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sounds like this is getting worse by the hour Italy, Poland and Venezuela have advised their citizens to postpone travel to affected areas of Mexico and the United States. |
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Unlike other flu and swine flu viruses, this one seems to affect mature healthy adults between the ages of 25-55.
Most viruses attack the elderly or the very young. |
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Have there been any deaths from this in the US?
Last I heard there had not been. |
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Was just reading about a case of a 9 year old boy with a mild case of this in ohio after traveling to mexico.
Scares me as my kids are both already sick with colds/strep throat. I'm gonna preach hand washing for school this week big time! |
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no deaths anywhere but Mexico yet
there are something like 86 deaths there and something like 900 people have recovered from it okay that is one of the vectors that they dont understand yet, why it is killing people in Mexico but no where else |
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The news I saw from Mexico would indicate that it is widespread and far more cases exist than what is being reported.
Virus strains mutate. A strain that infects pigs, ducks, monkeys, or whatever for hundreds of years has a little change in its genetic makeup and all of a sudden it infects humans. It can also change so that the original strain that only was fatal in 1 percent of the human population mutates to be fatal in 20 percent of the human population. It looks like something like that might have happened in Mexico. It actually happens a lot. This is the reason antibiotics are having such trouble keeping up with the bugs. The bugs that genetically aren't affected by the antibiotic keep on multiplying to the degree that the new strain isn't much affected by antibiotics anymore. Virus strains mutate in a similar way but aren't affected by antibiotics. Antibiotics kill bacteria. Some Mexicans come across the border to get free medical care. |
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Was just reading about a case of a 9 year old boy with a mild case of this in ohio after traveling to mexico. Scares me as my kids are both already sick with colds/strep throat. I'm gonna preach hand washing for school this week big time! Kids are getting colds and strep throat this week in my area too. I'm preaching the hand washing at my house too. |
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Swine flu fears prompt quarantine plans, pork bans AP Say it isnt so  what will i do without my bacon
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The news says the estimated number of cases in Mexico is now over a thousand. They say it is a unique mutated strain of the virus. It appears to be more fatal that the older strain.
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Have there been any deaths from this in the US? Last I heard there had not been. Nope. No deaths here yet. |
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Here is the US update.
Swine Influenza (Flu) Swine Flu website last updated April 28, 2009 11:00 AM ET U.S. Human Cases of Swine Flu Infection (As of April 28, 2009 11:00 AM ET) State # of laboratory confirmed cases California 10 cases Kansas 2 cases New York City 45 cases Ohio 1 case Texas 6 cases TOTAL COUNT 64 cases International Human Cases of Swine Flu Infection See: World Health OrganizationExternal Web Site Policy. The human swine flu outbreak continues to grow in the United States and internationally. Today, CDC reports additional cases of confirmed swine influenza and a number of hospitalizations of swine flu patients. Internationally, the situation is more serious too, with additional countries reporting confirmed cases of swine flu. In response to the intensifying outbreak, the World Health Organization raised the worldwide pandemic alert level to Phase 4External Web Site Policy.. A Phase 4 alert is characterized by confirmed person-to-person spread of a new influenza virus able to cause “community-level” outbreaks.” The increase in the pandemic alert phase indicates that the likelihood of a pandemic has increased. CDC has activated its emergency operations center to coordinate the agency’s emergency response. CDC ’s goals are to reduce transmission and illness severity, and provide information to help health care providers, public health officials and the public address the challenges posed by this swine influenza virus. Yesterday, CDC issued a travel warning recommending that people avoid non-essential travel to Mexico. CDC continues to issue interim guidance daily on the website and through health alert network notices. CDC’s Division of the Strategic National Stockpile (SNS) is releasing one-quarter of its antiviral drugs, personal protective equipment, and respiratory protection devices to help states respond to the outbreak. The swine influenza A (H1N1) virus is susceptible to the prescription antiviral drugs oseltamivir and zanamivir. This is a rapidly evolving situation and CDC will provide updated guidance and new information as it becomes available. Keep in mind the above is the "laboratory confirmed cases". Many people with the flu don't report anything. |
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I thought maybe some of you might want an update from Mexico.
