Topic: A Race-Specific Virus?
Dragoness's photo
Thu 04/30/09 01:32 PM

I love it, I really do, whenever you ask some questions, that aren't apart of the mainstream popular Television idea of whats acceptable, you and your questions are sh!tcanned as "Nutcase Conspiracy Theories".

So it's just a wild coincidence that the CDC were combining flu types in 2004? It's just a wild coincidence that the Project for a New American Century in their document titled "Rebuilding America's defenses" Called for the creation and use of Genome specific bioweapons? Hey, you know what, they also called for a new pearl harbor and like magic, we got us some planes flown into buildings on 9/11.

H1N1 Flu (Swine Flu)
Swine Flu website last updated April 30, 2009, 10:30 AM ET

In response to an intensifying outbreak in the United States and internationally caused by a new influenza virus of swine origin, the World Health Organization raised the worldwide pandemic alert level to Phase 5 on April 29, 2009. A Phase 5 alert is a “strong signal that a pandemic is imminent and that the time to finalize the organization, communication, and implementation of the planned mitigation measures is short.”

The United States Government has declared a public health emergency in the United States. CDC’s response goals are to reduce transmission and illness severity, and provide information to help health care providers, public health officials and the public address the challenges posed by this emergency. CDC is issuing and updating interim guidance daily in response to the rapidly evolving situation. CDC’s Division of the Strategic National Stockpile (SNS) continues to send antiviral drugs, personal protective equipment, and respiratory protection devices to all 50 states and U.S. territories to help them respond to the outbreak. The swine influenza A (H1N1) virus is susceptible to the prescription antiviral drugs oseltamivir and zanamivir. In addition, the Federal Government and manufacturers have begun the process of developing a vaccine against this new virus.


U.S. Human Cases of H1N1 Flu Infection
(As of April 30, 2009, 10:30 AM ET) States # of laboratory confirmed cases Deaths
Arizona 1
California 14
Indiana 1
Kansas 2
Massachusetts 2
Michigan 1
Nevada 1
New York 50
Ohio 1
South Carolina 10
Texas 26 1
TOTAL COUNTS 109 cases 1 death
International Human Cases of Swine Flu Infection
See: World Health Organization


http://www.cdc.gov/swineflu/


Still only killing those spanish speaking folks, no deaths from the blacks or whites.

Finding a race specific chart on the CDC is proving to be missing, interestingly enough, I thought they would keep track of those kinds of things, for all of their fun and informative statistics charts you hear referenced all the time.


One hispanic person dies here and it is race specific? I am not sure how we get there???

warmachine's photo
Thu 04/30/09 01:45 PM


I love it, I really do, whenever you ask some questions, that aren't apart of the mainstream popular Television idea of whats acceptable, you and your questions are sh!tcanned as "Nutcase Conspiracy Theories".

So it's just a wild coincidence that the CDC were combining flu types in 2004? It's just a wild coincidence that the Project for a New American Century in their document titled "Rebuilding America's defenses" Called for the creation and use of Genome specific bioweapons? Hey, you know what, they also called for a new pearl harbor and like magic, we got us some planes flown into buildings on 9/11.

H1N1 Flu (Swine Flu)
Swine Flu website last updated April 30, 2009, 10:30 AM ET

In response to an intensifying outbreak in the United States and internationally caused by a new influenza virus of swine origin, the World Health Organization raised the worldwide pandemic alert level to Phase 5 on April 29, 2009. A Phase 5 alert is a “strong signal that a pandemic is imminent and that the time to finalize the organization, communication, and implementation of the planned mitigation measures is short.”

The United States Government has declared a public health emergency in the United States. CDC’s response goals are to reduce transmission and illness severity, and provide information to help health care providers, public health officials and the public address the challenges posed by this emergency. CDC is issuing and updating interim guidance daily in response to the rapidly evolving situation. CDC’s Division of the Strategic National Stockpile (SNS) continues to send antiviral drugs, personal protective equipment, and respiratory protection devices to all 50 states and U.S. territories to help them respond to the outbreak. The swine influenza A (H1N1) virus is susceptible to the prescription antiviral drugs oseltamivir and zanamivir. In addition, the Federal Government and manufacturers have begun the process of developing a vaccine against this new virus.


