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Topic: another anti-cancer/weed research topic
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Thu 04/02/09 02:44 PM
Marijuana helps in battle against cancer: study

AFP Published: Thursday April 2, 2009


The main chemical in marijuana appears to aid in the destruction of brain cancer cells, offering hope for future anti-cancer therapies, researchers in Spain wrote in a study released Thursday.

The authors from the Complutense University in Madrid, working with scientists from other universities, found that the active component of marijuana, tetrahydrocannabinol (THC), causes cancer cells to undergo a process called autophagy -- the breakdown that occurs when the cell essentially self-digests.

The research, which appears in the April edition of US-published Journal of Clinical Investigation, demonstrates that THC and related "cannabinoids" appear to be "a new family of potential antitumoral agent."

The authors wrote that the chemical may prove useful in the development of future "antitumoral agents."

The scientists conducted their research on mice, first stimulating the growth of cancer in the lab animals, then injecting them with a daily dose of THC near the site of their tumors.

The researchers also analyzed the tumors of two patients in an experimental trial looking at the effects of THC on a highly aggressive form of brain tumor, and saw findings "in line with the preclinical evidence" first observed in the laboratory mice.





Creekfreek's photo
Thu 04/02/09 02:57 PM
Here is a link to a guy that has been using cannabis oil to cure cancer in himself and others successfully.
http://www.phoenixtears.ca/
Make sure you watch the movie Run From The Cure located on his page.
And why is this stuff illegal anyway?????


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Thu 04/02/09 03:01 PM

very interesting indeed..i formed my own hypothesis and have concluded that what is happening in fact is that the cells develop what is commonly known as "the munchies"..and since there are no "munchies"..they eat themselves...scientifically speaking of course....laughrofl

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Thu 04/02/09 03:02 PM
I was gonna post a comment here but I'm just too stoned

Dan99's photo
Thu 04/02/09 03:03 PM
I was under the impression that it was more likely to give you cancer than to cure it.

warmachine's photo
Thu 04/02/09 03:03 PM
oops laugh

warmachine's photo
Thu 04/02/09 03:06 PM

I was under the impression that it was more likely to give you cancer than to cure it.


That's the misconception.

While smoking pot produces carcinogens (lets be real, you're inhaling burning material), if you use a vaporizer, you get no smoke, all the benefits. Now, even if you're smoking it the Tommy Chong way, you're still getting massive doses of the Cannabinoids, which kill of cancer sells. Sort of a self defeating cancer treatment, where you put more poison in your body, to get rid of the poison... Not really unlike Chemo, but far more fun.



Creekfreek's photo
Thu 04/02/09 03:12 PM

I was under the impression that it was more likely to give you cancer than to cure it.


Thats what they want you to think.
Do some research and you will find many medical and general health benefits from this plant.

Dan99's photo
Thu 04/02/09 03:17 PM
Well if this is actually correct it is great news, i smoke it daily(and nightly).

I might have to start smoking more! lol.


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Thu 04/02/09 04:27 PM
Edited by scttrbrain on Thu 04/02/09 04:28 PM
The mental and behavioral effects of marijuana can vary widely among individuals, but common responses are;
(1) Dizziness, nausea, tachycardia, facial flushing, dry mouth and tremor can occur initially

(2) Merriment, happiness and even exhilaration at high doses

(3) Disinhibition, relaxation, increased sociability, and talkativeness

(4) Enhanced sensory perception, giving rise to increased appreciation of music, art and touch

(5) Heightened imagination leading to a subjective sense of increased creativity

(6) Time distortions

(7) Illusions, delusions and hallucinations are rare "except at high doses"

(8) Impaired judgement, reduced co-ordination and ataxia, which can impede driving ability or lead to an increase in risk-taking behavior

(9) Emotional lability, incongruity of affect, dysphoria, disorganized thinking, inability to converse logically, agitation, paranoia, confusion, restlessness, anxiety, drowsiness and panic attacks may occur, especially in inexperienced users or in those who have taken a large dose

