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Thu 04/02/09 06:34 PM





data reported by medical examiners show that out of 664 marijuana-related deaths, there were 187 deaths where marijuana was the only drug reported.



I am so sorry but I have to call total BS on this.
The amount of marijuana it would take to be a lethal dose is way more than anyone could even come close to consuming.
This is nothing more than propaganda designed to put fear in then people who dont know how to think for themselves.




Marijuana will make you sick and pass out/fall asleep long before you have had enough to give you an overdose.

However, you are wrong to call it BS, as some people will die as a result of smoking it. Like if it makes you unaware you are about to be run over by a bus. The statement you referred to said marijuana RELATED deaths, not overdoses.

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Thu 04/02/09 06:41 PM






data reported by medical examiners show that out of 664 marijuana-related deaths, there were 187 deaths where marijuana was the only drug reported.



I am so sorry but I have to call total BS on this.
The amount of marijuana it would take to be a lethal dose is way more than anyone could even come close to consuming.
This is nothing more than propaganda designed to put fear in then people who dont know how to think for themselves.




Marijuana will make you sick and pass out/fall asleep long before you have had enough to give you an overdose.

However, you are wrong to call it BS, as some people will die as a result of smoking it. Like if it makes you unaware you are about to be run over by a bus. The statement you referred to said marijuana RELATED deaths, not overdoses.


Marijuana related, but not the cause of death. If I have too many coffee's, get jittery and cause a car wreck. I happen to die... is that a coffee related or caffiene related death?

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Thu 04/02/09 07:15 PM







data reported by medical examiners show that out of 664 marijuana-related deaths, there were 187 deaths where marijuana was the only drug reported.



I am so sorry but I have to call total BS on this.
The amount of marijuana it would take to be a lethal dose is way more than anyone could even come close to consuming.
This is nothing more than propaganda designed to put fear in then people who dont know how to think for themselves.




Marijuana will make you sick and pass out/fall asleep long before you have had enough to give you an overdose.

However, you are wrong to call it BS, as some people will die as a result of smoking it. Like if it makes you unaware you are about to be run over by a bus. The statement you referred to said marijuana RELATED deaths, not overdoses.


Marijuana related, but not the cause of death. If I have too many coffee's, get jittery and cause a car wreck. I happen to die... is that a coffee related or caffiene related death?

You can argue all you want too. It is a medical record.

Ihave smoked for so many years.

I have had three anxiety attacks. I had no clue where they came from. First one I just kinda said "what the hell?" Why? The second one..kinda the same. The third one...well, I have been to the emergency room three times with these. Last two by ambulance. It wasn't til the third one that it was painfully obvious. I had smoked a little wit my sister and about half an hour later I was in an ambulance. They asked me straight up had I been smoking pot. I told them no, but it happened right after. It finally became clear to me these very scarey episodes were a direct response to smoking pot. That was some scarey sh-t. I thought I was having a heart attack. I couldn't breathe. They kept me in the hospital the last time. I have not had an episode since then. Now; I cannot say what killed any of these pot smikers...but I have seen people that went waaay off their cookie on pot. If this drug was so simple and safe for everyone...legality would be fine with me. But, it isn't. It affects people differently. I have seen it.

Why do you see a need to legalize it? You obviously smoke it now.

By the way....glad you can afford it.

I think one day and if you have kids and love them...you will see a new face on yourself. No good parent wants to see their kids grow up to be potheads. Nor do they want their kids to have that memory of them high while growing up. Because they do you know. They remember.

Kat

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Thu 04/02/09 07:29 PM








data reported by medical examiners show that out of 664 marijuana-related deaths, there were 187 deaths where marijuana was the only drug reported.



I am so sorry but I have to call total BS on this.
The amount of marijuana it would take to be a lethal dose is way more than anyone could even come close to consuming.
This is nothing more than propaganda designed to put fear in then people who dont know how to think for themselves.




Marijuana will make you sick and pass out/fall asleep long before you have had enough to give you an overdose.

However, you are wrong to call it BS, as some people will die as a result of smoking it. Like if it makes you unaware you are about to be run over by a bus. The statement you referred to said marijuana RELATED deaths, not overdoses.


Marijuana related, but not the cause of death. If I have too many coffee's, get jittery and cause a car wreck. I happen to die... is that a coffee related or caffiene related death?

You can argue all you want too. It is a medical record.

Ihave smoked for so many years.

