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if you are incapable or unwilling to "fact check" it does not matter .... show where you got your facts and i will check be well i will no longer debate (check that no fact to back your claim removes it from debate format) this with you |
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So, not wanting to hijack the other thread (and not even sure if this was mentioned there)... Does anyone realize the implications of the "revised" Chrysler that the government is hoping to develop through Chapter 11? I'll give you the only line that matters: 55% ownership by the UAW. That line right there is why the company will NEVER again be largely profitable. The workers for the company run the company. They set the pay, the benefits, the executive salary and bonuses. They will run the company into the ground. While a lot of that sound like a good system, just try to get someone into the CEO position that is worthwhile when they can be ousted just for not supporting union demands. This is by far one of the stupidest things I've ever heard in my life. I seriously hope Fiat bails. There is no potential in here anymore. will NEVER again be largely profitable. why is this a bad thing (if it comes to be) after all how profitable is it now ---------- besides if the uaw has major share and sees first hand that the union demands are over reaching and hurting the company maybe it will be less demanding after all union members do not own the union they merely are members(workers) for/of the union |
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it is a bad thing if the taxpayers share in that ownership (8%)
So, not wanting to hijack the other thread (and not even sure if this was mentioned there)... Does anyone realize the implications of the "revised" Chrysler that the government is hoping to develop through Chapter 11? I'll give you the only line that matters: 55% ownership by the UAW. That line right there is why the company will NEVER again be largely profitable. The workers for the company run the company. They set the pay, the benefits, the executive salary and bonuses. They will run the company into the ground. While a lot of that sound like a good system, just try to get someone into the CEO position that is worthwhile when they can be ousted just for not supporting union demands. This is by far one of the stupidest things I've ever heard in my life. I seriously hope Fiat bails. There is no potential in here anymore. will NEVER again be largely profitable. why is this a bad thing (if it comes to be) after all how profitable is it now ---------- besides if the uaw has major share and sees first hand that the union demands are over reaching and hurting the company maybe it will be less demanding after all union members do not own the union they merely are members(workers) for/of the union |
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Edited by
willing2
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Fri 05/01/09 07:52 AM
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The last I heard about Chrysler is, the Stockholders have taken control and they will decide the future of the Corp.
If the workers and CEOs really wanted to save their jobs, they might think about taking a wage cut. |
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Edited by
Winx
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Fri 05/01/09 10:34 AM
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The last I heard about Chrysler is, the Stockholders have taken control and they will decide the future of the Corp. If the workers and CEOs really wanted to save their jobs, they might think about taking a wage cut. Here's what's happening with the Chrsyler plant in St. Louis. It has over 5,000 employees. http://www.ksdk.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=174136&catid=40 Fenton is in St. Louis County. |
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So, not wanting to hijack the other thread (and not even sure if this was mentioned there)... Does anyone realize the implications of the "revised" Chrysler that the government is hoping to develop through Chapter 11? I'll give you the only line that matters: 55% ownership by the UAW. That line right there is why the company will NEVER again be largely profitable. The workers for the company run the company. They set the pay, the benefits, the executive salary and bonuses. They will run the company into the ground. While a lot of that sound like a good system, just try to get someone into the CEO position that is worthwhile when they can be ousted just for not supporting union demands. This is by far one of the stupidest things I've ever heard in my life. I seriously hope Fiat bails. There is no potential in here anymore. Why are the workers not compitent to help lead their own company? Are all workers ignorant? Are all workers too greedy to make sound decisions? If all of this is true then no American is fit to contribute their imput into how this country is running, right? Ideally no, but a big part of the downfall of the American auto industry is the fault of the UAW. I'm not against unions, but sometimes they too can be become too greedy. BS! You've just been brainwashed by those intending to push globalization on Americans! How is $27 an hour to assemble parts with full benefits and a pension from day one not excessive? Please, enlighten me how those added costs have nothing to do with why GM and Chrysler are in the shape they are in now. |
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