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what a cute lil tike... is that when you was a young un??? you must have that one saved in your pc, as you got that up awful quick, lol... your the best water, whether you see it in other's or not. find that, and one find the prize, that cure all lonliness??? peace until the golden sunset in the heart be found. Thank you davidben. Don't ever change. I love your posts even if I get a little confuzzled by them at times. |
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don't make me cry man...
it shall get tougher each day, as the world move into a new dawn, a new day, to shake the illusions of the mind, that whisper first all things are bad, but the courage of the infinite pure hearts of mankind rise up, and grab hold of the true amazing humanity that is within, that convert all things dark into light, and hearts shine forth as a new beacon, and bring forth love within mankind as never seen before, and the diversity that once looked like moral less, is turned to bliss ful ness. peace to peace you to man. |
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paternity leave to be with their newly born baby???  
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paternity leave to be with their newly born baby??? My answer would be yes, bonding is just as important for a father as a mother. |
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I've taken a week of vacation when each of my children were born. I would not expect them to pay me for paternity leave. They don't even give paid maternity leave to the mother here.
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I've taken a week of vacation when each of my children were born. I would not expect them to pay me for paternity leave. They don't even give paid maternity leave to the mother here. Cool. But it should be paid, atleast for mothers', why not ? |
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Only certain companies actually offer paid maternity leave for expectant mothers. Others offer up to 12 weeks of unpaid leave.
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The Family Medical Leave Act of 1993 has provisions of up to 12 weeks of job protected leave, whether paid or unpaid for events such as birth, adoption, qualifying illness or injury.
FMLA can be used by both father and mother in the event of the birth of a child. |
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I've taken a week of vacation when each of my children were born. I would not expect them to pay me for paternity leave. They don't even give paid maternity leave to the mother here. Cool. But it should be paid, atleast for mothers', why not ? I don't see the logic in companies providing paid leave for a woman to have a baby. It is not their responsibility nor did they have any say in it. I'm ok with the family leave act guaranteeing leave for women and men after a birth, but I don't see any reason a company should be required to pay for it for either. |
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I've taken a week of vacation when each of my children were born. I would not expect them to pay me for paternity leave. They don't even give paid maternity leave to the mother here. Cool. But it should be paid, atleast for mothers', why not ? I don't see the logic in companies providing paid leave for a woman to have a baby. It is not their responsibility nor did they have any say in it. I'm ok with the family leave act guaranteeing leave for women and men after a birth, but I don't see any reason a company should be required to pay for it for either. On the normal, most companies don't - there are companies that do but I've yet to work for one  I hear California does offer paid maternity/paternity leaves. * The Family & Medical Leave Act (FMLA) allows ”eligible” employees to take off up to 12 work weeks in any 12 month period for the birth or adoption of a child, to care for a family member, or if the employee themselves has serious health condition. * An “eligible” employee is an employee who has been employed by the employer for a least 12 months and worked at least 1,250 hours. The 12 months do not need to be consecutive. You are only an “eligible” employee if your employer employs 50 or more employees within 75 miles of the worksite. |
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I think that they should if the company can afford it.