I have had three anxiety attacks. I had no clue where they came from. First one I just kinda said "what the hell?" Why? The second one..kinda the same. The third one...well, I have been to the emergency room three times with these. Last two by ambulance. It wasn't til the third one that it was painfully obvious. I had smoked a little wit my sister and about half an hour later I was in an ambulance. They asked me straight up had I been smoking pot. I told them no, but it happened right after. It finally became clear to me these very scarey episodes were a direct response to smoking pot. That was some scarey sh-t. I thought I was having a heart attack. I couldn't breathe. They kept me in the hospital the last time. I have not had an episode since then. Now; I cannot say what killed any of these pot smikers...but I have seen people that went waaay off their cookie on pot. If this drug was so simple and safe for everyone...legality would be fine with me. But, it isn't. It affects people differently. I have seen it.

Why do you see a need to legalize it? You obviously smoke it now.

By the way....glad you can afford it.

I think one day and if you have kids and love them...you will see a new face on yourself. No good parent wants to see their kids grow up to be potheads. Nor do they want their kids to have that memory of them high while growing up. Because they do you know. They remember.

Kat



"Why do you see a need to legalize it? You obviously smoke it now."


Obviously, huh? You're mistaken. I've been known to have taken hits from the bong, back in the day, but in order to gain work that lands above minimum wage Mcjobs, you have to pass the urine tests. Which means my job gets to regulate what I do in the privacy of my own home, but thats also a choice, I choose to pay my bills and have a little money left over (sometimes).


Now, you say you've had all these anxiety attacks and you blame weed. Okay, we'll just let that stand, however, why should your experience stomp on the rights of others to choose for themselves?

Why the need to legalize now, I've been a vocal advocate for ending the abyssmal failure known as a drug war for a long time now. Not because I want to run right out to use something, but because I understand that the war on drugs and Government being allowed to regulate personal choice is an infringement on liberty.

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Thu 04/02/09 07:54 PM
One Cannabis Joint Equals Smoking Up to Five Cigarettes
By Judith Groch, Senior Writer, MedPage Today
Published: July 31, 2007
Reviewed by Zalman S. Agus, MD; Emeritus Professor at the University of Pennsylvania School of Medicine. Earn CME/CE credit
for reading medical news


WELLINGTON, New Zealand, July 31 -- For heavy-duty users of marijuana, the joint is tough on the lungs, researchers here found.
2007
Explain to patients that for heavy users, that because of long inhaling smoking a single marijuana joint causes chronic bronchitis with lung damage similar to that of smoking up to five cigarettes.

Point out that the pulmonary effects of marijuana smoking do not include the emphysema associated with cigarette smoking.
In fact, a single marijuana joint for such patients can cause more lung damage than 2.5 to five cigarettes, Richard Beasley, MBChB, FRACP, of the Medical Research Institute of New Zealand here, and colleagues, reported online in Thorax.

Cannabis, the plant source of marijuana, was associated with a dose-related impairment of the large airways, causing airflow obstruction and hyperinflation, the researchers said. But unlike cigarette smoking, cannabis was rarely associated with macroscopic emphysema,

Cannabis is the most widely used illegal drug worldwide. Long-term use is known to cause chronic bronchitis and airflow obstruction, but the prevalence of macroscopic emphysema, the dose-response, and the dose equivalence of cannabis with tobacco had not been determined, Dr. Beasley said.

A sample of 339 adults, ages 18 to 70, was recruited from the Wellington region and put into four groups: cannabis only (75 people), tobacco only (92 people), combined cannabis and tobacco (91), and non-smokers of either substance (81).

Because of the small number of individuals who smoked cannabis in the original random population sample, the investigators used a convenience sample through newspaper and radio advertisements.

Respiratory status was assessed with high-resolution CT scans, pulmonary function tests, and a respiratory and smoking questionnaire. Associations between respiratory status and cannabis use were analyzed with covariance and logistic regression.

Inclusion criteria were a lifetime exposure of at least five joint-years of cannabis or at least one pack-year of tobacco. A joint-year of cannabis was defined as smoking one joint a day for one year and a pack-year of tobacco was equivalent to smoking 20 cigarettes a day for a year.

A dose-response relationship was found between cannabis smoking and reduced forced expiratory volume (FEV1) to forced vital capacity ratio and specific airways conductance, and increased total lung capacity.

For measures of airflow obstruction, one cannabis joint had a similar effect to 2.5 to five cigarettes, the researchers reported.

Airflow obstruction and hyperinflation are a consequence of the large airway impairment, probably due to inflammation and edema in the tracheobronchial mucosa of cannabis smokers, the researchers said.

Cannabis smoking was also associated with decreased lung density on high-resolution CT scans.

