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Topic: Obama: no prosecution for waterboarders
scttrbrain's photo
Fri 04/17/09 04:48 PM
Edited by scttrbrain on Fri 04/17/09 04:51 PM
The documents were going to be released soon by court. They were suing to get them opened up, so Obama let them go to not have to go through a lawsuit to get them. I am not sure about trying anyone over what happened during another admin. It was a legal action during that time. Can you make a legalaity an illegality after the fact?

Kat

Dragoness's photo
Fri 04/17/09 04:54 PM


All torture should be illegal, we are not animals. We should be far more enlightened than to participate in torturous activities.

We are better than that.

And then to train men and women to participate in torture and set them lose on civilians when they are done with them is wrong too. Their psyche is twisted once they cross into this bizarre trade.


If you wish to see justice brought down on those guilty of the acts and those covering the acts up, visit the ACLU site and fill out the form.
https://secure.aclu.org/site/SPageServer?pagename=Nat_Petition_SpecialProsecutor


I want the policy makers to make sure that they do not make it legal now or ever again.

I do not believe in prosecuting the soldiers for what their government has done to them.

scttrbrain's photo
Fri 04/17/09 04:54 PM
Edited by scttrbrain on Fri 04/17/09 04:57 PM
Does anyone REALLY belive that this is the first time torture has been used in American war or history??? I mean....torture has been used many times in many wars. By Americans. Ever hear of the war between the Whites and Indians?? The white man showed them a few things...like scalping alive. Raping their women...burning them alive, killing their children. Not right then...not right now. Never...no more. Torture must go.
Kat

You are right...why should soldiers be made patsies for what they were told to do??

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Fri 04/17/09 04:58 PM
No, Kat, I have seen the horrors of war and we are just as guilty of them as all other nations.

We as humans should have grown in our mentality enough to understand there are no winners in war.

Abracadabra's photo
Fri 04/17/09 05:14 PM

If Obama wants to protect the guilty parties, he must have a hand in there some where or did someone show him th' money?


The guilty party was George Bush.

What point would there be in making criminals out of the men who were only doing what their Commander-in-Chief had told them to do? huh

The bottom line is that we have a new Commander-in-Chief now, and it wouldn't make much sense to try to prosecute the old one at this stage of the game. The damage has already been done. frown

Why try to make criminals out of military soldiers who were only doing what they were told to do by the previous administration?

What sense would that make?

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Fri 04/17/09 06:48 PM
Edited by Atlantis75 on Fri 04/17/09 06:49 PM



The guilty party was George Bush.



It wasn't George Bush alone..it was a gang of neoconservatives... if you ask me, Bush couldn't find his way out of a paperbox without Cheney give him a hand.

Abracadabra's photo
Sat 04/18/09 09:09 AM




The guilty party was George Bush.



It wasn't George Bush alone..it was a gang of neoconservatives... if you ask me, Bush couldn't find his way out of a paperbox without Cheney give him a hand.


Agreed.

None the less, it's the Commander-in-Chief who's responsible for keeping eveyone else in line. If he turns out to be the puppet of his subordinates that's only a reflection of how inept a Commander-in-Chief he was.

The bottom line was that Bush never attempted to persecute the waterboarders during his administration, so that can only mean that he condoned it.

Ultimately a Commander-in-Chief must either take responsiblty for his own hit men or denounce them LIVE when it happens as not being condoned by him.

In either case it would seem futile for the next administration to try to criminalize the activities of a previous administration.

About all Obama can realitisically do at this point is say, "no more". And just move foward from there.

But I agree, Cheney and others were probably pulling the bulk of the strings of the last administration. But Bush allowed that to happen. So where does the responsiblity ultimately lie?

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Sat 04/18/09 09:12 AM
The responsibility lies with the commander in chief.

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