This is a lie!

Its hard enough to believe a person would post a chain-e-mail on a dating site.
Its even harder to believe one would believe a chain-e-mail like this.
Its even harder to believe that a site would allow one to post chain-e-mails like this!

http://www.snopes.com/politics/taxes/pensions.asp

Posted: March 09, 2009
8:55 pm Eastern


By Drew Zahn
© 2009 WorldNetDaily



Millions of Americans, including national leaders, who rely on the popular online hoax-buster Snopes.com as the ultimate authority in separating truth from fiction, may be surprised to learn that behind the Wizard's curtain, is just a husband and wife doing research on their own.

In fact, Snopes, routinely cited by many as the final word on both frivolous and important stories, is not the well-staffed think tank of researchers, journalists and computer hacks one might expect – but rather, the work of David and Barbara Mikkelson, living in a Los Angeles suburb.

And though Snopes arguably deserves the popularity it has accrued over the years, many have come to regard the site as virtually infallible – which it definitely is not, say critics. Yet today, major news organizations such as the Associated Press and MSNBC cite Snopes as a definitive source for determining accuracy in suspicious stories. Six to 8 million viewers visit the site monthly. National Review Online calls Snopes "indispensable."

LOL

Nice try!

Should I post the links they used?
I did check them.

Not only is your post despicably BS, its old!

From Snopes,

http://www.senate.gov/reference/resources/pdf/RL30631.pdf

http://www.c-span.org/questions/weekly68.htm

http://www.ntu.org/main/page.php?PageID=21

Much better and more reliable sources than a chain-e-mail generated by who-knows-who in 2000!

According to the Library of Congress.....

Under both CSRS and FERS, Members of Congress are eligible for a pension at age 62 if they have completed at least five years of service. Members are eligible for a pension at age 50 if they have completed 20 years of service, or at any age after completing 25 years of service. The amount of the pension depends on years of
service and the average of the highest three years of salary. By law, the starting amount of a Member’s retirement annuity may not exceed 80% of his or her final salary.

Even if the post raises questions of its validity, 80% of my salary would still be better than what I have to look forward to at retirement.

They draw from 2 pension funds, both secure. We get SS and the loss of our pension plans and 401K's from the recession we find ourselves in today.

I always thought "the boss" got the better pension plan. They do work for us don't they?

i wrote my Rep in Congress about this issue be seeing you

It is a wise man who seeks the truth Prisoner.

My search continues.

Fanta, I seek no ill will. I read, I ask questions, I research. I do this because I wish to know a truth. I welcome your replies and input, it is all information we as individuals decide to agree or disagree with, and if we disagree we search further. This is a good thing.

I thank you for your replies.

Agreed it still looks better than the average citizens Social Security, but it isn't what your chain-e-mail claimed.

You should have posted something with some validity!
Your chain-e-mail is BS, and plays a conspiracy on the uninformed public with outright lies!
Exaggerating and twisting truth!

Personally,
Id feel ashamed at my participation in such a scam, but I didn't post the bull, and evidently you are able to live with your part in it.

The post brought controversy, opinions of others, a forum.

This is not a bad thing.

There is injustice, it takes a spark to start a fire.

If we don't question, we are doomed to be followers to the wills of others.

We are part of the solution or we are part of the problem. My only desire is not to be part of the problem, and if it takes controversy to find an answer, or to get different opinions, it is communication, and through communication the truth will be found. Someone knows, I don't, so I use tools at my disposal to find out.

Thank you for your participation and input.

So you posted it knowing it was a lie?

I find such tactics to be self-defeating, as now I have zero confidence in any post you make.
It also ties up the servers in congress by flooding them with thousands of e-mails from concerned citizens who are replying to a bogus claim. While the servers are tied up it keeps thousands of legitimate concerns from being heard, and slowing down gov business.

I think they just had a similar crash caused by the same BS.
They were talking about passing a law that would make such actions illegal. I think they have a good reason!

To "agree to disagree" leads to the truth being sought from two directions.

There are many cliche's in the world all founded from some origin. I believe those origins were founded in someones search for truth.

"There's 2 sides to every coin", "You reap what you sow", "All in a days work", "The truth shall set you free!"

I believe even we can agree on this

I have heard this post stated before. I did not post it as a truth, or a lie. Is this not a political forum? How then can you make a claim to disagree with controversy when that is the basis of these forums?

To make a valid point, I would gladly admit my sin if there was a sin committed. The post did exactly what is was intended to do, in the place intended and born for it.

I have stated and expressed my intensions and desires for posting it. We have both voiced opinions that any viewing can read and formulate an opinion of their own from, and if they so desire, can seek their own truth. Again, a good thing.

My question to you would be:

By what right, after stating my intentions, voicing my reasons, accepting and thanking you for your input to this forum, do you condemn me to be anything but a seeker of truth or an advocate for the research of it?

This is not a new post, many have seen an received it in emails and on the web. By posting it herein, within this forum, I have given it the light of day for open discussion for ANY opinion, even yours.

Why the personal attack to my integrity? Do we start killing before asking questions now? In my opinion, it is such closemindedness that has us in the present situation we find ourselves in.

A warrantless attach on my character is liken to a prempted attack on a nation because you "believe" they will harm us in the future. Do we start also killing children because we "believe" they will become serial killers?

Are people to "believe" the daily news because it is on TV or in the paper? I sure hope not! To assume I have the power to "influence" by a simple post in a forum, rather than seek varied input and other opinions by doing so, is wrong on your part. Give any reader credit for having a mind of their own, and an abilility, as you have, to post to this forum to agree or disagree. That is the reason for forums.

It is now I who question your future critisisms to this or any post, and while I defend your right to your opinion, I cannot easily "believe" your intentions and opinions are not biased, and "personalized" attacks on the individual.

Have a good day, and I wish you peace.

Bureaucrats do not deserve any safety net. This is because they do not work, they just sit on their arses and do not even read the bills they are asking their fellow bureaucrats to vote for, while they go take a nap.