each human is a soverign free entity, with the god given right to do with it's body as it see's fit, as long as it does not try to encourage, manipulate, enforce, it's want and will upon another???

if there is a gay, then there is a "free will moral agent" gay that wish and enjoy the same, and it is only to try to convert or make other's like self, to bolster what self want, that first make any evil in the world???

what that ever harmed, could have done so, unless it first believed that it's own needs or wants were of greater value than another's???

my gay brother has every god given right to be gay, being born a free will moral agent, and indeed learns the same things of self confidence and equality and love by being gay, but, if this same one, believes and encourages and teaches all are really gay, or should be gay, and gay is BETTER, this most often only done by the human nature to try to prove and believe self is most good if other's are like itself, than this same one has then fallen prey, to the very same thing, the gay one first despised about the non gay???

it is a fine line, between living in peace, and being true to oneself, and trying to control other's for the emotional needs of self???

live and let live, or self subvert it's own life, which is to not live at all???

if anything wish to preserve and fight for what this country was founded upon, than this very FIRST premise was NOT freedom, or POWER, or MONEY, or JOBS, or JUSTICE, or HAPPINESS, but only EQUAL, which CREATE all the rest of these things, to the maximum state possible, when there is any more than just ONE person???

the eye's and heart must have a foundation, to stare at, to know how to create all the symtoms of what it seek, which can be nothing greater than EQUAL, which simply means it MUST be able to be done for ALL, or for no one, and only EQUAL lead to the path of the now greater EQUAL, that we are to carry forth and build on, that our forefathers first began, and each fallen soul died for???

peace

Mita. Al sigente dia fue una luna bien grande y bonita. Eso es la luna tu ya?

You are so romantic

mitad para mi y mitad para ti

Si queres, puedo compartir la mitad mio. Mas comodo y cirquita. Como me gusto la romancia!

dayummm I can get used to this new side of you Willing

You are right... My family and I came here legally and became U.S. citizens by jumpin' through a bunch of hoops... So yeah, I have some issues with illegals too.
On the other hand, I work at a hotel (won't mention the name due to the fact that I would like to continue working there) and we hire illegals as maids... mostly from Honduras, Nicaragua, Mexico, El Salvador, ... and why is that? Those are the only ones that apply! Americans, (blacks, whites, hispanics) in our town anyways, I'm not speaking nationwide, they would rather pop out a baby or two, or three, or four and live on welfare than to do a hard back breaking work of cleaning 20 rooms in 8 hours. So the argument that they come here and take our jobs away is simply NOT true...!

LOL
Pay them a decent fair wage and you'll have more applicants than you can stand.
Ones who will clean well enough to pass the 20/20 tests for germs and clean sheets!
Truth is those illegals just make you think they're cleaning. You just dont care because they work for almost nothing and are afraid to ask for a raise.

You're pretty hot yourself, Corazonsita!
We better watch out or this thread could wind up in dating and sex!

Pay them a decent wage, now you know depending on who you ask the range of responses you will get

How many people presently are unemployed but still are not willing or feel they are worth more than the menial jobs they decline to take.

I have no shame, I have cleaned toilets, cleaned homes, flipped burgers, cleaned parks, anything to bring food into my home and pay my way. I am presently looking for a p/t job, should I not look as there are others who need a job?

and you'd be my first

You should go get one of those hotel jobs that are being given to the illegals, and demand Manaman's employers are arrested for hiring illegal immigrants.

Afraid raids won't be happening much longer.
You'd be so proud. I faxed this letter to Obama.

Mr President

I humbly suggest abolish the minimum wage scale. In these hard economic times, I believe it to be obsolete.
Supply and demand. More unemployed and fewer jobs.
Adding 12 to 20 million new legal residents, all competing for jobs along with the millions of unemployed Americans, should be given the opportunity to bid, how much they would be willing to accept as as a wage on the jobs they seek. The lowest bid, matching the qualifications, should be awarded to that person.
Being Bi-lingual should be mandatory in the workplace, at least when working with the public.

Your servant,

Im not that liberal,,,,

..how uncanny ..i guess this wouldnt have anything to do with the fact that obama's aunt is an illegal ...also i suppose he has to start a universal health care because i wonder how well this would have went over had he let the illegals stay over here while they get free health care on our tax dollars....
..makes you wonder if this ripoff by the banks wasnt orchestrated to drive down the prices of homes so they would better affordable by the immigrants,when you look at the most affect areas price wise that would be right in line with the immigrant influx...

I only posted this thread to expand on a thread I posted immediately after Obama signed the new SCHIP bill. The changes in the bill allowed new citizens children to immediately be eligible. The old program forced them to wait 5 years before becoming eligible. The raising of tobacco taxes was implemented to pay for all this.