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Topic: Sold out by the president of the United States
TJN Joined Sun 12/02/07 Posts: 6745	Sat 05/02/09 08:16 PM
"We have been sold out by the president of the United States and his so-called car czar," said Kenosha, WI Ald. Patrick Juliana. "It should have been up to them to make sure that every United States autoworker had a shot at keeping their job." John Drew, former union leader in Kenosha, vowed that the United Auto Workers would fight to reverse the decision. "We're outraged that they would be planning to close the plant in Kenosha at the same time that they're opening a plant in Mexico to build the engine that was promised to Kenosha," he said. http://www.jsonline.com/business/44162607.html Now I'm just wondering with the stimulas and the bail out of the auto company one would think that they would be in good shape. I keep seeing in the news our president saying the stimulas would save or create 3 to 4 million jobs. And with the bail out only the government can save the auto companies. Tell that to the 800 in Kenosha, WI that will loose their jobs to a plant in Mexico.

Dragoness Joined Wed 10/17/07 Posts: 23320	Sat 05/02/09 08:20 PM
"We have been sold out by the president of the United States and his so-called car czar," said Kenosha, WI Ald. Patrick Juliana. "It should have been up to them to make sure that every United States autoworker had a shot at keeping their job." John Drew, former union leader in Kenosha, vowed that the United Auto Workers would fight to reverse the decision. "We're outraged that they would be planning to close the plant in Kenosha at the same time that they're opening a plant in Mexico to build the engine that was promised to Kenosha," he said. http://www.jsonline.com/business/44162607.html Now I'm just wondering with the stimulas and the bail out of the auto company one would think that they would be in good shape. I keep seeing in the news our president saying the stimulas would save or create 3 to 4 million jobs. And with the bail out only the government can save the auto companies. Tell that to the 800 in Kenosha, WI that will loose their jobs to a plant in Mexico. And how did Obama sell us out? My understanding is that the reorganization of these organizations is not directly under Obama's control.

willing2 Joined Sun 06/08/08 Posts: 20221	Sat 05/02/09 08:21 PM
Sorry about that. What kind of termination plan will you get?

TJN Joined Sun 12/02/07 Posts: 6745	Sat 05/02/09 08:22 PM
"We have been sold out by the president of the United States and his so-called car czar," said Kenosha, WI Ald. Patrick Juliana. "It should have been up to them to make sure that every United States autoworker had a shot at keeping their job." John Drew, former union leader in Kenosha, vowed that the United Auto Workers would fight to reverse the decision. "We're outraged that they would be planning to close the plant in Kenosha at the same time that they're opening a plant in Mexico to build the engine that was promised to Kenosha," he said. http://www.jsonline.com/business/44162607.html Now I'm just wondering with the stimulas and the bail out of the auto company one would think that they would be in good shape. I keep seeing in the news our president saying the stimulas would save or create 3 to 4 million jobs. And with the bail out only the government can save the auto companies. Tell that to the 800 in Kenosha, WI that will loose their jobs to a plant in Mexico. And how did Obama sell us out? My understanding is that the reorganization of these organizations is not directly under Obama's control. try reading the article.

deandre3000 Joined Fri 03/20/09 Posts: 4	Sat 05/02/09 08:22 PM
What did you expect, the government is like King Midas except whatever it touches turns into crap instead of gold.

TJN Joined Sun 12/02/07 Posts: 6745	Sat 05/02/09 08:23 PM
Sorry about that. What kind of termination plan will you get? Oh I dont work there its just in my area and I find it outragous that this would happen.

TJN Joined Sun 12/02/07 Posts: 6745	Sat 05/02/09 08:24 PM
What did you expect, the government is like King Midas except whatever it touches turns into crap instead of gold.

willing2 Joined Sun 06/08/08 Posts: 20221	Sat 05/02/09 08:24 PM
What did you expect, the government is like King Midas except whatever it touches turns into crap instead of gold. You're right. It wouldn't have mattered who was elected, they all have to do as the puppet master says.

Dragoness Joined Wed 10/17/07 Posts: 23320	Sat 05/02/09 08:25 PM
"We have been sold out by the president of the United States and his so-called car czar," said Kenosha, WI Ald. Patrick Juliana. "It should have been up to them to make sure that every United States autoworker had a shot at keeping their job." John Drew, former union leader in Kenosha, vowed that the United Auto Workers would fight to reverse the decision. "We're outraged that they would be planning to close the plant in Kenosha at the same time that they're opening a plant in Mexico to build the engine that was promised to Kenosha," he said. http://www.jsonline.com/business/44162607.html Now I'm just wondering with the stimulas and the bail out of the auto company one would think that they would be in good shape. I keep seeing in the news our president saying the stimulas would save or create 3 to 4 million jobs. And with the bail out only the government can save the auto companies. Tell that to the 800 in Kenosha, WI that will loose their jobs to a plant in Mexico. And how did Obama sell us out? My understanding is that the reorganization of these organizations is not directly under Obama's control. try reading the article. I did and the reorganization is still not under Obama's control. He ordered the reorganization but is not over seeing it.

