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there can not be a single north american currancy till the value of the dollar (us and canadain) equal out with the peso
but hey what do i know |
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ok, as far as federal income tax..I was talking about. I get ya... 
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they are not saying where the money is going thus no it was not upheld The Bush Administration didnt but Obama is. They are only required to submit reports as noted in the bills quarterly I believe! Without reading into your words. Would you care to define who is aiding and comforting our enemies? The meaning of these words is akin to aiding and abetting a person commit a crime. Not talking with them in negotiations! it says aid and comfort if they know you will negotate with them then there are comfortable committing such acts (and maybe even encouraged to [as it may lead to an audience]) as to make them terrorists i am not saying they should or should not i am saying what the constitution says The Constitution does not mean for a President not to negotiate with foreign political leaders! Common sense and the ideas of a peaceful world without war dictate that a President do everything he can to avoid war! |
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Edited by
Drivinmenutz
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Tue 04/21/09 01:56 PM
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there can not be a single north american currancy till the value of the dollar (us and canadain) equal out with the peso but hey what do i know If they actually go that route, i might have to start training our militias... 
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they are not saying where the money is going thus no it was not upheld The Bush Administration didnt but Obama is. They are only required to submit reports as noted in the bills quarterly I believe! Without reading into your words. Would you care to define who is aiding and comforting our enemies? The meaning of these words is akin to aiding and abetting a person commit a crime. Not talking with them in negotiations! it says aid and comfort if they know you will negotate with them then there are comfortable committing such acts (and maybe even encouraged to [as it may lead to an audience]) as to make them terrorists i am not saying they should or should not i am saying what the constitution says The Constitution does not mean for a President not to negotiate with foreign political leaders! Common sense and the ideas of a peaceful world without war dictate that a President do everything he can to avoid war! Those who run around speaking half-truths and spreading conspiracy theories while paying to promote unrest among Americans are committing more treason than a President conducting foreign affairs through peaceful dialog any-day, anyway! |
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Edited by
adj4u
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Tue 04/21/09 01:43 PM
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there can not be a single north american currancy till the value of the dollar (us and canadain) equal out with the peso but hey what do i know If they make actually go that route, i might have to start training our militias... when does old disabled guy training start i know someone that may be interested |
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Edited by
Fanta46
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Tue 04/21/09 01:47 PM
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You have yet to show one legitimate example of a violation to the Constitution!
Just because of a personal dislike of legislation does not make it a violation! |
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It would have to be pretty bad for me to step in. But i would have to say, that if push came to shove and I was truely convinced that our government posed a physical threat to my family, i would side with the constitution, not the government. The likelyhood of that happening is almost nil. But if they declare martial law... Well, that's what us infantry men call METT (Mission, Equipment, Time, Terrain). I've got a list of old buddies that are war vets that would be right there with me. In fact, as stupid as it sounds, we have a basic plan to reunite, if times get bad. We made this plan when Bush was in office, partially due to his overriding the constitution (Patriot Act). But is was mostly in case we were invaded by a foreign enemy. We are all airborne infantry, and we all have combat experience. I side with the constitution when in doubt. This is my stance. This was my oath. This, to me, is worth dying for. Put my name on that list too. As well as most Marines (You're never an ex-Marine) I know. As proud and stringent as we are to superior order, The Constitution is our charter, what we risk and offer our lives for! Not about a generic leader or policy, EVER! |
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Edited by
Sojourning_Soul
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Tue 04/21/09 01:50 PM
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You have yet to show one legitimate example of a violation to the Constitution! Just because of a personal dislike of legislation does not make it a violation! How about the IRS authority and illegal strong arm tactics to enforce a law that Congress never apportioned? Our entire government is guilty of that fraud, by allowing it! |
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Edited by
Drivinmenutz
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You have yet to show one legitimate example of a violation to the Constitution! Just because of a personal dislike of legislation does not make it a violation! Only the patriot act. It still overrides the 4th and 5th amendments. That's all i know of under Obama. In fact he did change some of it, but i confess i didn't read the new legislation. They are pushing for a large gun ban (HR 45) and they are trying to pass the Fairness Doctrine, which inhibits our 1st amendment. Those aren't Obamas doing though. And they don't even count because they haven't passed. The Fed and federal reserve notes started long before him as well. Those do violate the constitution. Although i can understand why our money is FIAT money now. I did some reading... But we are using it to hurt us instead of help us.
