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Topic: Audit the FED! Ron Paul on HR1207
Sojourning_Soul's photo
Sat 05/09/09 04:21 AM
http://realityreport.blip.tv/file/2082854/

Sorry for those on dial-up, but this is Ron Paul in an interview with Gary Franchi of Freedom.TV about his bill HR1207 for transparency and an audit of the Fed.

In short, contact your congressman/woman seeking their support of this bill. We need to know where our money is, where it is going, how it is used, and if it used in our best interest.

Is our nations gold still safe within Fort Knox? Has it been stolen or sold? Nobody knows, not even our own Treasury Dept, because we can't audit the FED who controls it!

warmachine's photo
Sat 05/09/09 07:49 AM

http://realityreport.blip.tv/file/2082854/

Sorry for those on dial-up, but this is Ron Paul in an interview with Gary Franchi of Freedom.TV about his bill HR1207 for transparency and an audit of the Fed.

In short, contact your congressman/woman seeking their support of this bill. We need to know where our money is, where it is going, how it is used, and if it used in our best interest.

Is our nations gold still safe within Fort Knox? Has it been stolen or sold? Nobody knows, not even our own Treasury Dept, because we can't audit the FED who controls it!


Audit the Fed? Damn right. Then fire their criminal a$$es.

Awesome post!

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Sat 05/09/09 07:59 AM
I wouldn't mind seeing that happen, has it ever been done before? I have dial up and not time for that link, but like the idea.

yellowrose10's photo
Sat 05/09/09 08:37 AM
drinker

Fanta46's photo
Sat 05/09/09 08:55 AM
Edited by Fanta46 on Sat 05/09/09 08:58 AM

http://realityreport.blip.tv/file/2082854/

Sorry for those on dial-up, but this is Ron Paul in an interview with Gary Franchi of Freedom.TV about his bill HR1207 for transparency and an audit of the Fed.

In short, contact your congressman/woman seeking their support of this bill. We need to know where our money is, where it is going, how it is used, and if it used in our best interest.

Is our nations gold still safe within Fort Knox? Has it been stolen or sold? Nobody knows, not even our own Treasury Dept, because we can't audit the FED who controls it!


Stolen?

Who took it?
Without anyone noticing?

Ft. Know holds a lot of gold bars.
Sitting within site of a US Army Installation
with 30,000 combat troops,
equipped with Apache Helicopters, tanks, etc.

The US holds twice as much gold bullion
as the second largest holder.(Germany)
Seems someone would notice that many heavy trucks rolling in and out of Ft. Knox.
I think it took 500 rail cars to get what's in Ft Knox there.

Sold?

Who bought it? China? LOL Im sorry, I cant help myself.
We owe China $1.7 trillion US dollars.
The US has 8,133.5 Tonnes of Gold.
China-1,104 tonnes. (So they say!)

I wished they'd go ahead and let Ron Paul supervise the audit him self
just so he'd shut up!
I back HR 1207!drinker

Fanta46's photo
Sat 05/09/09 09:15 AM

I wouldn't mind seeing that happen, has it ever been done before? I have dial up and not time for that link, but like the idea.


Yes!
http://www.ustreas.gov/inspector-general/audit-reports/2007/oig07006.pdf

http://www.ustreas.gov/inspector-general/audit-reports/2007/oig07022.pdf



yellowrose10's photo
Sat 05/09/09 09:44 AM
I think it's needed!!!!!!!!!!

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Sat 05/09/09 10:36 AM
Hey Fanta, I am well armed too. Therefore, it should immediately follow to you, that I have a bridge in my possession. Want to buy it?

The presence of armed forces does not guarantee that:

1. there is something to guard.
2. that even if there was, it is not stolen yet, by the bureaucrats who control the armed forces.


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Sat 05/09/09 10:38 AM

I wouldn't mind seeing that happen, has it ever been done before? I have dial up and not time for that link, but like the idea.


