I've been getting that crap term "conspiracy theory" thrown at me more and more, especially since Obama has taken office. I wanted to come correct with something.

I find myself amused in a sort of abstract way, that the concept of a Conspiracy is pooh poohed immediately, especially by the supporters of which ever side happened to be in the fake seat of power when the event occured... Yet, for example, even the media in this country was quick to parrot the "conspiracy" idea when Benazir Bhutto was assassinated, with everything from ISI, Taliban, AL Qaeda involvement being included in the conspiracy.
It was never touted as a "lone gunman" theory, it was automatically a Conspiracy.

So where did this irrational, retarded concept come from that America, historically and currently is somehow immune from people who would Conspire?

Anybody in our history who has been killed under questionable circumstances, the case is always the same... "No Conspiracy here folks, nothing to see, move along... you, who are still looking, you're a tinfoil nut." This is how all these questionable situations have been treated, whether it's big time, like JFK, 9/11, CIA running drugs or MLK. or smaller, like Vince Foster or Debrah Jean Palfrey. So when it comes to any other place on the planet, Conspiracies are prevalent and accepted, but in the Good ole U.S. of A, no such thing, completely exempt?

Yet, it's mainline history that our very own Government has had people assassinated in other countries, overthrown leaders or even whole governments in other nations, yet they couldn't possibly ever consider doing these things here at home...I mean, assassinations in Guatemala, propping up Pinochet, the Shah, Saddam and Bin Laden, these are all our doing, but we aren't allowed to even consider or contemplate that those same elements aren't doing the same things here?

Why is that so hard to conceive, so hard to wrap ones mind around?

Propaganda has been shoved in so far deep into most people, they believe anything the (government mouthpiece) media tells them.

What no catcalls of "tinfoil hat"?

It's okay to dismiss me and others in different threads with the Conpiracy theory label, but when called out on exactly where this mentality comes from I find nothing but one lone voice in agreement and from those that throw the label around... silence.

I find that to be interesting and particularly, I find it to be a disabling of that pathetic label.

Some would call it denial.
Not wanting to believe conspiracies happen.
Who knows, the CIA may have changed Bin Laden's status to ally and they could be protecting him.

I trust you W.M. but I dont trust the republicans. As soon as I see them say something I dont believe it. I have kind of started hoping that Obama actually is all the things they say he is so he will wipe them out. Or at least lock them up because I believe their poisonous idealogy is satanic and becoming a threat to human survival.

or they never changed his status at all, seeing as he's a creation of our CIA in the first place, via authorization pushed for by Brzezinski, authorized by Carter and continued by Reagan.


What's the first trick in the book, when talking about emerging tyrannies? Make an enemy. We've been doing that for awhile now.

I'm just plain disgusted by those who use "Conspiracy theorist" with the same kind of spite that one might use when calling someone a bigot.

I would never trust someone, based on their party affiliation. I trust them based on their records and their actions.

Just a little history, those neocons who took a hardline position, while pushing the traditional Republicans into a corner, find their roots...in the left.

It's a fake system, Right/Left both sides pushing for the same basic agenda of bloated Government, out of control spending and military empire, which by design, is eventually, one way or another, going to be the end of America and the beginning of Amerika. Jesse Ventura had the best analogy of the 2 party system. He says it's exactly like Pro Wrestling. These folks get into the media, talk a ton of trash on each other, vehemently butt heads with each other while anyone outside of the game is watching and then the doors close and they laugh, have dinner and march off with our rights, money and all the power to govern.

Bin Ladens dead, admittedly killed and testified to by an another CIA asset in the Middle East. It made the news.... just not in the USA. Think about it! If the people knew Bin Laden was dead they might take steps to stop the trillion dollar war machine..... and they can't let that happen.

They can call me a conspiracy theorist. That would put me in the ranks of many great heros like Nathan Hale, Ben Franklin, Thomas Payne and many others...... A Patriot!

My Constitution, OUR Constitution, says that we must be, must always question our government and to not do so is unpatriotic.... so they can fling their names at me.

Bush said it best (believe it or not) "You are either with us, or you are with the terrorists!" To not abide by your Constitutional rights and orders.... you are with the terrorists

Do you still wish to call those of us who question government names?

8)

I must admit that you certainly are a man of conviction W.M.

I have seen you stay consistent for months (almost a year)and even when there was a change of power in the goverment you still remain consistent with your message.

Consistent... I'll accept that compliment.

It's generally easy to see how these folks in power are going to act, all you have to do is see who they're surrounding themselves with.

Thats how I was able to see through Bush and it was just as easy to see through Obama with the same tactic.

Now had Obama surrounded himself with a folks who didn't have a huge documented history of pushing for globalism and tyranny, I would have stepped back, gave him a chance to show he was a man of his word and then pointed out when it became obvious what his intentions were.

Consitency on this issue is easy, those in power make it easy to continue championing the Constitution, bashing my intellect against the movement towards a Global fascsist system and generally just doing the WTF dance as our Soveriegnty, freedom and liberty gets does the turd swivel after the flush.

You know the WTF dance... it's the one where someone is so flabbergasted at a situation that they just kind of bounce from foot to foot while pointing at something... yea... I knew you've done the WTF dance too!

It's our system and it's the best system in the world.

The CIA killed Kennedy
The moon landing was faked
There are alien spaceships in Area 51
There are alien bodies there, too.
Sonny Bono was murdered

And blah blah blah blah blah

Thats kinda a broad, vague statement, care to qualify it with some correlating evidence?

Sonny Bono? Aliens?

Moon landing?

That's a typical tactic, lumping those who have real issues, real evidence with those whose issues are either just weird or speculative.

Skull and Bones, not Aliens.
Globalism, not Moon landings.
One World Fascism, not Sonny friggin' Bono.

As for the JFK situation. Whats more of a weirdo idea, a bullet that defies all the known laws of physics or a cabal of people seeking to used terrorist tactics, like assassination, to move a Government towards their own ends.

Sadat was killed by members of his own Government, why is it impossible to surmise that JFK could have as well? Especially with all the extremely odd crap surrounding his death. How about this, explain to me, who has the power to call off a Secret Service detail?

I would be going out on a limb here, but I would guess it isn't a "Magic Bullet".

I have actually learned more and more from my own research. I'm not convinced of everything but I WILL keep an eye out

Johnson was sworn in before the body stopped quivering. Ain't that a kick?

Aliester Crowley is George W.Bush's true grandfather on his motherside. He was the founder of the church of Satan in England.

I said what I meant, War. We have the best political system in the world - flaws and all.

The song "Mr.Crowley" by Ozzy Osbourne is about him