09/09 10:32 AM
Devastating? There is nothing new.

Listen, ANY DEMOCRAT, is capable of murder and torture. Why would I say that? Because any democrat by definition must support an armed extortion of private property, which is exactly the same thing that a street thug does.

Anton_k's photo
Sat 05/09/09 04:03 PM

could be me...but I'm kinda interestd to know who gets outed IF an investigation happens


low man on the totem pole..just like caldera..in the fly over..you for one seconed didn't think Obama didn't know where his plane was and how long it would be gone for the pictures..i think not..