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Topic: Some More Jefferson Quotes and Why Obama is a terrorist!
Dragoness's photo
Sat 05/09/09 07:09 PM





What?

What?


No balls?


Whoever photo shopped it, did not want to make it obscene....lol

Winx's photo
Sat 05/09/09 07:15 PM





What?

What?


No balls?


Why are you looking so closely in that area?laugh

yellowrose10's photo
Sat 05/09/09 07:16 PM
did you notice the ladies in here didn't catch on to that???laugh

nogames39's photo
Sat 05/09/09 07:41 PM
Looking so closely?

Only if you expected his balls to be the size of berries, you'd have to look close to notice there isn't anything at all.

I always gave a man a benefit of a doubt. Just like now. I expected balls of still, size 12 or larger, and was shocked, when a picture appeared almost blank. Something was a miss!

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Sun 05/10/09 12:20 AM

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Sun 05/10/09 12:22 AM


Drivinmenutz's photo
Mon 05/11/09 08:43 AM

A wise and frugal government, which shall leave men free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned - this is the sum of good government.
Thomas Jefferson

"[The purpose of a written constitution is] to bind up the several
branches of government by certain laws, which, when they
transgress, their acts shall become nullities; to render
unnecessary an appeal to the people, or in other words a rebellion,
on every infraction of their rights, on the peril that their
acquiescence shall be construed into an intention to surrender
those rights." --Thomas Jefferson: Notes on Virginia, 1782. Q.XIII

"The foundation on which all [our State constitutions] are built
is the natural equality of man, the denial of every pre-eminence
but that annexed to legal office and particularly the denial of a
pre-eminence by birth." --Thomas Jefferson to George Washington,
1784.

"Man [is] a rational animal, endowed by nature with rights and
with an innate sense of justice." --Thomas Jefferson to William
Johnson, 1823.

"It is to secure our rights that we resort to government at all."
--Thomas Jefferson to Francois D'Ivernois, 1795.


"The equal rights of man and the happiness of every individual
are now acknowledged to be the only legitimate objects of
government." --Thomas Jefferson to A. Coray, 1823
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

"Leave no authority existing not responsible to the people."
--Thomas Jefferson to Isaac H. Tiffany, 1816.

We already had Bush start to demolish the constitution with his patriot acts, and now we have Obama trying to tell people who go out and earn a living to give 40% of their money away on his new proposed plan? I honestly believe the entrepeneurs are going to say to hell with US soon and just split, then what are we going to do? The wealthy have the ability to just up and leave as far as i'm concerned, would they want to? Probably not, but they will if this new tax plan Obama is trying to push goes through. And then Obama has the nerve to shake all the hands of the enemies of the United States saying the words "America screwed up i'm sorry????" He's a terrorist. I think it's time for a revolution. Soon.



I love reading quotes from our founding fathers. However, I believe it was Alexander Hamilton (ironically one of our founding fathers) who first attempted to overide the constitution with the development of a central bank. Hist party was sucessful twice, then abolished by Thomas Jefferson, and then ANdrew Jackson. Interesting fact: Andrew Jackson was the only president in history to pay off our national debt.

In 1913 under Woodrow Wilson, the powers that be organized this illegal central bank again and it still stands today and is called the Federal Reserve.

Now our money is no longer backed by gold or silver which is illegal, as gold and silver COIN is to be our only legal tender. THis is also illegal. Also the confiscation of gold was an illegal act as well.

Bush definitely did his damage with the patriot act taking away our 4th and 5th amendment rights. Obama, somehow seems to support this idea, as he reinstated it himself. Now his administration is pushing through what is called a Fairness Doctrine, taking away our first amendment rights. There are also complete IDIOTS in congress attempting to push through strict regulations that take away most of our 2nd amendment rights as well....

Kinda sad when you think about it. 1st, 2nd, 4th, and 5th amendments in our BILL OF RIGHTS, are under attack....grumble

Not saying Obama is bad, but i have yet to see "Change" in Washington...

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Mon 05/11/09 08:47 AM







if a republican president is elected the next term....then the other side will be doing the same thing. the roles will be flipped. it's hypocritical. I couldn't vote this last election (not that I wanted any of them any way.) But regardless if who I vote for is in office or not...I don't want them to fail because our country would fail....but I will call out things i don't like...regardless of which party is in office


Not necessarily. When Bush first started being President, I had no problem with him. When he started going downhill, I did.


but others did just because he wasn't their choice....and others will again when their choice isn't elected. those people are the ones i find hypocritical



Well yeah, that's the way it's always been, and always will be, I mean when I was in the military, I watched Bush **** things up slowly, Starting with the patriot act, then that prison in Cuba, I mean he was ripping our constitution to shreds. But with Obama, my main problem is that, He was out there being buddy buddy with everyone going "Yeah i'm sorry America ****ed up!" which in ridicilous, even if we did mess up... Because of the fact we are America, We are considered the bully of the world, YOu don't go around going "Whoops, I know we ****ed up ok we'll become socialist, *WHICH BYE THE WAY HAS FAILED THROUGHOUT HISTORY EVERY SINGLE TIME IT HAS BEEN INTRODUCED" GO read about the current situations in England and France atm, THAT IS WHERE WE ARE HEADING IF WE CONTINUE THIS ROAD.


We will not ever be socialist in this country. I think a salting of socialist type programs is all we will ever see. If you truly believe that then you do not believe in the premise this country was based on.
flowerforyou America has been capitalist/socialist for many many decades and that seems to be the system that works the best, because pure capitalism sure as hell dont work either.flowerforyou


True capitalism is cruel and inhumane that is why the socialist programs are there for those times when capitalism doesn't apply.

Nothing wrong with that.

I still think the founding fathers would be happy with what we have done over all these many many years with their blueprint.:wink: bigsmile :thumbsup:


Mirror, and Dragoness,

Care to elaborate on how you think true capitalism doesn't work?

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Mon 05/11/09 08:52 AM



Btw, it's not the time for a revolution. We should, instead, be working together to make life easier for each other - helping each other.
That is fine and dandy in a bowl of flowers, but in order for this to happen, one must find agreement with others first before that can be actualized. No matter what, there will, and ever will be infighting between people about who shall be the leader to create a society for all of us who can benefit and prosper together. And I don't think that can happen with the existing system that regulate the masses into fighting themselves instead of empowering them to actually make the decision without through the traditional system that had already taken place.


It's not the time for a revolution.


Oh but i think it is. I don't mean the march down to washington with guns revolution. If people came together, and simply helped their neighbors out, formed their own chairties, and stopped paying intomce tax, and started reading up on history, i think that would be enough. Problem is we all want our nanny state to take care of us. We shouldn't be relying on the government period. We should take it upon ourselves to help ourselves, and eachother.

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