Topic: The Holy Trinity
Abracadabra's photo
Sat 05/05/07 09:56 PM
Hinduism has a trinity also, Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva

And like Christianity different version of the religion see the trinity
in different ways.

I think the main interpretation is as follows:

Brahma – the godhead or (father)
Vishnu – the cosmic mind
Shiva – the destroyer

These are explained as:

Brahma is the godhead that starts the illusion of life
Vishnu is it the cosmic mind that keeps the illusion going
Shiva is the destroyer of the illusion at the end of life.

That’s one interpretation

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Another interpretation that I personally like better is as follows:

Brahma – the godhead or (father) & as well as the collective cosmic mind
Vishnu – the individual cosmic minds of all living things.
Shiva – the physical illusion of reality as well as the destroyer in the
end

Now, I’m not Hindu. But I do believe that the universe is god and that
I’m part of the universe. Therefore I see my god in a similar way that
the Hindus see theirs

Brahma – the father (the collective spirit)
Vishnu – the son (all living creatures)
Shiva – the holy spirit (nature)

So in a sense the way that I view god also has a holy trinity or a
father, son, and holy spirit. They are all one, yet they are different
aspects of the same oneness. Vishnu (men and all living creatures) can
never be separated from Brahma because we are all one. And in fact,
everything is one. Even the rocks, water, wind and fire, are all Shiva
the holy spirit (or nature). It’s all one. We can’t be separated from
Brahma, because in the end Vishnu, Shiva and Braham are one.

I like those words too. But I don’t buy into the entire doctrine of
Hinduism because like all religions it starts to get into describing
mandatory moral behavior and rituals, etc. I don’t buy into tying my
spirituality into moral behavior and rituals. Christianity of course
goes to the extreme in that regard. Christianity is extremely sin and
salvation oriented. So much so that it overwhelms the whole religion,
and this is what I don’t like about it. The religion starts telling
people how they should live their lives in far too much detail. I don’t
care for that aspect of any religion.

AdventureBegins's photo
Sat 05/05/07 10:02 PM
Nice post Abra...

and when you remove the symbology.

Brahma – The begining (ALPHA)
Vishnu – Life as it is(the path)
Shiva – The end time (OMEGA)

killxherxoff's photo
Sat 05/05/07 10:02 PM
are you honestly thinking you can comprehend any part of the trinity?
seriously.
quit acting like you KNOW.
you may have theories,
but only God completely understands His holy parts.

iRon's photo
Sat 05/05/07 10:05 PM
Something that has always bothered me about the Trinity, it seems to me
that it is in direct violation of the 1st commandment "You shall have no
other gods before Me."

When you place the Son and the Holly Ghost at the same level of God
himself, you’re in direct violation of his number one commandments.

The Trinity is human perception.

The commandments are God's word and law....

Just something that has always bothered me

killxherxoff's photo
Sat 05/05/07 10:11 PM
i just know this:
i will never understand a thing about God.
the only thing i can do is read the bible,
interpret it in only a depth to where i can use it in my life,
and leave it at that.
i won't understand.
and i know it.

lulu24's photo
Sat 05/05/07 10:13 PM
beautifully stated.

GaMail50's photo
Sat 05/05/07 10:14 PM
My belief is that we aren't meant to understand everything.

AdventureBegins's photo
Sat 05/05/07 10:17 PM
Never said I understood it.

Simply said I can see the same belief in other religions besides
christian.

Once the symbology is stripped away.

no photo
Sat 05/05/07 10:38 PM
iRon,

Christians worship God the Father, just like everything else in the
universe. Jesus is our High Priest. Jesus is also probably the author
of the Bible, through divine inspiration. Jesus said "Before Abraham
was, I AM", which leads one to believe that it was Jesus who introduced
himself as "I AM" from the burning bush.

Matthew 28:18-19
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And Jesus came up and spoke to them, saying, "All authority has been
given to Me in heaven and on earth. Go therefore and make disciples of
all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son
and the Holy Spirit,"
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The idea of the trinity is completely scriptural and was taught by
Jesus.