MirrorMirror Joined Fri 10/26/07 Posts: 89680	Sat 05/02/09 08:27 PM
"We have been sold out by the president of the United States and his so-called car czar," said Kenosha, WI Ald. Patrick Juliana. "It should have been up to them to make sure that every United States autoworker had a shot at keeping their job." John Drew, former union leader in Kenosha, vowed that the United Auto Workers would fight to reverse the decision. "We're outraged that they would be planning to close the plant in Kenosha at the same time that they're opening a plant in Mexico to build the engine that was promised to Kenosha," he said. http://www.jsonline.com/business/44162607.html Now I'm just wondering with the stimulas and the bail out of the auto company one would think that they would be in good shape. I keep seeing in the news our president saying the stimulas would save or create 3 to 4 million jobs. And with the bail out only the government can save the auto companies. Tell that to the 800 in Kenosha, WI that will loose their jobs to a plant in Mexico. And how did Obama sell us out? My understanding is that the reorganization of these organizations is not directly under Obama's control. try reading the article. I did and the reorganization is still not under Obama's control. He ordered the reorganization but is not over seeing it. You always do your homework

yellowrose10 Joined Tue 12/11/07 Posts: 52804	Sat 05/02/09 08:28 PM


TJN Joined Sun 12/02/07 Posts: 6745	Sat 05/02/09 08:30 PM Edited by TJN on Sat 05/02/09 08:32 PM
"We have been sold out by the president of the United States and his so-called car czar," said Kenosha, WI Ald. Patrick Juliana. "It should have been up to them to make sure that every United States autoworker had a shot at keeping their job." John Drew, former union leader in Kenosha, vowed that the United Auto Workers would fight to reverse the decision. "We're outraged that they would be planning to close the plant in Kenosha at the same time that they're opening a plant in Mexico to build the engine that was promised to Kenosha," he said. http://www.jsonline.com/business/44162607.html Now I'm just wondering with the stimulas and the bail out of the auto company one would think that they would be in good shape. I keep seeing in the news our president saying the stimulas would save or create 3 to 4 million jobs. And with the bail out only the government can save the auto companies. Tell that to the 800 in Kenosha, WI that will loose their jobs to a plant in Mexico. And how did Obama sell us out? My understanding is that the reorganization of these organizations is not directly under Obama's control. try reading the article. I did and the reorganization is still not under Obama's control. He ordered the reorganization but is not over seeing it. So its ok that he said only the government can save the car companies, yet with the stimulas and the bail out they are still failing. That doesnt say much for how BHO is running the country. And I find it funny that every thing under the Bush admin was Bush's fault. But I see the double standard he isnt overseeing it so it's not his fault. Where does it end?

HappyFella Joined Wed 04/22/09 Posts: 34	Sat 05/02/09 08:31 PM
What I find interesting is how the government is all about involvement these days. And intervention. When was there this sudden shift in the US away from the capalist principles to a more socialist view? Or has it always been there just waiting for the right figure-head

TJN Joined Sun 12/02/07 Posts: 6745	Sat 05/02/09 08:33 PM
What I find interesting is how the government is all about involvement these days. And intervention. When was there this sudden shift in the US away from the capalist principles to a more socialist view? Or has it always been there just waiting for the right figure-head That started Jan 20th 2009

Dragoness Joined Wed 10/17/07 Posts: 23320	Sat 05/02/09 08:33 PM
"We have been sold out by the president of the United States and his so-called car czar," said Kenosha, WI Ald. Patrick Juliana. "It should have been up to them to make sure that every United States autoworker had a shot at keeping their job." John Drew, former union leader in Kenosha, vowed that the United Auto Workers would fight to reverse the decision. "We're outraged that they would be planning to close the plant in Kenosha at the same time that they're opening a plant in Mexico to build the engine that was promised to Kenosha," he said. http://www.jsonline.com/business/44162607.html Now I'm just wondering with the stimulas and the bail out of the auto company one would think that they would be in good shape. I keep seeing in the news our president saying the stimulas would save or create 3 to 4 million jobs. And with the bail out only the government can save the auto companies. Tell that to the 800 in Kenosha, WI that will loose their jobs to a plant in Mexico. And how did Obama sell us out? My understanding is that the reorganization of these organizations is not directly under Obama's control. try reading the article. I did and the reorganization is still not under Obama's control. He ordered the reorganization but is not over seeing it. So its ok that he said only the government can save the car companies, yet with the stimulas and the bail out they are still failing. That doesnt say much for how BHO is running the country. And I find it funny that every thing under the Bush admin was Bush's fault. But I see the double standard he isnt overseeing it so iy's not his fault. Where does it end? So this relates to how he is running the country?? I'm sorry but Bush was a train wreck in action so the comparison is really not valid.