(10) Increased appetite and short-term memory impairment are common”

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Effects of Prenatal Exposure

“The impact of in utero marijuana exposure on a series of cognitive tasks had been studied in children at different stages of development. Differences in several cognitive domains distinguished the 4-year-old children of heavy marijuana users. In particular, memory and verbal measures were negatively associated with maternal marijuana use (Fried and Watkinson, 1987). Maternal marijuana use was predictive of poorer performance on abstract/visual reasoning tasks, although it was not associated with an overall lowered IQ in 3-year old children (Griffith et al., 1994). At 6 years of age, prenatal marijuana history was associated with an increase in omission errors on a vigilance task, possibly reflecting a deficit in sustained attention, was noted (Fried et al., 1992). Recently, it had been speculated that prenatal exposure may affect certain behaviors and cognitive abilities that fall under the construct termed executive function, that is, not associated with measures of global intelligence. It was postulated that when tests evaluate novel problem-solving abilities as contrasted to knowledge, there is an association between executive function and intelligence. In a recent study (Fried et al., 1998), the effect of prenatal exposure in 9-12 year old children was analyzed, and similarly to what was shown in other age groups, in utero marijuana exposure was negatively associated with executive function tasks that require impulse control, visual analysis and hypothesis testing and it was not associated with global intelligence.”

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Hospital Emergency Room Overdoses

Marijuana use is frequently mentioned in hospital emergency room drug overdose visits. The rate for marijuana is about half that for cocaine, about the same as for heroin/morphine, but is twice the rates for common household painkillers aspirin/acetaminophen and for benzodiazepine depressants such as Xanax and Valium.

While marijuana typically had been used with another drug, particularly alcohol and cocaine, in 1999 marijuana use as a single drug did account for 22% of the marijuana emergency room incidents. By way of comparison, single use of cocaine and heroin accounted for 29% and 47% of the cocaine and heroin episodes, respectively.

Kat

data reported by medical examiners show that out of 664 marijuana-related deaths, there were 187 deaths where marijuana was the only drug reported.

no photo
Thu 04/02/09 04:33 PM
Edited by Unknow on Thu 04/02/09 04:34 PM
How about over the counter meds????? How many liver diseases can be attributed to them? Tylenol is the worst!@!!

warmachine's photo
Thu 04/02/09 04:43 PM

The mental and behavioral effects of marijuana can vary widely among individuals, but common responses are;
(1) Dizziness, nausea, tachycardia, facial flushing, dry mouth and tremor can occur initially

(2) Merriment, happiness and even exhilaration at high doses

(3) Disinhibition, relaxation, increased sociability, and talkativeness

(4) Enhanced sensory perception, giving rise to increased appreciation of music, art and touch

(5) Heightened imagination leading to a subjective sense of increased creativity

(6) Time distortions

(7) Illusions, delusions and hallucinations are rare "except at high doses"

(8) Impaired judgement, reduced co-ordination and ataxia, which can impede driving ability or lead to an increase in risk-taking behavior

(9) Emotional lability, incongruity of affect, dysphoria, disorganized thinking, inability to converse logically, agitation, paranoia, confusion, restlessness, anxiety, drowsiness and panic attacks may occur, especially in inexperienced users or in those who have taken a large dose

(10) Increased appetite and short-term memory impairment are common”

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Effects of Prenatal Exposure

“The impact of in utero marijuana exposure on a series of cognitive tasks had been studied in children at different stages of development. Differences in several cognitive domains distinguished the 4-year-old children of heavy marijuana users. In particular, memory and verbal measures were negatively associated with maternal marijuana use (Fried and Watkinson, 1987). Maternal marijuana use was predictive of poorer performance on abstract/visual reasoning tasks, although it was not associated with an overall lowered IQ in 3-year old children (Griffith et al., 1994). At 6 years of age, prenatal marijuana history was associated with an increase in omission errors on a vigilance task, possibly reflecting a deficit in sustained attention, was noted (Fried et al., 1992). Recently, it had been speculated that prenatal exposure may affect certain behaviors and cognitive abilities that fall under the construct termed executive function, that is, not associated with measures of global intelligence. It was postulated that when tests evaluate novel problem-solving abilities as contrasted to knowledge, there is an association between executive function and intelligence. In a recent study (Fried et al., 1998), the effect of prenatal exposure in 9-12 year old children was analyzed, and similarly to what was shown in other age groups, in utero marijuana exposure was negatively associated with executive function tasks that require impulse control, visual analysis and hypothesis testing and it was not associated with global intelligence.”