So while we will probably not understand the Trinity this side of life,
we know that the Trinity is real and probably is comprised of
relationships that mortal human minds cannot fully comprehend.

Abracadabra's photo
Sat 05/05/07 11:06 PM
AB wrote:
"and when you remove the symbology.

Brahma – The begining (ALPHA)
Vishnu – Life as it is(the path)
Shiva – The end time (OMEGA)"

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I like that.

And like you say, it all just symbolic romantic representation. It’s
fun to philosophize about it but in the end we’re all one. Everything
is one. Invisible, Artgurl, and Jess Lee were right all along.

TheLonelyWalker's photo
Sun 05/06/07 02:28 PM
killxherxoff wrote:

are you honestly thinking you can comprehend any part of the trinity?
seriously.
quit acting like you KNOW.
you may have theories,
but only God completely understands His holy parts

I agree with u in the sense that God is the only one who knows the whole
thing.
however, in His mercy He lets us see and comprehend to some extent His
mistery, so we can discern His will on our lifes.
therefore, we have to know Him in order to love Him.
Plus each one of us entitled to his/her own opinion about God

TheLonelyWalker's photo
Sun 05/06/07 02:31 PM
The conclusion that AB reached and James supported is the same I have.
God is one with three different "functions"
And all of us are one with God and the whole creation.
The problem with most of the religions is that they think that they own
the truth, and that is way they exclude all other people who don't
believe in the same.

Redykeulous's photo
Sun 05/06/07 08:03 PM
Ok, I'm late but feel like posting anyway.

Then there is always the idea that:

When the idea of a single God first came along, it was difficult to
comprehend, as all other ancient mythologies worshiped many gods. So
it might just be that 'the idea of God' was easier to promote as three
gods in one.

The first time this comes accross is in the Book of Genisis where God
said:

26 Then God said, "Let us make man in our image, after our likeness; and
let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the birds of
the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every
creeping thing that creeps upon the earth." 27 So God created man in his
own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he
created them.

Now here we see that God had a dilema. How to make a creature in its'
own image, but still allow them the ability to procreate? So he made
them Male in the image of its' masculine nature, and also made Female in
the image of its' feminine, and with his breath gave them both spirit,
which is of course the physical make-up of God.

God in three persons, masculine, feminine, and spirt.

However, with the acceptance of a singe, only God, it became necessary
to find some way to address the three God concept. How convenient that
the Holy Trinity did not come into affect until AFTER Jesus. NOW the
Genisis story is indicative of prophacy - as Jesus is considered the Son
in this trilogy. Aint hindsight a wonderful think in the hands of those
who can interpret it???

Redykeulous's photo
Sun 05/06/07 08:04 PM
Abra & Adventure - I really liked your posts, both of them. Nice.

jeanc200358's photo
Sun 05/06/07 08:08 PM
lulu, I believe they are "separate" but "equal"..God the Father, God the
Son and God the Holy Spirit.

no photo
Tue 05/08/07 06:40 PM
wheres the trinity in the bible? never saw it, or the pre trib nonsense
either for that matter. doctrine of man, not of God.

scttrbrain's photo
Tue 05/08/07 06:50 PM
The Father the Son, and the Holy Spirit(Ghost), one in the same. My
opinion and my belief.

Kat

no photo
Tue 05/08/07 06:57 PM
rambill79 wrote:

wheres the trinity in the bible? never saw it, or the pre trib nonsense
either for that matter. doctrine of man, not of God.

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SpiderCMB replied:

The Trinity is very Biblical. We don't know how the relationship
between the father, son and Holy Spirit works, but we know that it does
exist. You can read about it at the link below.

http://www.gotquestions.org/Trinity-Bible.html

jeanc200358's photo
Tue 05/08/07 07:24 PM
I always related the Trinity to the egg analogy.

(Which reminds me. I just ate God. Well, Jesus, anyway.)

noway

Abracadabra's photo
Tue 05/08/07 07:49 PM
The egotist's Holy Trinity:

Me
Myself
I