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Topic: personal beliefs
yellowrose10's photo
Thu 04/09/09 02:27 PM
no one should shove it down anyone's throat. I don't agree with doing that....no matter what the belief is. The catch in forums is....it's not really shoved down anyone's throat because we have the option to not read posts....but that is my opinion

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Thu 04/09/09 02:31 PM
are there alot of those around? i hear about places like that once in a while but iv never had the chance to go to any.the last meduim i came across turned out to be more of a small.iv only really known one really spiratuel person (my friends mom) and she was awesome largly because of it.

Pink_lady's photo
Thu 04/09/09 02:35 PM
Well im in the UK, and i know that there are between 2 - 4 spiritualist organisations in my city, and i think its the same in most cities in the UK.

The place i attend, and have done for over 10yrs is not a church, its a spiritualist society which is supported by the National Spiritualist Union.

My 12 yr old niece came with me, and she loved it, in fact, she wants to go again next week, which we are.


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Thu 04/09/09 02:36 PM
yea i just didnt want it to become a religous debate or anything like that.which it kind of did anyway with no small help from me but you get the idea.i tend to go on the offensive a bit when its brought up in this manner because it gets it out of the way faster. people will always be passionate about their beliefs,or they wouldnt be able to claim then.i expected it one way or another regardless,i just didnt want it to drown out everything else.

yellowrose10's photo
Thu 04/09/09 02:37 PM
i respect others...i love to learn new things. a good friend of mine is wiccan and i have learned interesting things from her.

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Thu 04/09/09 02:40 PM
sorry im kind of ignorant but as far as i can tell theres alot of variances in spirituality.do you believe in the power of the human spirit alone or do you incorperate nature or..? not trying to pry or anything but im curious and bored.

Pink_lady's photo
Thu 04/09/09 02:43 PM
Seven Principles of Spiritualism

Our Seven Principles are legally accepted and a lawfully recognised definition of the religious philosophy of Spiritualism. A brief explanation of each one follows:



The Fatherhood of God

By the study of Nature - that is, by trying to understand the Laws of Cause & Effect which govern all that is happening around us - we recognise that there is a creative force in the universe. This force, or energy, not only created the whole universe, but also life itself in its many forms and is continuing to create today. The effects of this eternal creation can be seen around us and this leads us to the evidence that 'God' - 'The Creative Force' - manifests directly, or indirectly, in all things. We know this power as God and as we are part of the Life created by God, we acknowledge God as our Father.



The Brotherhood of Man
Because we all come from the same universal life source we are, in effect, one large family, small individual offshoot from the whole. This means that all mankind is part of a brotherhood. A brotherhood is a community for mutual support and comfort. We are all members of the same divine family. We need to share our joys as well as our burdens; we need to understand the needs of other individuals in order to assist them as part of our service to each other. As we learn to give so must we also learn to receive thereby achieving the necessary balance for our life. We must look not only to the material necessities of our fellow creatures but also to their spiritual needs and help those in need to become strong and worthy of their relationship in the Family of God.



Communion of Spirits and the Ministry of Angels

All religions believe in life after death but only Spiritualism shows that it is true by demonstrating that communication with departed spirits can and does take place. Spiritualist Churches provide one of the venues where communication, through mediumship, is possible and many loved relatives and friends take advantage of this opportunity to continue to take an interest in our welfare. There are also spirit people/teachers who are dedicated to the welfare and service of mankind. Some (e.g. Silver Birch) bring inspiration and teachings whilst others work within the healing ministry.



Continuous Existence of the Human Soul

It is scientifically proven that matter (being part of the creative force, or energy) cannot be destroyed; it merely changes its form. Spirit, as part of the Creative Force is, therefore, indestructible. On the death of the physical body, the spirit continues as an integral part of a world, which interpenetrates our world but in a different dimension. This world is referred to as the Spirit World. In spirit life we have a spirit body, which until we progress far enough, is a replica of our earthly body. We are the same individuals in every way with the same personalities and characteristics and we change only by progression, or otherwise, as a result of our own efforts. Our personal responsibilities do not stop at death.



Personal Responsibility

This principle is the one which places responsibility for wrongful thoughts and deeds where it belongs - with the individual. It is the acceptance of responsibility for every aspect of our lives and the use to which we place our lives depends entirely upon ourselves. It is not possible for any other person, or outside influence, to interfere with our spiritual development, unless we are willing to allow this. No one can put right the wrongdoing except the offender. As we are given freedom of choice (freewill) so also are we given the ability to recognise what is right from what is wrong. We are totally, as well as personally, responsible.