All there was, an audit of FED by the government. This is exactly as devastating as an audit of Al Capone by his mother.

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Sat 05/09/09 10:45 AM
As for the very existence of the gold in F. Knox, stop watching those cheep TV shows. It is called "movie magic". Anything can be done on the screen. It proves nothing, unless you trust the makers, but then if you do, you shouldn't need a movie, since you trust their word.

The gold was sold out, during a number of years, and it is being sold daily. Where have you been?

Look up "Gold lease rates". I believe I have personally posted at least twice on this very forum, in detail, about the mechanism of gold sales under the disguise of "leasing".

Do you see now, Fanta, why I don't want to live in a tyranny that you keep advocating? Even if I trust you personally (which I do), I still cannot trust such system.
Turns out the whole gold stock might be missing, and you wouldn't even take a notice, nor see the difference between an audit by a real auditor and that of a government thug.

Sojourning_Soul's photo
Sat 05/09/09 11:34 AM
Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Sat 05/09/09 11:36 AM
The truth as I understand it (I have seen videos and read articles of Treasury and government personnel) is that since handing over control of our dollar to the FED they became responsible for the gold in our treasury (as deposit). They have not been audited since the early 20's (so I understand... and remember the crash of 1929? Handing control over to them in 1913 was supposed to guarantee that wouldn't happen again.... EVER!) and nobody knows for sure if the gold is still there or not. Without an audit, it can't be assured it remains.

If you trust a private bank with your money, then why do we have FDIC? And still, how good is FDIC when the guarantee is backed by fiat money printed from thin air, by the same people who insure it?

We need transparency of the FED if they are going to control our money, set interest rates, print currency and make loans. It just makes sense!

Like Ron Paul says in the video "it may not be true audit, but anything is a beginning.".

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Sat 05/09/09 12:14 PM
The Depository was completed in December 1936 at a cost of $560,000. Building materials used included 16,000 cubic feet of granite, 4,200 cubic yards of concrete, 750 tons of reinforcing steel, and 670 tons of structural steel. It is located approximately 30 miles southwest of Louisville, Kentucky, on a site which was formerly a part of the Fort Knox military reservation. The first gold was moved to the Depository by railroad in January 1937. That series of shipments was completed in June 1937.

During World War II, the U.S. Bullion Depository continued to operate at Fort Knox, receiving more and more shipments of the country’s gold reserves. The Gold Vault was also used to store and to safeguard the English crown jewels and the Magna Carta, along with the gold reserves of several of the countries of occupied Europe.


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Sat 05/09/09 12:43 PM
I assume your question is rhetorical, and you already understand, that FDIC (nor FED) does not guarantee anything, nor was it ever designed to guarantee anything. Contrary, of course, to what we all are continuously fed by the various media and government propaganda.

I find it extremely interesting, that the main purpose of FED, while in plain sight, continues to evade even the most determined. For some reason, people do place a value in propaganda. I don't trust propaganda, may-be by some freak of nature, I don't know, but the absolute majority does.

Even when I see folks determined to find the truth, they would still predictably go and read the propaganda statements, to either:
- allow propaganda to be the center of their research, or;
- to at least influence their judgment.

Why? There is no necessity to know anything official about what FED or the state says about baking, but only to examine what we can observe, to come to a conclusion of what is the purpose and meaning of the FED.

Where is this a priori trust coming from? How to repudiate it?

Curious, isn't it?

If I hit your scull with my fist, and attempt to give you a story, would you listen? Not if you sober. You already know everything from simply observing my actions.

But turn to the dealings of the people and the bureaucrats, and the sober judgment disappears. FED tells you that it took your money away from you by force for your own good, and you listen! Why? Don't you already see it's actions? FED took the gold of every American, by physical force. You still trust anything it says? You even listen?

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Sat 05/09/09 12:47 PM
Why not use the scientific method?