Wheezing was linked to both cannabis (OR 1.3) and tobacco smoking (OR 1.4), with no evidence of an interaction.

Chest tightness was associated with cannabis (OR 1.4) but not with tobacco smoking (OR 1.1).

Cough was associated with both cannabis (OR 1.5) and tobacco (1.9).

Chronic bronchitis was likelier with cannabis than with tobacco use (OR 2.0 versus 1.6).

The combined effects of smoking both cannabis and tobacco was to attenuate all these associations, the researchers reported.

On the other hand, macroscopic emphysema was seen in only those who smoked tobacco, either alone or in combination with cannabis.

Emphysema was detected in only one of the cannabis smokers (1.3%), in 15 (16.3%) of the cigarette smokers, in 17 (18.9%) of the combination smokers, and in none of the non-smoking groups.

This suggests that cannabis does not cause emphysema when smoked in sufficient quantities to cause airflow obstruction, hyperinflation, and chronic bronchitis, the researchers said.

The dose equivalence found in this study, the researchers said, is consistent with the reported three- to five-fold greater levels of carboxyhemoglobin and tar inhaled when smoking a cannabis joint compared with a tobacco cigarette of the same size.

This pattern is likely to relate to the different characteristics of the cannabis joint and the way it is smoked. Cannabis is usually smoked without a filter and to a shorter butt length, while the smoke temperature is higher.

Furthermore, the investigators said, cannabis smokers inhale more deeply, hold their breath longer, and perform the Valsalva maneuver at maximal breath hold.

No conflicts of interest were reported. Support for the study was provided by the New Zealand Ministry of Health, the Hawke's Bay Medical Research Foundation, and GlaxoSmithKline (UK).
and logistic regression.

Results: A total of 339 subjects were recruited into the four groups. A dose-response relationship was found between cannabis smoking and reduced FEV1/FVC and sGaw, and increased TLC. For measures of airflow obstruction, one cannabis joint had a similar effect to between 2.5 and 6 tobacco cigarettes. Cannabis smoking was associated with decreased lung density on HRCT scans. Macroscopic emphysema was detected in 1/75 (1.3%), 15/92 (16.3%), 17/91 (18.9%) and 0/81 subjects in the cannabis only, combined cannabis and tobacco, tobacco alone and non-smoking groups respectively.

Conclusions: Smoking cannabis was associated with a dose-related impairment of large airways function resulting in airflow obstruction and hyperinflation. In contrast, cannabis smoking was seldom associated with macroscopic emphysema. The 1:2.5 to 6 dose equivalence between cannabis joints and tobacco cigarettes for adverse effects on lung function is of major public health significance.

The active substance responsible for the psychostimulating effect of cannabis is delta9-tetrahydrocannabinol (THC). However, as with tobacco smoke, cannabis smoke consists of a large mixture of compounds including

((polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons)),"PAHs" are a class of very stable organic molecules made up of only carbon and hydrogen. These molecules are flat, with each carbon having three neighboring atoms much like graphite. These molecules are highly carcinogenic but they are also very common. They are a standard product of combustion from automobiles and airplanes and some (such as benzo[a]pyrene) are present in charcoal broiled hamburgers." Eating not breathing.

"carbon monoxide",(highly toxic because it interferes with the body's ability to transport oxygen through the blood to the body's cells.Exposure to carbon monoxide can result in a variety of symptoms from headaches, weakness, lethargy, nausea, confusion, disorientation and seizure to fatality. Persons with existing heart conditions may experience increased chest pain.

"cyanide"Well, we all know what that is.

"benzene and many others."
Numerous medical studies have confirmed that exposure to benzene causes leukaemia (blood cancer), depending on the dose and exposure levels.

Nevertheless numerous studies have recommended that exposure to benzene should be kept as low as possible and that ideally people should not be exposed to the chemical at all.

Safe, huh?

Kat





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Fri 04/03/09 06:43 AM

One Cannabis Joint Equals Smoking Up to Five Cigarettes
By Judith Groch, Senior Writer, MedPage Today
Published: July 31, 2007
Reviewed by Zalman S. Agus, MD; Emeritus Professor at the University of Pennsylvania School of Medicine. Earn CME/CE credit
for reading medical news


WELLINGTON, New Zealand, July 31 -- For heavy-duty users of marijuana, the joint is tough on the lungs, researchers here found.
2007
Explain to patients that for heavy users, that because of long inhaling smoking a single marijuana joint causes chronic bronchitis with lung damage similar to that of smoking up to five cigarettes.