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Hospital Emergency Room Overdoses

Marijuana use is frequently mentioned in hospital emergency room drug overdose visits. The rate for marijuana is about half that for cocaine, about the same as for heroin/morphine, but is twice the rates for common household painkillers aspirin/acetaminophen and for benzodiazepine depressants such as Xanax and Valium.

While marijuana typically had been used with another drug, particularly alcohol and cocaine, in 1999 marijuana use as a single drug did account for 22% of the marijuana emergency room incidents. By way of comparison, single use of cocaine and heroin accounted for 29% and 47% of the cocaine and heroin episodes, respectively.

Kat

data reported by medical examiners show that out of 664 marijuana-related deaths, there were 187 deaths where marijuana was the only drug reported.




Show me those cases. I posted a ton of references stating the opposite in the Norm Stamper thread. Where are these "Marijuana deaths".

As far as using weed while pregnant, are also not supposed to smoke, drink, use a abundance of caffiene either?
Double standard to use maternal use as a reason to keep pot illegal. If weed is to be illegal for this reason, then you need to ban all those other things. In fact, all the reasons listed to keep it illegal are a double standard, if you compare it to those "legal" things. Except none of those "legal" things comes with the potential to benefit our Nation, it's economic, physical and emotional health.

scttrbrain's photo
Thu 04/02/09 05:06 PM
Edited by scttrbrain on Thu 04/02/09 05:07 PM


The mental and behavioral effects of marijuana can vary widely among individuals, but common responses are;
(1) Dizziness, nausea, tachycardia, facial flushing, dry mouth and tremor can occur initially

(2) Merriment, happiness and even exhilaration at high doses

(3) Disinhibition, relaxation, increased sociability, and talkativeness

(4) Enhanced sensory perception, giving rise to increased appreciation of music, art and touch

(5) Heightened imagination leading to a subjective sense of increased creativity

(6) Time distortions

(7) Illusions, delusions and hallucinations are rare "except at high doses"

(8) Impaired judgement, reduced co-ordination and ataxia, which can impede driving ability or lead to an increase in risk-taking behavior

(9) Emotional lability, incongruity of affect, dysphoria, disorganized thinking, inability to converse logically, agitation, paranoia, confusion, restlessness, anxiety, drowsiness and panic attacks may occur, especially in inexperienced users or in those who have taken a large dose

(10) Increased appetite and short-term memory impairment are common”

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Effects of Prenatal Exposure

“The impact of in utero marijuana exposure on a series of cognitive tasks had been studied in children at different stages of development. Differences in several cognitive domains distinguished the 4-year-old children of heavy marijuana users. In particular, memory and verbal measures were negatively associated with maternal marijuana use (Fried and Watkinson, 1987). Maternal marijuana use was predictive of poorer performance on abstract/visual reasoning tasks, although it was not associated with an overall lowered IQ in 3-year old children (Griffith et al., 1994). At 6 years of age, prenatal marijuana history was associated with an increase in omission errors on a vigilance task, possibly reflecting a deficit in sustained attention, was noted (Fried et al., 1992). Recently, it had been speculated that prenatal exposure may affect certain behaviors and cognitive abilities that fall under the construct termed executive function, that is, not associated with measures of global intelligence. It was postulated that when tests evaluate novel problem-solving abilities as contrasted to knowledge, there is an association between executive function and intelligence. In a recent study (Fried et al., 1998), the effect of prenatal exposure in 9-12 year old children was analyzed, and similarly to what was shown in other age groups, in utero marijuana exposure was negatively associated with executive function tasks that require impulse control, visual analysis and hypothesis testing and it was not associated with global intelligence.”

