Go voileazur I got your back, buddy

I can separate my personal opinions and beliefs and know others are different...I have no problem with that. My beliefs and values are MINE....and I don't expect people to hold the same as I do.

Yes it sure is. Sad though perhaps that's someplace we need to fix where political campaigns are concerned. I don't know I just know churches have way too much control based on their money in a country where we are suppose to have freedom of religion.

I'm with you on that. There are lots of things being done that I don't agree with but it's not my place to be in other peoples business.

davey

I don't understand why people don't know the differences of the definitions of gay and pedophile.

My friend's husband (now ex) is in prison for 30 years for his step-daughter. He has no interest in men. He's a pedophile!!!!

winx...you are right. i thought the BSA have been in the news before for pediphiles. but maybe since it was a man with a boy they assume it's a homosexual thing. they are 2 different things IMO

Rose,

They are two different things. It's a fact.

Yup experts would and have absolute agreed on that.

i'm not up on pediphile facts....so i couldn't say fact. i was just speaking from my opinion....but glad you have the facts...because i didn't

Wiki:

As a medical diagnosis, it is defined as a psychological disorder in which an adult experiences a sexual preference for prepubescent children. According to the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM), pedophilia is specified as a form of paraphilia in which a person either has acted on intense sexual urges towards children, or experiences recurrent sexual urges towards and fantasies about children that cause distress or interpersonal difficulty. The disorder is frequently a feature of persons who commit child sexual abuse; however, some offenders do not meet the clinical diagnosis standards for pedophilia.

In law enforcement, the term "pedophile" is generally used to describe those accused or convicted of the sexual abuse of a minor (including both prepubescent children and adolescent minors younger than the local age of consent).

In common usage, the term refers to any adult who is sexually attracted to children or who sexually abuses a child.

thanks winx....i never looked up the actual studies or anything...to me it's common sense

Pedophiles would be the danger to the Boys Scouts not gay people.
I don't care if gay people are around my child. I'm scared to death to have a pedophile around my child though.

no...i agree with you 100%

So what's with the BSA now, was it ever resolved? The BSA is a private club, no? I mean if they are private aren't they allowed to exclude?

I do believe they are a private organization....don't quote me on it though

I know how to googoo stuff.
For what it's worth;
The Boy Scouts of America (BSA), the largest youth organization in the United States, has policies which prohibit atheists, agnostics, and "known or avowed" homosexuals from membership in its Scouting program; both youths and adults have had their memberships revoked as a result. The BSA contends that these policies are essential in its mission to instill in young people the values of the Scout Oath and Law.[1][2] These policies are controversial and are considered by some to be unfair.[3][4]

The organization's legal right to have these policies has been upheld repeatedly by both state and federal courts. The Supreme Court of the United States has affirmed that as a private organization, the BSA can set its own membership standards. In recent years, the policy disputes have led to litigation over the terms under which the BSA can access governmental resources including public lands.

Since 1991, openly gay individuals have been officially prohibited from joining the Boy Scouts of America.[15] A 1991 Position Statement states: “We believe that homosexual conduct is inconsistent with the requirement in the Scout Oath that a Scout be morally straight and in the Scout Law that a Scout be clean in word and deed, and that homosexuals do not provide a desirable role model for Scouts.”[16] The BSA thus "believes that a known or avowed homosexual is not an appropriate role model of the Scout Oath and Law."[17]

The language used to describe the BSA's policies on homosexuals has evolved over time. Prior to 2004, the policy stated:

"We do not allow for the registration of avowed homosexuals as members or as leaders of the BSA."[18]

In 2004, the BSA adopted a new policy statement:

"Boy Scouts of America believes that homosexual conduct is inconsistent with the obligations in the Scout Oath and Scout Law to be morally straight and clean in thought, word, and deed. The conduct of youth members must be in compliance with the Scout Oath and Law, and membership in Boy Scouts of America is contingent upon the willingness to accept Scouting’s values and beliefs."

They prohibit homosexuals but not pedophiles.

Hmm...they prohibit atheists and agnostics. I wonder if they allow Jewish people, Muslims or any other non-Christian group.

Surveys of Those Convicted
Drs Freund and Heasman (9) of the Clarke Institute of Psychiatry in Toronto reviewed two sizeable studies and calculated that 34% and 32% of the offenders against children were homosexual. In cases they had personally handled, homosexuals accounted for 36% of their 457 pedophiles.

Dr. Adrian Copeland, a psychiatrist who works with sexual offenders at the Peters Institute in Philadelphia, said (10) that, from his experience, pedophiles tend to be homosexual and “40% to 45%” of child molesters have had “significant homosexual experiences.”

Dr. C. H. McGaghy (11) estimated that “homosexual offenders probably constitute about half of molesters who work with children.” Other studies are similar:

– Of the approximately 100 child molesters in 1991 at the Massachusetts Treatment Center for Sexually Dangerous Persons, a third were heterosexual, a third bisexual and a third homosexual in orientation. (12)

– A state-wide survey of 161 Vermont adolescents who committed sex offenses in 1984 found that 35 (22%) were homosexual. (13)

– Of the 91 molesters of non-related children at Canada’s Kingston Sexual Behaviour Clinic from 1978-1984, 38 (42%) engaged in homosexuality. (14)

– Of 52 child molesters in Ottawa from 1983 to 1985, 31 (60%) were homosexual. (15)

– In England for 1973, 802 persons (8 females) were convicted of indecent assault on a male, and 3,006 (6 of them female) were convicted of indecent assault on a female (i.e., 21% were homosexual). 88% of male and about 70% of female victims were under age sixteen. (16)

Because of this pattern, Judge J. T. Rees concluded that “the male homosexual naturally seeks the company of the male adolescent, or of the young male adult, in preference to that of the fully-grown man. [In 1947] 986 persons were convicted of homosexual and unnatural offences. Of those, 257 were indictable offences involving 402 male victims…. The great majority of [whom]… were under the age of 16. Only 11%… were over 21.”

“[T]he problem of male homosexuality is in essence the problem of the corruption of youth by itself [i.e., by other boys] and by its elders. [And thereby]… the creation… of new addicts ready to corrupt a still further generation of young men and boys in the future.”


http://www.familyresearchinst.org/2009/02/child-molestation-and-homosexuality-2/

What Homosexuals Admit
The 1948 Kinsey survey found that 37% of the gays and 2% of the lesbians admitted to sexual relations with under-17-yr-olds, and 28% of the gays and 1% of the lesbians admitted to sexual relations with under-16-yr-olds while they themselves were aged 18 or older. (18)

In 1970 the Kinsey Institute interviewed 565 white gays in San Francisco: 25% of them admitted to having had sex with boys aged 16 or younger while they themselves were at least 21. (19)

In The Gay Report, 23% of the gays and 6% of the lesbians admitted to sexual interaction with youth less than 16 years of age. (20)

In France, 129 convicted gays (21)(average age 34 years) said they had had sexual contact with a total of 11,007 boys (an average of 85 different boys per man). Abel et al reported similarly that men who molested girls outside their family had averaged 20 victims each; those who molested boys averaged 150 victims each.