U.S. Human Cases of H1N1 Flu Infection
(As of April 30, 2009, 10:30 AM ET) States # of laboratory confirmed cases Deaths
Arizona 1
California 14
Indiana 1
Kansas 2
Massachusetts 2
Michigan 1
Nevada 1
New York 50
Ohio 1
South Carolina 10
Texas 26 1
TOTAL COUNTS 109 cases 1 death
International Human Cases of Swine Flu Infection
See: World Health Organization


http://www.cdc.gov/swineflu/


Still only killing those spanish speaking folks, no deaths from the blacks or whites.

Finding a race specific chart on the CDC is proving to be missing, interestingly enough, I thought they would keep track of those kinds of things, for all of their fun and informative statistics charts you hear referenced all the time.


One hispanic person dies here and it is race specific? I am not sure how we get there???


slaphead


No, thats not what was said. We have, what, a hundred cases here now? How many of them have fell out dead? Now, the real question is, how many of the Americans that are sick are hispanic? Better yet, why are all the deaths occuring in Mexico only?

Thats the point, it's only killing there, the death here was a person from Mexico, sick before coming to visit Brownsville.


Dragoness's photo
Thu 04/30/09 01:49 PM
Edited by Dragoness on Thu 04/30/09 01:49 PM



I love it, I really do, whenever you ask some questions, that aren't apart of the mainstream popular Television idea of whats acceptable, you and your questions are sh!tcanned as "Nutcase Conspiracy Theories".

So it's just a wild coincidence that the CDC were combining flu types in 2004? It's just a wild coincidence that the Project for a New American Century in their document titled "Rebuilding America's defenses" Called for the creation and use of Genome specific bioweapons? Hey, you know what, they also called for a new pearl harbor and like magic, we got us some planes flown into buildings on 9/11.

H1N1 Flu (Swine Flu)
Swine Flu website last updated April 30, 2009, 10:30 AM ET

In response to an intensifying outbreak in the United States and internationally caused by a new influenza virus of swine origin, the World Health Organization raised the worldwide pandemic alert level to Phase 5 on April 29, 2009. A Phase 5 alert is a “strong signal that a pandemic is imminent and that the time to finalize the organization, communication, and implementation of the planned mitigation measures is short.”

The United States Government has declared a public health emergency in the United States. CDC’s response goals are to reduce transmission and illness severity, and provide information to help health care providers, public health officials and the public address the challenges posed by this emergency. CDC is issuing and updating interim guidance daily in response to the rapidly evolving situation. CDC’s Division of the Strategic National Stockpile (SNS) continues to send antiviral drugs, personal protective equipment, and respiratory protection devices to all 50 states and U.S. territories to help them respond to the outbreak. The swine influenza A (H1N1) virus is susceptible to the prescription antiviral drugs oseltamivir and zanamivir. In addition, the Federal Government and manufacturers have begun the process of developing a vaccine against this new virus.


U.S. Human Cases of H1N1 Flu Infection
(As of April 30, 2009, 10:30 AM ET) States # of laboratory confirmed cases Deaths
Arizona 1
California 14
Indiana 1
Kansas 2
Massachusetts 2
Michigan 1
Nevada 1
New York 50
Ohio 1
South Carolina 10
Texas 26 1
TOTAL COUNTS 109 cases 1 death
International Human Cases of Swine Flu Infection
See: World Health Organization


http://www.cdc.gov/swineflu/


Still only killing those spanish speaking folks, no deaths from the blacks or whites.

Finding a race specific chart on the CDC is proving to be missing, interestingly enough, I thought they would keep track of those kinds of things, for all of their fun and informative statistics charts you hear referenced all the time.


One hispanic person dies here and it is race specific? I am not sure how we get there???


slaphead


No, thats not what was said. We have, what, a hundred cases here now? How many of them have fell out dead? Now, the real question is, how many of the Americans that are sick are hispanic? Better yet, why are all the deaths occuring in Mexico only?

Thats the point, it's only killing there, the death here was a person from Mexico, sick before coming to visit Brownsville.




Well I guess my next question would be, since other races live in Mexico besides just hispanics. Were all the deaths hispanic in Mexico?

Then after That I would have to ask. How available are flu and anti virals to the Mexican people?

Are the deaths income specific?

Are the deaths area specific?

There is alot of factors to consider before making the assumption that it is race specific, don't ya think?

warmachine's photo
Thu 04/30/09 02:39 PM
I go back to, we have our own dirty slums, we have our own sick people, why is it only killing in Mexico?

yellowrose10's photo
Thu 04/30/09 02:41 PM
i understand what war is getting at. true or not it's an interesting theory. not everyone in the US has health insurance for treatment

Fanta46's photo
Thu 04/30/09 03:54 PM
Edited by Fanta46 on Thu 04/30/09 03:58 PM


I bet Mexico wished they had an earmark to study Pig waste!