******************************

Hospital Emergency Room Overdoses

Marijuana use is frequently mentioned in hospital emergency room drug overdose visits. The rate for marijuana is about half that for cocaine, about the same as for heroin/morphine, but is twice the rates for common household painkillers aspirin/acetaminophen and for benzodiazepine depressants such as Xanax and Valium.

While marijuana typically had been used with another drug, particularly alcohol and cocaine, in 1999 marijuana use as a single drug did account for 22% of the marijuana emergency room incidents. By way of comparison, single use of cocaine and heroin accounted for 29% and 47% of the cocaine and heroin episodes, respectively.

Kat

data reported by medical examiners show that out of 664 marijuana-related deaths, there were 187 deaths where marijuana was the only drug reported.




Show me those cases. I posted a ton of references stating the opposite in the Norm Stamper thread. Where are these "Marijuana deaths".

As far as using weed while pregnant, are also not supposed to smoke, drink, use a abundance of caffiene either?
Double standard to use maternal use as a reason to keep pot illegal. If weed is to be illegal for this reason, then you need to ban all those other things. In fact, all the reasons listed to keep it illegal are a double standard, if you compare it to those "legal" things. Except none of those "legal" things comes with the potential to benefit our Nation, it's economic, physical and emotional health.


Come on now; how come you are not seeing that weed is used by pregnant women? Weed is used by so many people in the US that is scarey to even think about. Why on earth does humans think they need to be high?? What is so wrong with natural and clean?

A co-worker came to me today and was crying. I asked what was wrong. She told me she caught her 17 year old son smoking pot. She was sobbing horribly. She knows where it is heading if she cannot find a way to his heart...his mind. She knows all too well the ramifications of smoking pot. She did 5 years for it. she also knows what it did to her mentally and emotionally. She is AFRAID FOR HER SON!!!! Wonder why that is?? She is a pot smoker from waaaay back. She has been clean for a little over 5 years. She understands what this means. If it was such a safe drug...why on earth are mothers and some dads so afraid of their kids using it?

Kat

scttrbrain's photo
Thu 04/02/09 05:08 PM
And don't bring up the legal thing with me. It isn't the law she is afraid of here. It is the use of pot.

Kat

warmachine's photo
Thu 04/02/09 05:15 PM



The mental and behavioral effects of marijuana can vary widely among individuals, but common responses are;
(1) Dizziness, nausea, tachycardia, facial flushing, dry mouth and tremor can occur initially

(2) Merriment, happiness and even exhilaration at high doses

(3) Disinhibition, relaxation, increased sociability, and talkativeness

(4) Enhanced sensory perception, giving rise to increased appreciation of music, art and touch

(5) Heightened imagination leading to a subjective sense of increased creativity

(6) Time distortions

(7) Illusions, delusions and hallucinations are rare "except at high doses"

(8) Impaired judgement, reduced co-ordination and ataxia, which can impede driving ability or lead to an increase in risk-taking behavior

(9) Emotional lability, incongruity of affect, dysphoria, disorganized thinking, inability to converse logically, agitation, paranoia, confusion, restlessness, anxiety, drowsiness and panic attacks may occur, especially in inexperienced users or in those who have taken a large dose

(10) Increased appetite and short-term memory impairment are common”