Point out that the pulmonary effects of marijuana smoking do not include the emphysema associated with cigarette smoking.
In fact, a single marijuana joint for such patients can cause more lung damage than 2.5 to five cigarettes, Richard Beasley, MBChB, FRACP, of the Medical Research Institute of New Zealand here, and colleagues, reported online in Thorax.

Cannabis, the plant source of marijuana, was associated with a dose-related impairment of the large airways, causing airflow obstruction and hyperinflation, the researchers said. But unlike cigarette smoking, cannabis was rarely associated with macroscopic emphysema,

Cannabis is the most widely used illegal drug worldwide. Long-term use is known to cause chronic bronchitis and airflow obstruction, but the prevalence of macroscopic emphysema, the dose-response, and the dose equivalence of cannabis with tobacco had not been determined, Dr. Beasley said.

A sample of 339 adults, ages 18 to 70, was recruited from the Wellington region and put into four groups: cannabis only (75 people), tobacco only (92 people), combined cannabis and tobacco (91), and non-smokers of either substance (81).

Because of the small number of individuals who smoked cannabis in the original random population sample, the investigators used a convenience sample through newspaper and radio advertisements.

Respiratory status was assessed with high-resolution CT scans, pulmonary function tests, and a respiratory and smoking questionnaire. Associations between respiratory status and cannabis use were analyzed with covariance and logistic regression.

Inclusion criteria were a lifetime exposure of at least five joint-years of cannabis or at least one pack-year of tobacco. A joint-year of cannabis was defined as smoking one joint a day for one year and a pack-year of tobacco was equivalent to smoking 20 cigarettes a day for a year.

A dose-response relationship was found between cannabis smoking and reduced forced expiratory volume (FEV1) to forced vital capacity ratio and specific airways conductance, and increased total lung capacity.

For measures of airflow obstruction, one cannabis joint had a similar effect to 2.5 to five cigarettes, the researchers reported.

Airflow obstruction and hyperinflation are a consequence of the large airway impairment, probably due to inflammation and edema in the tracheobronchial mucosa of cannabis smokers, the researchers said.

Cannabis smoking was also associated with decreased lung density on high-resolution CT scans.

Wheezing was linked to both cannabis (OR 1.3) and tobacco smoking (OR 1.4), with no evidence of an interaction.

Chest tightness was associated with cannabis (OR 1.4) but not with tobacco smoking (OR 1.1).

Cough was associated with both cannabis (OR 1.5) and tobacco (1.9).

Chronic bronchitis was likelier with cannabis than with tobacco use (OR 2.0 versus 1.6).

The combined effects of smoking both cannabis and tobacco was to attenuate all these associations, the researchers reported.

On the other hand, macroscopic emphysema was seen in only those who smoked tobacco, either alone or in combination with cannabis.

Emphysema was detected in only one of the cannabis smokers (1.3%), in 15 (16.3%) of the cigarette smokers, in 17 (18.9%) of the combination smokers, and in none of the non-smoking groups.

This suggests that cannabis does not cause emphysema when smoked in sufficient quantities to cause airflow obstruction, hyperinflation, and chronic bronchitis, the researchers said.

The dose equivalence found in this study, the researchers said, is consistent with the reported three- to five-fold greater levels of carboxyhemoglobin and tar inhaled when smoking a cannabis joint compared with a tobacco cigarette of the same size.

This pattern is likely to relate to the different characteristics of the cannabis joint and the way it is smoked. Cannabis is usually smoked without a filter and to a shorter butt length, while the smoke temperature is higher.

Furthermore, the investigators said, cannabis smokers inhale more deeply, hold their breath longer, and perform the Valsalva maneuver at maximal breath hold.

No conflicts of interest were reported. Support for the study was provided by the New Zealand Ministry of Health, the Hawke's Bay Medical Research Foundation, and GlaxoSmithKline (UK).
and logistic regression.

Results: A total of 339 subjects were recruited into the four groups. A dose-response relationship was found between cannabis smoking and reduced FEV1/FVC and sGaw, and increased TLC. For measures of airflow obstruction, one cannabis joint had a similar effect to between 2.5 and 6 tobacco cigarettes. Cannabis smoking was associated with decreased lung density on HRCT scans. Macroscopic emphysema was detected in 1/75 (1.3%), 15/92 (16.3%), 17/91 (18.9%) and 0/81 subjects in the cannabis only, combined cannabis and tobacco, tobacco alone and non-smoking groups respectively.

Conclusions: Smoking cannabis was associated with a dose-related impairment of large airways function resulting in airflow obstruction and hyperinflation. In contrast, cannabis smoking was seldom associated with macroscopic emphysema. The 1:2.5 to 6 dose equivalence between cannabis joints and tobacco cigarettes for adverse effects on lung function is of major public health significance.