By NIKO PRICE, Associated Press Writer Niko Price, Associated Press Writer – Tue Apr 28, 12:05 am ET MEXICO CITY – Two weeks after the first known swine flu death, Mexico still hasn't given medicine to the families of the dead. It hasn't determined where the outbreak began or how it spread. And while the government urges anyone who feels sick to go to hospitals, feverish people complain ambulance workers are scared to pick them up. A portrait is emerging of a slow and confused response by Mexico to the gathering swine flu epidemic. And that could mean the world is flying blind into a global health storm. Despite an annual budget of more than $5 billion, Mexico's health secretary said Monday that his agency hasn't had the resources to visit the families of the dead. That means doctors haven't begun treatment for the population most exposed to swine flu, and most apt to spread it. It also means medical sleuths don't know how the victims were infected — key to understanding how the epidemic began and how it can be contained. Foreign health officials were hesitant Monday to speak critically about Mexico's response, saying they want to wait until more details emerge before passing judgment. But already, Mexicans were questioning the government's image of a country that has the crisis under control. "Nobody believes the government anymore," said Edgar Rocha, a 28-year-old office messenger. He said the lack of information is sowing distrust: "You haven't seen a single interview with the sick!" The political consequences could be serious. China was heavily criticized during the outbreak of SARS for failing to release details about the disease, feeding rumors and fear. And Mexico's failed response to a catastrophic 1985 earthquake is largely credited with the demise of the party that had ruled the country since the 1920s. "That is foremost in the minds of Mexican policymakers now," said George Grayson at the College of William & Mary in Virginia. "They're thinking, 'We don't want another '85.'" |
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Here is the US update. Swine Influenza (Flu) Swine Flu website last updated April 28, 2009 11:00 AM ET U.S. Human Cases of Swine Flu Infection (As of April 28, 2009 11:00 AM ET) State # of laboratory confirmed cases California 10 cases Kansas 2 cases New York City 45 cases Ohio 1 case Texas 6 cases TOTAL COUNT 64 cases International Human Cases of Swine Flu Infection See: World Health OrganizationExternal Web Site Policy. The human swine flu outbreak continues to grow in the United States and internationally. Today, CDC reports additional cases of confirmed swine influenza and a number of hospitalizations of swine flu patients. Internationally, the situation is more serious too, with additional countries reporting confirmed cases of swine flu. In response to the intensifying outbreak, the World Health Organization raised the worldwide pandemic alert level to Phase 4External Web Site Policy.. A Phase 4 alert is characterized by confirmed person-to-person spread of a new influenza virus able to cause “community-level” outbreaks.” The increase in the pandemic alert phase indicates that the likelihood of a pandemic has increased. CDC has activated its emergency operations center to coordinate the agency’s emergency response. CDC ’s goals are to reduce transmission and illness severity, and provide information to help health care providers, public health officials and the public address the challenges posed by this swine influenza virus. Yesterday, CDC issued a travel warning recommending that people avoid non-essential travel to Mexico. CDC continues to issue interim guidance daily on the website and through health alert network notices. CDC’s Division of the Strategic National Stockpile (SNS) is releasing one-quarter of its antiviral drugs, personal protective equipment, and respiratory protection devices to help states respond to the outbreak. The swine influenza A (H1N1) virus is susceptible to the prescription antiviral drugs oseltamivir and zanamivir. This is a rapidly evolving situation and CDC will provide updated guidance and new information as it becomes available. Keep in mind the above is the "laboratory confirmed cases". Many people with the flu don't report anything. looks like nyc needs all the bridges, tunnels, trains, and airports closed bummer |
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pig parts are used in human surgery (heart valves) and they are very close to us genetically. Naturally a virus can jump species. Look at how squalid a lot of Mexico is. They are ripe for disease pandemics. It is also prevalent in overpopulation situations. There are times mother nature gets the best of medical science.
the media is freaking out about something that has not actually become a real problem. If we were facing the Black Plague then I would be worried but this?  OMG! THE NEWS IS SO SCARY!!!  AS IF! We could do without a few million excess people.  Is this whole fear culture what makes the news so interesting?  Go Pig Bug! Swine Illage! Pork Pollution! How many acronyms can we come up with for this new epidemic?
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Itz one of the plagues of Revelation
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Itz one of the plagues of Revelation Maybe Mirror, but it really isn't that deadly... yet. One of the big fears is that one of these bugs will mutate in a way that the human can't cope with quite quick enough; too much fluid in the lungs to breath, something like that. If you combine a a highly contagious strain with a deadly strain, you have a crop thinner. This does not appear to fall into that category. One of the most graphic descriptions of a really deadly strain was in Stephen King's book "The Stand". It gave a very realistic description of what a "killer strain" could do. However, as was just noted, the probably of a deadly strain goes up with population density mostly purely because of increased opportunity for the bug. |
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I heard it started when the Mexican Army released a biological agent in its fight on the drug cartels...
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ooooooooo we've got 23 cases here now
that'll teach them to honeymoon in mehico 
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Swine flu fears prompt quarantine plans, pork bans AP Say it isnt so what will i do without my bacon  
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Itz one of the plagues of Revelation
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