******************************

Effects of Prenatal Exposure

“The impact of in utero marijuana exposure on a series of cognitive tasks had been studied in children at different stages of development. Differences in several cognitive domains distinguished the 4-year-old children of heavy marijuana users. In particular, memory and verbal measures were negatively associated with maternal marijuana use (Fried and Watkinson, 1987). Maternal marijuana use was predictive of poorer performance on abstract/visual reasoning tasks, although it was not associated with an overall lowered IQ in 3-year old children (Griffith et al., 1994). At 6 years of age, prenatal marijuana history was associated with an increase in omission errors on a vigilance task, possibly reflecting a deficit in sustained attention, was noted (Fried et al., 1992). Recently, it had been speculated that prenatal exposure may affect certain behaviors and cognitive abilities that fall under the construct termed executive function, that is, not associated with measures of global intelligence. It was postulated that when tests evaluate novel problem-solving abilities as contrasted to knowledge, there is an association between executive function and intelligence. In a recent study (Fried et al., 1998), the effect of prenatal exposure in 9-12 year old children was analyzed, and similarly to what was shown in other age groups, in utero marijuana exposure was negatively associated with executive function tasks that require impulse control, visual analysis and hypothesis testing and it was not associated with global intelligence.”

******************************

Hospital Emergency Room Overdoses

Marijuana use is frequently mentioned in hospital emergency room drug overdose visits. The rate for marijuana is about half that for cocaine, about the same as for heroin/morphine, but is twice the rates for common household painkillers aspirin/acetaminophen and for benzodiazepine depressants such as Xanax and Valium.

While marijuana typically had been used with another drug, particularly alcohol and cocaine, in 1999 marijuana use as a single drug did account for 22% of the marijuana emergency room incidents. By way of comparison, single use of cocaine and heroin accounted for 29% and 47% of the cocaine and heroin episodes, respectively.

Kat

data reported by medical examiners show that out of 664 marijuana-related deaths, there were 187 deaths where marijuana was the only drug reported.




Show me those cases. I posted a ton of references stating the opposite in the Norm Stamper thread. Where are these "Marijuana deaths".

As far as using weed while pregnant, are also not supposed to smoke, drink, use a abundance of caffiene either?
Double standard to use maternal use as a reason to keep pot illegal. If weed is to be illegal for this reason, then you need to ban all those other things. In fact, all the reasons listed to keep it illegal are a double standard, if you compare it to those "legal" things. Except none of those "legal" things comes with the potential to benefit our Nation, it's economic, physical and emotional health.


Come on now; how come you are not seeing that weed is used by pregnant women? Weed is used by so many people in the US that is scarey to even think about. Why on earth does humans think they need to be high?? What is so wrong with natural and clean?

A co-worker came to me today and was crying. I asked what was wrong. She told me she caught her 17 year old son smoking pot. She was sobbing horribly. She knows where it is heading if she cannot find a way to his heart...his mind. She knows all too well the ramifications of smoking pot. She did 5 years for it. she also knows what it did to her mentally and emotionally. She is AFRAID FOR HER SON!!!! Wonder why that is?? She is a pot smoker from waaaay back. She has been clean for a little over 5 years. She understands what this means. If it was such a safe drug...why on earth are mothers and some dads so afraid of their kids using it?

Kat


Ummm, who said they aren't using it? I merely pointed out that there are dozens if not hundreds of things that are "legal" that women also use that can damage them and they're unborn. Where's the moral hazard for the use or overuse of Caffiene or Alcohol?

Why are some parents so frightened of it, wash the brain, I suppose, it makes no sense to me and I used back in the day myself, with nothing more than a bit of a spare tire from all the munchies.

I notice that you choose to speak for her when you stated "And don't bring up the legal thing with me. It isn't the law she is afraid of here. It is the use of pot."
Quite simply, some people have had their sensibilities towards something thats pretty harmless, while those things that have huge side effects, extremely harmful consequences somehow doesn't provoke the same knee jerk response. Why is that do you think?

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Thu 04/02/09 05:29 PM
I spoke for her because I had a very long talk with her after I got off work. She is afraid for him to start smoking it. She knows how it affects the mind. She knows how it makes people lazy and a devil may care attitude. She knows how it gives a false sense of the world.
She knows...she said these things to me. I do not really care if you do not believe me. (yes I do) I care a lot. I am 54, she is 44. She has been a pot smoker for years. Her fear is that he will be what she was when she smoked.

