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 no...this is thorn...the evil twin
let's see...where to start where to start oh brb |
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no...this is thorn...the evil twin
let's see...where to start where to start oh brb Im going to put my eye on you! |
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your eye sure beats that leotard
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your eye sure beats that leotard
wait,,,
That's not funny. |
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Edited by
InvictusV
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Fri 05/01/09 07:24 PM
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If???? Did you see this invictus? Two psychologists are responsible for designing the CIA's program of waterboarding suspected terrorists and for assuring the government the program was safe, according to an ABC News report. Former military officers Bruce Jessen and Jim Mitchell had an "important role in developing what became the CIA's torture program," Jameel Jaffer, an attorney with the ACLU, told ABC News. Jessen and Mitchell were previously involved in the U.S. military program to train pilots how to resist brutal tactics if captured -- but Col. Steven Kleinman, an Air Force interrogator, told ABC News that the two never had experience conducting actual interrogations before the CIA hired them. "They went to two individuals who had no interrogation experience," Col. Kleinman told ABC News. I saw it. Im trying to find out more about these guys. Associates say Jessen and Mitchell were paid up to $1,000 a day by the CIA to oversee the techniques used against high-profile detainees to extract information in the aftermath of the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks on New York City and the Pentagon. The revelation comes as Congressional Democrats turn up the pressure on the Obama administration to appoint a special counsel to start a criminal investigation into harsh interrogations of terror suspects and who authorized them. The debate was sparked by the Obama administration this month releasing four Bush-era memos outlining legal guidelines for the CIA's interrogation methods. Obama has said it would be up to Attorney General Eric Holder to determine whether "those who formulated those legal decisions" should be prosecuted. The methods, described in the Bush-era memos, included slamming detainees against walls and subjecting them to simulated drowning, known as waterboarding. The president said he would not seek to punish CIA officers and others who carried out interrogations http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/04/30/report-psychologists-responsible-devising-cia-torture-program/ I saw it. Im trying to find out more about these guys. |
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 let me get this straight (pacing back and forth while thinking here)...The president said he would not seek to punish CIA officers and others who carried out interrogations....hmmmm and why would that be???? what does this say about him???
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let me get this straight (pacing back and forth while thinking here)...The president said he would not seek to punish CIA officers and others who carried out interrogations....hmmmm and why would that be???? what does this say about him???
It says, "Im not a lawyer, that is up to my AG to decide." I can think of a hundred reasons why he would not get too involved in an investigation. He declassified the info, now its in others hands. Im just hoping he doesnt get in their way! |
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He is a lawyer and Holder works for him. If he wants Holder to prosecute, and it goes bad, he will have to answer for it someday.
Isn't that a pandoras box? If a Republican ever gets elected again, and Obama is deemed to have gone after Bush based on political expediency, it could come back to bite him on the a$$. If he opens the door, who knows where it might lead. |
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He is a lawyer and Holder works for him. If he wants Holder to prosecute, and it goes bad, he will have to answer for it someday. Isn't that a pandoras box? If a Republican ever gets elected again, and Obama is deemed to have gone after Bush based on political expediency, it could come back to bite him on the a$$. If he opens the door, who knows where it might lead. now there is the catch right??? if someone didn't have anything to worry about and did what is right then.... but instead of saying what he did...he could have said something like i hope those involved are given a fair trial and brought to justice...or something of that nature |
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your eye sure beats that leotard
wait,,,
That's not funny. BTW 
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He is a lawyer and Holder works for him. If he wants Holder to prosecute, and it goes bad, he will have to answer for it someday. Isn't that a pandoras box? If a Republican ever gets elected again, and Obama is deemed to have gone after Bush based on political expediency, it could come back to bite him on the a$$. If he opens the door, who knows where it might lead. LOL He is a lawyer, LOL Dont forget Kennedy or MLK!!!! You know the rumors about the CIA! 
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He is a lawyer and Holder works for him. If he wants Holder to prosecute, and it goes bad, he will have to answer for it someday. Isn't that a pandoras box? If a Republican ever gets elected again, and Obama is deemed to have gone after Bush based on political expediency, it could come back to bite him on the a$$. If he opens the door, who knows where it might lead. LOL He is a lawyer, LOL Dont forget Kennedy or MLK!!!! You know the rumors about the CIA!
The most competent of incompetents. |
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now how could BHO get in the way???
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now how could BHO get in the way??? Renege on his promise of transparency in gov and go back to hiding it like The Bush Admin did! |
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Obama may revive Guantanamo military courts
Source: System once branded a 'failure' by president could be reinstated By William Glaberson updated 6:14 a.m. ET, Sat., May 2, 2009 The Obama administration is moving toward reviving the military commission system for prosecuting Guantánamo detainees, which was a target of critics during the Bush administration, including Mr. Obama himself. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30531510/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- wonder how much will be made of this but it is dif it is obama it has to right interesting very interesting but not very surprising |
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Obama may revive Guantanamo military courts Source: System once branded a 'failure' by president could be reinstated By William Glaberson updated 6:14 a.m. ET, Sat., May 2, 2009 The Obama administration is moving toward reviving the military commission system for prosecuting Guantánamo detainees, which was a target of critics during the Bush administration, including Mr. Obama himself. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30531510/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- wonder how much will be made of this but it is dif it is obama it has to right interesting very interesting but not very surprising Not much considering it wont be the same! As the next paragraph informs, ......Bush administration, including Mr. Obama himself. Officials said the first public moves could come as soon as next week, perhaps in filings to military judges at the United States naval base at Guantánamo Bay, Cuba, outlining an administration plan to amend the Bush administration’s system to provide more legal protections for terrorism suspects. |
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Edited by
adj4u
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Sat 05/02/09 02:10 PM
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and a lil further down in the article
-------------- Shifting mood But in recent days a variety of officials involved in the deliberations say that after administration lawyers examined many of the cases, the mood shifted toward using military commissions to prosecute some detainees,........ administration officials said Friday that some detainees would be prosecuted in federal courts and noted that Mr. Obama had always left open the possibility of using military commissions. Still, during the presidential campaign Mr. Obama criticized the commissions, saying that “by any measure our system of trying detainees has been an enormous failure,” and declaring that as president he would “reject the Military Commissions Act.” ---------------- still looks like he is just saying what people want to hear to me i am neither condemning nor condoning just saying and providing info |
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You skip right over this though.
outlining an administration plan to amend the Bush administration’s system to provide more legal protections for terrorism suspects. Meaning the trials will not be run by the Bush rules. They will be fair this time and speedy! The idea is to sort through the group as fast and fairly as possible. Wean out the menacing from the innocent and clear Gitmo for closure. End its use as a torture camp! Clean up the Bush embarrassment! |
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You skip right over this though. outlining an administration plan to amend the Bush administration’s system to provide more legal protections for terrorism suspects. Meaning the trials will not be run by the Bush rules. They will be fair this time and speedy! The idea is to sort through the group as fast and fairly as possible. Wean out the menacing from the innocent and clear Gitmo for closure. End its use as a torture camp! Clean up the Bush embarrassment! hope you are right 
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Yep. Prosecute. Later, that will hopefully allow us to prosecute the current gang. |
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