DaveyB Joined Wed 10/10/07 Posts: 18786	Sat 05/02/09 08:35 PM
"We have been sold out by the president of the United States and his so-called car czar," said Kenosha, WI Ald. Patrick Juliana. "It should have been up to them to make sure that every United States autoworker had a shot at keeping their job." John Drew, former union leader in Kenosha, vowed that the United Auto Workers would fight to reverse the decision. "We're outraged that they would be planning to close the plant in Kenosha at the same time that they're opening a plant in Mexico to build the engine that was promised to Kenosha," he said. http://www.jsonline.com/business/44162607.html Now I'm just wondering with the stimulas and the bail out of the auto company one would think that they would be in good shape. I keep seeing in the news our president saying the stimulas would save or create 3 to 4 million jobs. And with the bail out only the government can save the auto companies. Tell that to the 800 in Kenosha, WI that will loose their jobs to a plant in Mexico. And how did Obama sell us out? My understanding is that the reorganization of these organizations is not directly under Obama's control. try reading the article. I did and the reorganization is still not under Obama's control. He ordered the reorganization but is not over seeing it. So its ok that he said only the government can save the car companies, yet with the stimulas and the bail out they are still failing. That doesnt say much for how BHO is running the country. And I find it funny that every thing under the Bush admin was Bush's fault. But I see the double standard he isnt overseeing it so it's not his fault. Where does it end? I am among those who blame Bush for all those things that happened under him. I also blame Obama for the stuff happening under him now. So far he hasn't handled any of the bail out money worth a damn, and if it doesn't start happening right soon we're all going down the cr@pper.

willing2 Joined Sun 06/08/08 Posts: 20221	Sat 05/02/09 08:36 PM
What I find interesting is how the government is all about involvement these days. And intervention. When was there this sudden shift in the US away from the capalist principles to a more socialist view? Or has it always been there just waiting for the right figure-head On th' money! MSM got him voted in because of his popularity. With that, he is able to gain lots of ground. It's looking like some of the intent is, Gov. holding shares in major Corps and banks.

yellowrose10 Joined Tue 12/11/07 Posts: 52804	Sat 05/02/09 08:36 PM
if BHO ordered the reorganization...it would still be under his control even if he named someone to look after it

TJN Joined Sun 12/02/07 Posts: 6745	Sat 05/02/09 08:36 PM
"We have been sold out by the president of the United States and his so-called car czar," said Kenosha, WI Ald. Patrick Juliana. "It should have been up to them to make sure that every United States autoworker had a shot at keeping their job." John Drew, former union leader in Kenosha, vowed that the United Auto Workers would fight to reverse the decision. "We're outraged that they would be planning to close the plant in Kenosha at the same time that they're opening a plant in Mexico to build the engine that was promised to Kenosha," he said. http://www.jsonline.com/business/44162607.html Now I'm just wondering with the stimulas and the bail out of the auto company one would think that they would be in good shape. I keep seeing in the news our president saying the stimulas would save or create 3 to 4 million jobs. And with the bail out only the government can save the auto companies. Tell that to the 800 in Kenosha, WI that will loose their jobs to a plant in Mexico. And how did Obama sell us out? My understanding is that the reorganization of these organizations is not directly under Obama's control. try reading the article. I did and the reorganization is still not under Obama's control. He ordered the reorganization but is not over seeing it. So its ok that he said only the government can save the car companies, yet with the stimulas and the bail out they are still failing. That doesnt say much for how BHO is running the country. And I find it funny that every thing under the Bush admin was Bush's fault. But I see the double standard he isnt overseeing it so iy's not his fault. Where does it end? So this relates to how he is running the country?? I'm sorry but Bush was a train wreck in action so the comparison is really not valid. Yes it relates to how he is running the country. Did he not appoint the car-zar? Did he not say only the government can save the car companies? If this is a start for how things to come will be then we are in for a world of hurt.

DaveyB Joined Wed 10/10/07 Posts: 18786	Sat 05/02/09 08:40 PM
"We have been sold out by the president of the United States and his so-called car czar," said Kenosha, WI Ald. Patrick Juliana. "It should have been up to them to make sure that every United States autoworker had a shot at keeping their job." John Drew, former union leader in Kenosha, vowed that the United Auto Workers would fight to reverse the decision. "We're outraged that they would be planning to close the plant in Kenosha at the same time that they're opening a plant in Mexico to build the engine that was promised to Kenosha," he said. http://www.jsonline.com/business/44162607.html Now I'm just wondering with the stimulas and the bail out of the auto company one would think that they would be in good shape. I keep seeing in the news our president saying the stimulas would save or create 3 to 4 million jobs. And with the bail out only the government can save the auto companies. Tell that to the 800 in Kenosha, WI that will loose their jobs to a plant in Mexico. And how did Obama sell us out? My understanding is that the reorganization of these organizations is not directly under Obama's control. try reading the article. I did and the reorganization is still not under Obama's control. He ordered the reorganization but is not over seeing it. So its ok that he said only the government can save the car companies, yet with the stimulas and the bail out they are still failing. That doesnt say much for how BHO is running the country. And I find it funny that every thing under the Bush admin was Bush's fault. But I see the double standard he isnt overseeing it so iy's not his fault. Where does it end? So this relates to how he is running the country?? I'm sorry but Bush was a train wreck in action so the comparison is really not valid. Until BHO proves himself to be less of a train wreck the comparison is completely valid