Kat

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Thu 04/02/09 05:38 PM
Same as me. My heart broke when I found out my oldest was smoking it. I cried. He makes me proud when he tells me he has put it to rest. I believe he still partakes once in awhile. I cannot prove it..but a mother with my background knows. Am I in fear? Yes. Do I worry about his health? Yes. Pot ruined my lungs. Then I started smoking cigs. Smart huh? Yeah, well..a drug is a drug is a drug. Now if I can just put them down...Maybe I will be a little better off.
They both hated me when I was high...hell they all did.

When I found out my youngest tried it...it killed my soul. I will be drug free for the rest of my life to show them I am a keeper of my word. Worthy of their pride.

Tylenol has been proven to cause liver damage..yes...in large doses. Keep it moderate...I do not take them but maybe a dozen times a year.

Pot has been proven to cause tumors. Pot has been proven to be a gateway drug in 37% of young people who smoke it.

Listen..I know too darn many people who do and have been tokers. Most of them have quit. Most tell a different story than they did when they were using.
Kat

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Thu 04/02/09 06:19 PM
Proven to cause cancer?

Yet my post from the medical research shows that it eliminates cancers.

Proven to be a gateway drug? It didn't do that for me, and that's all about making a choice. Gateway's a$$, it's just an excuse and that excuse is just one more rip off of a reason why the Drug haters choose to keep pushing for weed to remain illegal. For Christs sake, Weed is rated on the same scale as Cocaine? Are you kidding me?

As far as the speaking for her, I wanted to see if that statement was something you assumed or something she said directly to you.

Is moderation not the key for everything? Too much Vitamin C will kill you, should we make Oranges illegal now? It just doesn't make any sense and the entire war on drugs hinges on being able to keep Weed illegal, otherwise, they aren't going to be able to justify the huge amounts of Tax dollars thrown into the abyss of the Drug War.

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Thu 04/02/09 06:23 PM




data reported by medical examiners show that out of 664 marijuana-related deaths, there were 187 deaths where marijuana was the only drug reported.



I am so sorry but I have to call total BS on this.
The amount of marijuana it would take to be a lethal dose is way more than anyone could even come close to consuming.
This is nothing more than propaganda designed to put fear in then people who dont know how to think for themselves.


warmachine's photo
Thu 04/02/09 06:34 PM
When you allow Government to regulate or even bar personal choice in one area, then you find yourself powerless to stop as they move to another and another and another, as you have played a part in setting the precedence.

Tobacco regulation approved by House

Posted April 2, 2009 5:15 PM

by Rebecca Cole

The House today voted to give the Food and Drug Administration unprecedented powers to regulate the tobacco industry, after years of crusading by anti-smoking groups for the government to exert more control.

The measure would allow the FDA to reject new tobacco products, restrict advertising and take other steps. It passed easily, 298 to 112, but may face a filibuster in the Senate.

"This is truly a historic day in the fight against tobacco, and I am proud that we have taken such decisive action," said Rep. Henry Waxman (D-Calif.), chairman of the House Energy and Commerce Committee, in a statement.

Since 2000, when the Supreme Court ruled that the FDA did not have the authority to regulate tobacco products, Waxman and Sen. Edward Kennedy (D-Mass.) have taken turns submitting legislation to bring those products under the agency's control.

A similar bill Waxman introduced last year also passed the House, but it languished in a Senate subcommittee after then-President George W. Bush vowed to veto it.

Now, with the backing of President Obama -- whose own struggles to quit smoking are well documented -- the measure stands a better chance of becoming law, advocates hope.


However, senators from some tobacco-growing states are already lining up to oppose it, with Sen. Richard Burr (R-N.C.) threatening a filibuster.

If signed into law, the bill would give the FDA wide-ranging control over tobacco products, including the elimination of harmful additives and flavorings, regulation of nicotine levels, and the ability to prohibit healthy-sounding terms like "light" and "mild" in product descriptions.

While the bill does not let the FDA ban tobacco products or nicotine outright, it was endorsed by the leaders of several major public health groups. They included the American Medical Association, the American Lung Association and the Campaign for Tobacco-Free Kids.


http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2009/04/tobacco_regulation_approved_by.html

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