The active substance responsible for the psychostimulating effect of cannabis is delta9-tetrahydrocannabinol (THC). However, as with tobacco smoke, cannabis smoke consists of a large mixture of compounds including

((polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons)),"PAHs" are a class of very stable organic molecules made up of only carbon and hydrogen. These molecules are flat, with each carbon having three neighboring atoms much like graphite. These molecules are highly carcinogenic but they are also very common. They are a standard product of combustion from automobiles and airplanes and some (such as benzo[a]pyrene) are present in charcoal broiled hamburgers." Eating not breathing.

"carbon monoxide",(highly toxic because it interferes with the body's ability to transport oxygen through the blood to the body's cells.Exposure to carbon monoxide can result in a variety of symptoms from headaches, weakness, lethargy, nausea, confusion, disorientation and seizure to fatality. Persons with existing heart conditions may experience increased chest pain.

"cyanide"Well, we all know what that is.

"benzene and many others."
Numerous medical studies have confirmed that exposure to benzene causes leukaemia (blood cancer), depending on the dose and exposure levels.

Nevertheless numerous studies have recommended that exposure to benzene should be kept as low as possible and that ideally people should not be exposed to the chemical at all.

Safe, huh?

Kat








Myth: Marijuana is More Damaging to the Lungs Than Tobacco. Marijuana smokers are at a high risk of developing lung cancer, bronchitis, and emphysema.

Fact: Moderate smoking of marijuana appears to pose minimal danger to the lungs. Like tobacco smoke, marijuana smoke contains a number of irritants and carcinogens. But marijuana users typically smoke much less often than tobacco smokers, and over time, inhale much less smoke. As a result, the risk of serious lung damage should be lower in marijuana smokers. There have been no reports of lung cancer related solely to marijuana, and in a large study presented to the American Thoracic Society in 2006, even heavy users of smoked marijuana were found not to have any increased risk of lung cancer. Unlike heavy tobacco smokers, heavy marijuana smokers exhibit no obstruction of the lung's small airway. That indicates that people will not develop emphysema from smoking marijuana.

Center on Addiction and Substance Abuse. “Legalization: Panacea or Pandora’s Box.” New York. (1995): 36.
Turner, Carlton E. The Marijuana Controversy. Rockville: American Council for Drug Education, 1981.
Nahas, Gabriel G. and Nicholas A. Pace. Letter. “Marijuana as Chemotherapy Aid Poses Hazards.” New York Times 4 December 1993: A20.
Inaba, Darryl S. and William E. Cohen. Uppers, Downers, All-Arounders: Physical and Mental Effects of Psychoactive Drugs. 2nd ed. Ashland: CNS Productions, 1995. 174.



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Fri 04/03/09 06:44 AM
Myth: Marijuana's Harms Have Been Proved Scientifically. In the 1960s and 1970s, many people believed that marijuana was harmless. Today we know that marijuana is much more dangerous than previously believed.

Fact: In 1972, after reviewing the scientific evidence, the National Commission on Marihuana and Drug Abuse concluded that while marijuana was not entirely safe, its dangers had been grossly overstated. Since then, researchers have conducted thousands of studies of humans, animals, and cell cultures. None reveal any findings dramatically different from those described by the National Commission in 1972. In 1995, based on thirty years of scientific research editors of the British medical journal Lancet concluded that "the smoking of cannabis, even long term, is not harmful to health."

United States. National Commission on Marihuana and Drug Abuse. Marihuana: A signal of misunderstanding. Shafer Commission Report. Washington, D.C.: U.S. Government Printing Office, 1972.
“Deglamorising Cannabis.” Editorial. The Lancet 356:11(1995): 1241.

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Fri 04/03/09 10:42 AM

Myth: Marijuana's Harms Have Been Proved Scientifically. In the 1960s and 1970s, many people believed that marijuana was harmless. Today we know that marijuana is much more dangerous than previously believed.

Fact: In 1972, after reviewing the scientific evidence, the National Commission on Marihuana and Drug Abuse concluded that while marijuana was not entirely safe, its dangers had been grossly overstated. Since then, researchers have conducted thousands of studies of humans, animals, and cell cultures. None reveal any findings dramatically different from those described by the National Commission in 1972. In 1995, based on thirty years of scientific research editors of the British medical journal Lancet concluded that "the smoking of cannabis, even long term, is not harmful to health."