You really bet on that? Let us say they did have an earmark and studied the pig flu.

Would that prevent CIA from using our earmarks and creating a pandemic in Mexico resembling a swine flu?

The biggest evil was committed since acceptance of Income tax. This is no accident or coincidence.


NAaaaaaa,
Its a mentally conceived evil!
Fear!

As far as the earmark for the study of pig waste,
Go look at where this flu started and what conditions exist.

no photo
Thu 04/30/09 03:57 PM

I go back to, we have our own dirty slums, we have our own sick people, why is it only killing in Mexico?


percentages

it started in Mexico (or maybe China) but thousands have caught it in Mexico. only hundreds have caught it in America thus far

nogames39's photo
Thu 04/30/09 04:03 PM

NAaaaaaa,
Its a mentally conceived evil!
Fear!


Awareness of reality. A fear is living in denial of truth.

Fanta46's photo
Thu 04/30/09 04:03 PM
Edited by Fanta46 on Thu 04/30/09 04:14 PM



I bet Mexico wished they had an earmark to study Pig waste!


You really bet on that? Let us say they did have an earmark and studied the pig flu.

Would that prevent CIA from using our earmarks and creating a pandemic in Mexico resembling a swine flu?

The biggest evil was committed since acceptance of Income tax. This is no accident or coincidence.


NAaaaaaa,
Its a mentally conceived evil!
Fear!

As far as the earmark for the study of pig waste,
Go look at where this flu started and what conditions exist.


Watch the video,
Right here------>http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=7455756

nogames39's photo
Thu 04/30/09 04:09 PM
(NaturalNews) Perhaps due to the genetic makeup of the fast-spreading H1N1 strain of influenza -- which includes genetic elements from bird flu, swine flu and human flu spanning three continents -- there is considerable speculation that the origins of this virus are man-made.

It's not an unreasonable question to ask: Could world governments, spooked by the prospect of radical climate change caused by over-population of the planet, have assembled a super-secret task force to engineer and distribute a super virulent strain of influenza designed to "correct" the human population (and institute global Martial Law)?

Technically, it's possible. The U.S. military, all by itself, has the know-how to engineer and unleash such a virus. That doesn't mean they've done so, however. It would be an astonishing leap into crimes against humanity to intentionally unleash such a biological weapon into the wild.

Then again, governments of the world have routinely engaged in crimes against humanity, haven't they? The U.S., for example, dropped nuclear bombs on civilian populations in Japan. Israel rained white phosphorous on Palestinians, Hitler exterminated countless Jews, and Americans fired millions of rounds of depleted uranium rounds into targets in Iraq and Afghanistan. Unleashing a viral biological weapon in Mexico City is no great leap beyond what governments have already done to achieve their goals.

Throughout human history, virtually all the great crimes against humanity have been carried out by governments -- mostly in the name of peace, prosperity and security, by the way. So let's be clear about one thing: Governments are certainly capable of doing this if properly motivated. Let there be no question about that.

Is there any hard evidence of laboratory origins?
As of this moment, I have not personally seen any conclusive evidence of laboratory origins for this H1N1 swine flu. I am open to the possibility that new evidence may emerge in this direction, however, and I am suspicious of the genetic makeup of the virus as one possible indicator of its origins.

I am not a medical specialist in the area of infectious disease, but I have studied microbiology, genetics and a considerable amount of material on pandemics. What seems suspicious to me is the hybrid origin of the viral fragments found in H1N1 influenza. According to reports in the mainstream media (which has no reason to lie about this particular detail), this strain of influenza contains viral code fragments from:

• Human influenza
• Bird Flu from North America
• Swine flu from Europe
• Swine flu from Asia

This is rather astonishing to realize, because for this to have been a natural combination of viral fragments, it means an infected bird from North America would have had to infect pigs in Europe, then be re-infected by those some pigs with an unlikely cross-species mutation that allowed the bird to carry it again, then that bird would have had to fly to Asia and infected pigs there, and those Asian pigs then mutated the virus once again (while preserving the European swine and bird flu elements) to become human transmittable, and then a human would have had to catch that virus from the Asian pigs -- in Mexico! -- and spread it to others. (This isn't the only explanation of how it could have happened, but it is one scenario that gives you an idea of the complexity of such a thing happening).