Do we take the statement from an elephant before we can figure out what it does, how and why? Of course not, because we can't. Nevertheless, we are perfectly capable of deducting everything we want to know about that elephant.

Yet, take the FED, and your intellectual might vanishes. Suddenly, we need FED to explain us what is it they doing. Can't you see with your own eyes, without asking the FED, the perpetrator?

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Sat 05/09/09 03:24 PM
Audit the FED? A bit too late, I think.

I'm still trying to figure out how all the agencies SPECIFICALLY designed to oversee various banking industry transactions have failed so miserabley.

Likewise, I'm at a total loss to understand why the wealthiest of corporations supporting the largest component of this countries industries, not only needed to be bailed out, but is still bankrupt --The auto industries? Who's been looking over their shoulder, as top officials in those companies amassed billions??? They remain one of the greatest 'bread & butter' industries of working people and they are going under.

I don't think the FED did that? - not on either account.

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Sat 05/09/09 03:33 PM

The Depository was completed in December 1936 at a cost of $560,000. Building materials used included 16,000 cubic feet of granite, 4,200 cubic yards of concrete, 750 tons of reinforcing steel, and 670 tons of structural steel. It is located approximately 30 miles southwest of Louisville, Kentucky, on a site which was formerly a part of the Fort Knox military reservation. The first gold was moved to the Depository by railroad in January 1937. That series of shipments was completed in June 1937.

During World War II, the U.S. Bullion Depository continued to operate at Fort Knox, receiving more and more shipments of the country’s gold reserves. The Gold Vault was also used to store and to safeguard the English crown jewels and the Magna Carta, along with the gold reserves of several of the countries of occupied Europe.





what maybe 2 minutes talking about auditing fort knox stock and you see nothing about the actual audit of the federal reserve

listen to the interview and you will see the federal reserve is a private inanity their are policy points of the federal reserve that congress can not even get an crumb of oversight on

kinda like the magician drawing your attention to their left hand while their right hand is in your pocket

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Sat 05/09/09 03:36 PM
'I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around the banks will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered.'

http://www.correntewire.com/thomas_jefferson_banks_biggest_danger_liberty

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Sun 05/10/09 01:53 PM

'I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around the banks will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered.'

http://www.correntewire.com/thomas_jefferson_banks_biggest_danger_liberty


This has already happened. Their children are all poor. All they have is paper, and they have no idea that somebody simply prints what they labor for, and therefore, they are sub servant to someone.

Ignorance is bliss, it must be, cause they seem to enjoy being a servant.

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Mon 05/11/09 08:30 AM

Why not use the scientific method?

Do we take the statement from an elephant before we can figure out what it does, how and why? Of course not, because we can't. Nevertheless, we are perfectly capable of deducting everything we want to know about that elephant.

Yet, take the FED, and your intellectual might vanishes. Suddenly, we need FED to explain us what is it they doing. Can't you see with your own eyes, without asking the FED, the perpetrator?


drinker drinker drinker

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Tue 05/12/09 08:05 AM
When the Fed was created the US Gov took control of all gold from private holders.
These private holders had driven the country into recession after recession, and more than one depression.
Gold did not stop the frequent economic meltdowns. In fact the economy has never been lore stable than since the creation of the FED.
There are so many related problems with private ownership of the country's gold it isnt funny. Too many to list here.
When the Gov confiscated the gold from private holdings it pissed a lot of people off. At first they tried to reclaim their gold by force.
They planned a coup of the US Gov under FDR to undo the FED. It was unsuccessful thanks to a Patriotic Gen Smedley Butler.

In 1934, he alleged to the United States Congress that a group of wealthy industrialists had plotted a military coup known as the Business Plot to overthrow the government of President Franklin D. Roosevelt.

Now! IMO, this same group backs Ron Paul and his mostly unpopular rhetoric.
They still want to control the gold and therefore set the price according to their greed.

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