United States. National Commission on Marihuana and Drug Abuse. Marihuana: A signal of misunderstanding. Shafer Commission Report. Washington, D.C.: U.S. Government Printing Office, 1972.
“Deglamorising Cannabis.” Editorial. The Lancet 356:11(1995): 1241.



Myth?? That is just stupid to argue. It is fact. I am one who lives with it daily. I have pot lung. It is a bad thing. It is as a fungus. I was diagnosed with it in the mid nineties. It isn't anything associated with tobacco. It is from smoking pot to much too long.

Carry on soon to be sickly's. It's your lungs. But for me; I will fight any law as far as I have too...to keep it away from my family.
Not thinking I will if they want to find it; but they will know how it affected me and what I know about it.

Go ahead and try to legalize it...wait til you see your kids high and out there among the other druggies. Just you wait til you have to sit and worry over them.

Any parent who wants to see their kids get anywhere in this world will not want to see them high and wasting away on the couch or scouring the streets for a bag or joint. They need their brains. Not mushed up silly thoughts.

Kat

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Fri 04/03/09 12:53 PM
Smoking Pot May Damage Lungs
Long-Term, Regular Use of Marijuana May Impair Airflow, Study Shows
By Miranda Hitti
WebMD Health News
Reviewed by Louise Chang, MD

July 31, 2007 -- Smoking pot regularly may, over time, damage the lungs, a New Zealand study shows.

The researchers included Richard Beasley, MBChB, of the Medical Research Institute of New Zealand in Wellington.

They studied 339 New Zealand adults, including 75 people who only smoked pot, 91 who smoked pot and tobacco, 92 who only smoked tobacco, and 81 who didn't smoke pot or tobacco.

Participants took lung function tests, urine tests, got high-tech lung scans using CT scanning, and completed surveys about their smoking habits.

All of the pot smokers had regularly smoked marijuana for at least five years. All of the tobacco smokers had smoked cigarettes for at least one year. Their urine tests confirmed their use of tobacco or marijuana.

Pot is illegal in New Zealand, so participants were promised total anonymity. Those who used other illegal drugs were excluded from the study.

Beasley's team wanted to find out whether long-term marijuana use was, like tobacco, associated with increased risk of emphysema. It wasn't.

However, long-term marijuana use was linked to lung problems including coughing, wheeze, chest tightness, and airflow obstruction.

Beasley's team calculates that, in terms of airflow obstruction, one marijuana joint equaled the effect of smoking 2.5 to five cigarettes at once. The finding is "of major public health significance," write the researchers.

The results are likely due to differences between tobacco cigarettes and marijuana joints, note the researchers.

"Cannabis is usually smoked without a filter and to a shorter butt length, and the smoke [has] a higher temperature," write Beasley and colleagues, adding that people inhale deeper and hold their breath longer when smoking marijuana.

The study appears in the advance online edition of the journal Thorax.
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SOURCES: Aldington, S. Thorax, July 31, 2007; advance online edition. News release, BMJ.
© 2007 WebMD, Inc. All rights reserved.

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Fri 04/03/09 01:01 PM
Edited by Winx on Fri 04/03/09 01:03 PM
Myth: Marijuana Is Harmless
Reality: Marijuana Is Dangerous to the User

From Karen P. Tandy, DEA, for About.com

Created March 23, 2009

Compounding the problem is that the marijuana of today is not the marijuana of the baby boomers 30 years ago. Average THC levels rose from less than 1 percent in the mid-1970s to more than 8 percent in 2004. And the potency of B.C. Bud, a popular type of marijuana cultivated in British Columbia, Canada, is roughly twice the national average-ranging from 15 percent THC content to 20 percent or even higher.

Significant Health Problems
Smoking marijuana can cause significant health problems. Marijuana contains more than 400 chemicals, of which 60 are cannabinoids. Smoking a marijuana cigarette deposits about three to five times more tar into the lungs than one filtered tobacco cigarette.

Consequently, regular marijuana smokers suffer from many of the same health problems as tobacco smokers, such as chronic coughing and wheezing, chest colds, and chronic bronchitis. In fact, studies show that smoking three to four joints per day causes at least as much harm to the respiratory system as smoking a full pack of cigarettes every day.

Marijuana smoke also contains 50 to 70 percent more carcinogenic hydrocarbons than tobacco smoke and produces high levels of an enzyme that converts certain hydrocarbons into malignant cells.

http://alcoholism.about.com/od/pot/a/bldea050426_4.htm

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Fri 04/03/09 01:18 PM
Your going to take the advice of some doctors working in a third world country?