JasmineInglewood's photo
Thu 04/30/09 04:15 PM


I go back to, we have our own dirty slums, we have our own sick people, why is it only killing in Mexico?


percentages

it started in Mexico (or maybe China) but thousands have caught it in Mexico. only hundreds have caught it in America thus far


but that would make sense. that can't be true.

slaphead

Fanta46's photo
Thu 04/30/09 04:16 PM
Edited by Fanta46 on Thu 04/30/09 04:17 PM



I bet Mexico wished they had an earmark to study Pig waste!


You really bet on that? Let us say they did have an earmark and studied the pig flu.

Would that prevent CIA from using our earmarks and creating a pandemic in Mexico resembling a swine flu?

The biggest evil was committed since acceptance of Income tax. This is no accident or coincidence.


NAaaaaaa,
Its a mentally conceived evil!
Fear!

As far as the earmark for the study of pig waste,
Go look at where this flu started and what conditions exist.


Watch the video,
Right here------>http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=7455756

That one, "Swine Flu Outbreak: The facts!"

Fanta46's photo
Thu 04/30/09 04:21 PM
When you watch the video think about all the stink everyone raised over the recent earmark to study what to do about Pig waste!


http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=7455756

Winx's photo
Thu 04/30/09 04:34 PM

When you watch the video think about all the stink everyone raised over the recent earmark to study what to do about Pig waste!


http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=7455756


I thought you would like that video.:wink: It sure says it all, doesn't it?

no photo
Thu 04/30/09 04:47 PM
What would be the point of developing a weapon to kill Mexicans?

I could understand someone targeting Whites, or Arabs, or Chinese, since these are the major world conflicts now and for the near future.


Fanta46's photo
Thu 04/30/09 04:53 PM

What would be the point of developing a weapon to kill Mexicans?

I could understand someone targeting Whites, or Arabs, or Chinese, since these are the major world conflicts now and for the near future.




Name one major development in the world and I'll show you three conspiracy theories!

Usually perpetuated by the same groups of people.

Fanta46's photo
Thu 04/30/09 04:55 PM


When you watch the video think about all the stink everyone raised over the recent earmark to study what to do about Pig waste!


http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=7455756


I thought you would like that video.:wink: It sure says it all, doesn't it?



You'll never get anyone to watch it though!
To get anyone to admit they were wrong about the earmark being wasteful spending is even more improbable!

DaveyB's photo
Thu 04/30/09 05:22 PM

Indonesia floats idea of man-made swine flu

Press TV
Wednesday, April 29, 2009

As swine flu continues to take its toll, claims surface that the deadly four-part flu virus could have been created for “bio-terror attacks.”

Speaking at a conference to reassure the public over hers government’s response to the swine flu threat, Indonesian Heath Minister Siti Fadilah Supari said Tuesday that the controversial virus could have been man-made.

She declined to elaborate on her claim but she had previously accused Western governments of making and spreading viruses in the developing world to boost pharmaceutical companies’ profits, AFP reported.



Having lived in Indonesia for a brief while when I was a kid I think it important that people know that the Indonesian government, media, and all human services are strictly controlled by the military. That military agenda includes a long history of blaming their problems on other countries particularly the US.

Fanta46's photo
Thu 04/30/09 05:29 PM


What would be the point of developing a weapon to kill Mexicans?

I could understand someone targeting Whites, or Arabs, or Chinese, since these are the major world conflicts now and for the near future.




Name one major development in the world and I'll show you three conspiracy theories!

Usually perpetuated by the same groups of people.

DaveyB's photo
Thu 04/30/09 05:37 PM


Well I guess my next question would be, since other races live in Mexico besides just hispanics. Were all the deaths hispanic in Mexico?

Then after That I would have to ask. How available are flu and anti virals to the Mexican people?

Are the deaths income specific?

Are the deaths area specific?

There is alot of factors to consider before making the assumption that it is race specific, don't ya think?


There are so many more issues than just those to consider. To my knowledge every American citizen has access to flu shots, generally for free and very low cost. Mexicans in the immediate area where it's believed to have started still, to the best of my knowledge, have not been vaccinated! Can you imagine that happening in the US? Another major factor is smoking in Mexico is far more common and they do have a problem smoking around kids not and that's not even considering the number of kids that smoke as well. Smoking is known to increase risks fr flu victims. The list goes on and on for other reasons why it's a bigger problem in Mexico and again we still can only compare nationalities not the race of people who have died. With 14 infections in Ca I can all but guarantee at least 3 or 4 we hispanic, yet only the one young child that had just come from Mexico died.

Again far too little evidence to point the problem at a race specific virus.