Compensation and Retribution hereafter for all Good and Evil Deeds done on Earth
As with all the other Principles, the natural laws apply and this one echoes the law of Cause and Effect (as you sow, so shall you reap). One cannot be cruel and vindictive towards others and expect love and popularity in return. It must be understood that the compensatory or retributive effects of this law operate now -on earth - they do not wait until we begin to live in the Spirit World.



Eternal Progress open to every Human Soul
In every heart there exists the desire for progress and to every human spirit belongs the power to progress in wisdom and love.
All who desire to tread the path that leads to perfection are able to pursue it. The rate of progress is directly proportional to the desire for mental and spiritual understanding. If we do our best in earth life to follow our inward prompting or intuitions; we shall find progress very easy, on earth as in spirit; if not, every step in advancement will follow a struggle against imperfections, which we ourselves will have worked into our natures. Within the Family of God, with all the advantages that our realisation of that state can give us, we are all given the opportunity to be responsible for our own eternal progress.

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Thu 04/09/09 03:18 PM
lawl

Dan99's photo
Thu 04/09/09 03:26 PM

lawl


Are you trying to make some kind of point?

Jess642's photo
Thu 04/09/09 03:37 PM
l...ove
a..ll
w...omen
l...ongingly.


:tongue:

Dan99's photo
Thu 04/09/09 03:42 PM

l...ove
a..ll
w...omen
l...ongingly.


:tongue:


And if you believe that, you must be a man whore!

Jess642's photo
Thu 04/09/09 03:43 PM


l...ove
a..ll
w...omen
l...ongingly.


:tongue:


And if you believe that, you must be a man whore!



Hahahahahaaaaa!!!!!!!!! Nup, it was the first thing I could think of!

noway noway laugh laugh

Pink_lady's photo
Thu 04/09/09 03:46 PM
lets
all
wallow in
love

LOL!sick

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Thu 04/09/09 08:23 PM
My apologies, because it seems that the topic has been going in a different direction, but I just wanted to comment on the author's earlier comment...

what makes you do the things you do.


I am of the opinion that there are two facets of human behaviour, the unconscious and conscious aspects, that relate to this question, although all could be summed up into one all-inclusive category.

Of the unconscious and conscious choices/decisions, one's sense of ought plays the underlying role of what makes one do the things that they do, no matter whether they think about it or not.

Peace!



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Fri 04/10/09 04:55 PM

the issue for me isnt a lack of evidence,its evidence directly against it.look up similarities between the stories of jesus and horus from egyption mythology (several thousand years before) or any other religions.90% are the same at the base. most people dont even know the quran is largly christian gospels just like the new testament. which in itself was only an amalgamation of various stories,commishioned by an emporer to keep the peace. yes yes,i cant be right etc,look it up.

i could go on forever but thats all i care to at the moment.
how many people have strong beliefs other than religous?


Or Mythra . . . many more.


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Mon 04/13/09 09:43 AM
Edited by grey0988 on Mon 04/13/09 09:46 AM

My apologies, because it seems that the topic has been going in a different direction, but I just wanted to comment on the author's earlier comment...

what makes you do the things you do.


I am of the opinion that there are two facets of human behaviour, the unconscious and conscious aspects, that relate to this question, although all could be summed up into one all-inclusive category.

Of the unconscious and conscious choices/decisions, one's sense of ought plays the underlying role of what makes one do the things that they do, no matter whether they think about it or not.

Peace!





true enough but in philosophy people tend to speak like its only the conscious that matters,or vice versa.or at the very least like the issue has already been settled. or they skip the middle man and begin arguing their point of how much (or how little depending on their view) someones actual conscious matters in dcision making,as opposed to the orignal question.really we can only guess,like the nature versus nurture issue.we have evidence,but we just don know. so i ignored it.since this was about beliefs i meant for it to imply what beliefs directed actions,and beliefs are by defalt,consciou thoughts.though they can root deeper over time.

after i reread this it looks snippy and rude,and i really dont mean for it to be,sorry if it seems like it.

i guess really you did say your piece on what you believe though.

soo many more examples.the great flood is in most major religions in one way or another.the original bible commisioned by emperor constantine has been lost and 'every' bible now is just a guess when it comes to the original books.most gods were absorbed and perversed by other religiions. if i remember right we made leprachauns out of one of the strongest celtic(?) gods.

im amazed this thread is stillalive.good thing though im bored.

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