You got lung cancer?Why don't you take up smoking I think it will help. slaphead

Thanks but no thanks

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Fri 04/03/09 02:34 PM
You all can argue what you believe are facts.
I have all the proof that I need about the lungs and smoking weed.
I gave up cigarettes a little over two years ago after haveing repetitive problems with bronchitus, and an assortment of other problems.
I have not stopped smoking weed and my lungs and the rest of me, feel much healthier than they have in many years.
So believe all of the government propaganda that you want. I know what I know.


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Fri 04/03/09 06:56 PM


Myth: Marijuana's Harms Have Been Proved Scientifically. In the 1960s and 1970s, many people believed that marijuana was harmless. Today we know that marijuana is much more dangerous than previously believed.

Fact: In 1972, after reviewing the scientific evidence, the National Commission on Marihuana and Drug Abuse concluded that while marijuana was not entirely safe, its dangers had been grossly overstated. Since then, researchers have conducted thousands of studies of humans, animals, and cell cultures. None reveal any findings dramatically different from those described by the National Commission in 1972. In 1995, based on thirty years of scientific research editors of the British medical journal Lancet concluded that "the smoking of cannabis, even long term, is not harmful to health."

United States. National Commission on Marihuana and Drug Abuse. Marihuana: A signal of misunderstanding. Shafer Commission Report. Washington, D.C.: U.S. Government Printing Office, 1972.
“Deglamorising Cannabis.” Editorial. The Lancet 356:11(1995): 1241.



Myth?? That is just stupid to argue. It is fact. I am one who lives with it daily. I have pot lung. It is a bad thing. It is as a fungus. I was diagnosed with it in the mid nineties. It isn't anything associated with tobacco. It is from smoking pot to much too long.

Carry on soon to be sickly's. It's your lungs. But for me; I will fight any law as far as I have too...to keep it away from my family.
Not thinking I will if they want to find it; but they will know how it affected me and what I know about it.

Go ahead and try to legalize it...wait til you see your kids high and out there among the other druggies. Just you wait til you have to sit and worry over them.

Any parent who wants to see their kids get anywhere in this world will not want to see them high and wasting away on the couch or scouring the streets for a bag or joint. They need their brains. Not mushed up silly thoughts.

Kat


Wait, you're a cigarette smoker, with bad lungs, but you're blaming it on pot?

slaphead

Regardless of whether or not it's legal, there is the big risk that my kids could end up on these things, However, when legalized and regulated, the guy at the 7-11 is far more likely to card my kid and refuse to sell to him than say, the scumbag gang member dealing off the street corner.

Winx, I'm supposed to take the word of the DEA, whose very existance is completely dependant on the drug war, which in turn is dependant on Marijuana being illegal, to justify their arrest numbers so that they can continue to have budget increases. Tax dollars feeding a real addiction. It's like green paper heroin.

Taking the DEA's word... not likely for me.

Meanwhile, the New Tax on the poor, known as the Cigarette tax, ( numbers indicate that smokers by and large are poor and lower middle class) have increased the vast numbers of people being forced, by economic warfare, to quit. This is going to hugely effect yet another of our industries, destructive maybe, but an industry nonetheless, causing more unemployement, more market instability and our flat broke Central Government is going to lose more revenue all because they wanted to take advantage of someone's addiction.

Do you really think that Prohibition is effective, whether done out in the open or implied, as with the overwhelming cigarette tax?

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Fri 04/03/09 08:12 PM



Myth: Marijuana's Harms Have Been Proved Scientifically. In the 1960s and 1970s, many people believed that marijuana was harmless. Today we know that marijuana is much more dangerous than previously believed.

Fact: In 1972, after reviewing the scientific evidence, the National Commission on Marihuana and Drug Abuse concluded that while marijuana was not entirely safe, its dangers had been grossly overstated. Since then, researchers have conducted thousands of studies of humans, animals, and cell cultures. None reveal any findings dramatically different from those described by the National Commission in 1972. In 1995, based on thirty years of scientific research editors of the British medical journal Lancet concluded that "the smoking of cannabis, even long term, is not harmful to health."

United States. National Commission on Marihuana and Drug Abuse. Marihuana: A signal of misunderstanding. Shafer Commission Report. Washington, D.C.: U.S. Government Printing Office, 1972.
“Deglamorising Cannabis.” Editorial. The Lancet 356:11(1995): 1241.



Myth?? That is just stupid to argue. It is fact. I am one who lives with it daily. I have pot lung. It is a bad thing. It is as a fungus. I was diagnosed with it in the mid nineties. It isn't anything associated with tobacco. It is from smoking pot to much too long.