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there can not be a single north american currancy till the value of the dollar (us and canadain) equal out with the peso but hey what do i know If they make actually go that route, i might have to start training our militias... when does old disabled guy training start i know someone that may be interested  5 mile wheel chair march this weekend!
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It would have to be pretty bad for me to step in. But i would have to say, that if push came to shove and I was truely convinced that our government posed a physical threat to my family, i would side with the constitution, not the government. The likelyhood of that happening is almost nil. But if they declare martial law... Well, that's what us infantry men call METT (Mission, Equipment, Time, Terrain). I've got a list of old buddies that are war vets that would be right there with me. In fact, as stupid as it sounds, we have a basic plan to reunite, if times get bad. We made this plan when Bush was in office, partially due to his overriding the constitution (Patriot Act). But is was mostly in case we were invaded by a foreign enemy. We are all airborne infantry, and we all have combat experience. I side with the constitution when in doubt. This is my stance. This was my oath. This, to me, is worth dying for. Put my name on that list too. As well as most Marines (You're never an ex-Marine) I know. As proud and stringent as we are to superior order, The Constitution is our charter, what we risk and offer our lives for! Not about a generic leader or policy, EVER!
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You have yet to show one legitimate example of a violation to the Constitution! Just because of a personal dislike of legislation does not make it a violation! How about the IRS authority and illegal strong arm tactics to enforce a law that Congress never apportioned? Our entire government is guilty of that fraud, by allowing it! The IRS is a legal institution of our Gov. This truth has been affirmed and proven in court many times! |
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A I read that list, I see many posters here that qualify. Even many of the Obama supporters.
Where do you fit? I have strong opinions about Illegal Immigration. I'm an ex-vet with PTSD I am opposed to NAFTA I am opposed to gun control and tracking of ammunition I have strong feelings about outsourcing to China and oppose Chinese investment in US properties |
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Edited by
Fanta46
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Tue 04/21/09 02:25 PM
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A North American Union would violate our sovereignty as guaranteed in the Constitution and I would be the first to draw my weapon from the Armory if this were to happen.
It hasnt however, and I dont see it happening in my lifetime. If it were to happen the so-called Militias in this country would not do without drastic consolidation. 85% of the civilians do not have the discipline it would take to train them, there is no money to rearm them, and the leadership does not exist to coordinate it all. Bush is gone gentlemen. There is no wolf hiding in the woods. Please return your weapons to the rest! |
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You have yet to show one legitimate example of a violation to the Constitution! Just because of a personal dislike of legislation does not make it a violation! Only the patriot act. It still overrides the 4th and 5th amendments. That's all i know of under Obama. In fact he did change some of it, but i confess i didn't read the new legislation. They are pushing for a large gun ban (HR 45) and they are trying to pass the Fairness Doctrine, which inhibits our 1st amendment. Those aren't Obamas doing though. And they don't even count because they haven't passed. The Fed and federal reserve notes started long before him as well. Those do violate the constitution. Although i can understand why our money is FIAT money now. I did some reading... But we are using it to hurt us instead of help us.
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A North American Union would violate our sovereignty as guaranteed in the Constitution and I would be the first to draw my weapon from the Armory if this were to happen. It hasnt however, and I dont see it happening in my lifetime. If it were to happen the so-called Militias in this country would not do without drastic consolidation. 85% of the civilians do not have the discipline it would take to train them, there is no money to rearm them, and the leadership does not exist to coordinate it all. Bush is gone gentlemen. There is no wolf hiding in the woods. Please return your weapons to the rest! Boy, this sounds a lot like NAU to me Starting my first year in office, I will convene annual meetings with Mr. Calderon and the prime minister of Canada. Unlike similar summits under President Bush, these will be conducted with a level of transparency that represents the close ties among our three countries. We will seek the active and open involvement of citizens, labor, the private sector and non-governmental organizations in setting the agenda and making progress. |
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