Carry on soon to be sickly's. It's your lungs. But for me; I will fight any law as far as I have too...to keep it away from my family.
Not thinking I will if they want to find it; but they will know how it affected me and what I know about it.

Go ahead and try to legalize it...wait til you see your kids high and out there among the other druggies. Just you wait til you have to sit and worry over them.

Any parent who wants to see their kids get anywhere in this world will not want to see them high and wasting away on the couch or scouring the streets for a bag or joint. They need their brains. Not mushed up silly thoughts.

Kat


Wait, you're a cigarette smoker, with bad lungs, but you're blaming it on pot?

slaphead

Regardless of whether or not it's legal, there is the big risk that my kids could end up on these things, However, when legalized and regulated, the guy at the 7-11 is far more likely to card my kid and refuse to sell to him than say, the scumbag gang member dealing off the street corner.

Winx, I'm supposed to take the word of the DEA, whose very existance is completely dependant on the drug war, which in turn is dependant on Marijuana being illegal, to justify their arrest numbers so that they can continue to have budget increases. Tax dollars feeding a real addiction. It's like green paper heroin.

Taking the DEA's word... not likely for me.

Meanwhile, the New Tax on the poor, known as the Cigarette tax, ( numbers indicate that smokers by and large are poor and lower middle class) have increased the vast numbers of people being forced, by economic warfare, to quit. This is going to hugely effect yet another of our industries, destructive maybe, but an industry nonetheless, causing more unemployement, more market instability and our flat broke Central Government is going to lose more revenue all because they wanted to take advantage of someone's addiction.

Do you really think that Prohibition is effective, whether done out in the open or implied, as with the overwhelming cigarette tax?


Cigarettes came in the middle or later part of the pot. The lung issue isn't associated with Cigs. It's an issue that comes from smoking pot. Another words...usually only seen with pot. Since I have quit smoking pot...I haven't had a flair up. When my lungs become enflamed...it is horrible. It is a fungus of sorts. The meds for it cost an overwhelming 1,000 dollars a month. Not cigarette tobacco related. Since I quit smoking pot..I have not had an anxiety attack.

Burn them lungs up people. The heat from pot is so much hotter. The chemicals are there and will do damage.

By the way...My last pack of cigs is sitting there on the table. I am poor. I cannot afford to smoke anything. So....good luck to me.
Good luck to you....I wish you well...hope for your good health.

Kat


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Fri 04/03/09 08:53 PM

Marijuana related, but not the cause of death. If I have too many coffee's, get jittery and cause a car wreck. I happen to die... is that a coffee related or caffiene related death?

You can argue all you want too. It is a medical record.

Ihave smoked for so many years.

I have had three anxiety attacks. I had no clue where they came from. First one I just kinda said "what the hell?" Why? The second one..kinda the same. The third one...well, I have been to the emergency room three times with these. Last two by ambulance. It wasn't til the third one that it was painfully obvious. I had smoked a little wit my sister and about half an hour later I was in an ambulance. They asked me straight up had I been smoking pot. I told them no, but it happened right after. It finally became clear to me these very scarey episodes were a direct response to smoking pot. That was some scarey sh-t. I thought I was having a heart attack. I couldn't breathe. They kept me in the hospital the last time. I have not had an episode since then. Now; I cannot say what killed any of these pot smikers...but I have seen people that went waaay off their cookie on pot. If this drug was so simple and safe for everyone...legality would be fine with me. But, it isn't. It affects people differently. I have seen it.

Why do you see a need to legalize it? You obviously smoke it now.

By the way....glad you can afford it.

I think one day and if you have kids and love them...you will see a new face on yourself. No good parent wants to see their kids grow up to be potheads. Nor do they want their kids to have that memory of them high while growing up. Because they do you know. They remember.

Kat


Technically that would be a caffeine related death! but i see your point.

I have had several anxiety attacks, and have likewise also taken myself to casualty thinking im having a heart attack. Once i learn that they were anxiety attacks, i havent had any more. Marijuana can send your heart racing, and if you start concerntrating on that, it gets worse. Now if that happens, i just ignore it and it goes away.

I dont really see a need to legalise it as such, the laws are reasonably relaxed in this country(UK). Just last week, there was a situation in which police came into where i was at, and knew we had been smoking weed and were in possession of it, they were not interested at all.

Drink affects people differently, so do cigarettes, so does absolutely everything. So that point is moot.

I am glad i can afford to smoke too. It costs about 300 bucks an ounce, which wont last me a month. At least if i ever need to save a load of cash i can just quit.

I dont really care if its legal or not. But it does annoy me when people get caught with a joint in the US and end up in prison. The punishment doesnt fit the crime at all.

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