Newborns are a handfull, to say the least. And who's to say that that little one doesn't need to bond with daddy too? And this from experience, NOTHING buys you favor from the old lady like "Honey, you take the day off and go shopping I'll stay home and watch (your babys name here)". |
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paternity leave to be with their newly born baby???  They do in a lot of other countries
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if one does not expect or demand anything to believe in itself, but more believe's in other's, than to describe the reason's for any "logic", is most out of respect and admiration of other's, as telling "depends on the situation", says nothing as to why leaving it to "depends" is beneficial, and says nothing of what "proposed" things this can or could achieve??? out of the infinite reasons for writing, why do you choose it as attempted "impressive", as to me it is just my ignorant notions, with nothing impressive about it in the least bit, lol... if such things as this can annoy, would not this make many things annoy, and annoy would become envoked within, anytime there is seen or heard, anything that does not match the exact mind of the perciever??? would not this lead to the mind simply playing mind "match cards", self simply looking for what is like itself, so forfieting the opportunity add to itself, more than just what two eye's see??? the expanse of the eye's, some calling this insight, or broad sight, or empathy, or seeing thru other's shoe's, is directly proportionate to the amount of words self prove to itself are meaningful??? if this is not done, would not this make the world a smaller place in the perception, smaller each day, and restrict freedom within to embrace the beauty of the world, and the profound beauty of diversity, that is not as less because it is different, as most it is this exact same things that expand the mind the most, and increase the perception to more than self itself already is, or has seen, as the more good value one finds in words, is in the eye of the beholder, just as the ability to find less good value in words is in the eye of the beholder??? since all your words were seen as true, and meaningful, you have allowed and afforded me to expand my perception, and for this dear friend, i thank you... peace man Evidently someone took my humor the wrong way. This wasn't meant to be a personal attack on you. As I said it was just my opinion and I was curious (really, not just saying it) if you speak the same way you write. And yes, in MY opinion, it's slightly annonying. But that doesn't mean I expect you to change because of my opinion. By all means, to do so would be pretty sad. Anyway, I'm done with the off-topic junk... On topic! Here where I work the men get 2 weeks off. You can extend that further with FMLA if you wish. I think it's a great idea for the fathers to have the time off. Especially if it's their first child. It's a new experience and everyone should get some extra time to enjoy it. |
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paternity leave to be with their newly born baby??? I have always believed that the maturnity/paternity leave should be shared between parents. If mom wants to take the first two weeks and then go in for a while and dad can have two weeks off to be with the baby or something along those lines. It would work out well and give dad time to bond with the baby. the issue i have with this idea is that, while dad needs to bond, he can't breast-feed. nor does his body need to heal from the rigors of pregnancy and childbirth. i do, however, feel that our country's maternity/paternity leave laws suck. men DO deserve time off to spend with their family at such a time, to participate in the rituals of the newborn. there are countries out there with AMAZING maternity/paternity leaves; we should catch up a bit. |
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I think yes if the state your in does this for the mom as well. Many dads want to be there in the new days of life. It is important to the mom to have dad there for a while to help her get some rest and help around the house. Mt son does this. He made sure he scheduled his vacation or sick days according to the birth. He is an amazing dad. He helps his wife so much and diapers and bathes and feeds his children. She would save breast milk so he could take care of Pierce while she could sleep or go out and have some "me" time.
Yes, dad should have paternity leave to help. As long as that is what he uses it for. Kat |
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Edited by
Pink_lady
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Tue 03/31/09 10:14 AM
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Here in the UK, Men get 2 weeks paternity time, and quite rightly so. The first few weeks of a babies life is a crucial time for bonding....its also a common fact that men feel pushed away in the early weeks from mum, so i think its very important to have both mum AND dad around initially, while settling into a new family unit. Dad can be supportive to mum, and help out with baby, afterall, the baby is his responsibility too, and the likelihood is he will want to be involved. Who r we (as women) to say that it is only us that can manage the baby? and only us that should have time off?
Were not living in the dark ages anymore, where women had and raised the children while dad earned a crust. Fathers r becoming more hands on than they have ever been. Men deserve to experience the first couple of weeks with their own baby just as much as the mothers. the issue i have with this idea is that, while dad needs to bond, he can't breast-feed. nor does his body need to heal from the rigors of pregnancy and childbirth. No, but the mother can express her milk, and he can feed. Also, if mums body needs to heal, who else should she trust if not her own childs father, to watch baby while she rests? |
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Edited by
tngxl65
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Tue 03/31/09 10:25 AM
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Here in the UK, Men get 2 weeks paternity time, and quite rightly so. The first few weeks of a babies life is a crucial time for bonding....its also a common fact that men feel pushed away in the early weeks from mum, so i think its very important to have both mum AND dad around initially, while settling into a new family unit. Dad can be supportive to mum, and help out with baby, afterall, the baby is his responsibility too, and the likelihood is he will want to be involved. Who r we (as women) to say that it is only us that can manage the baby? and only us that should have time off? Were not living in the dark ages anymore, where women had and raised the children while dad earned a crust. Fathers r becoming more hands on than they have ever been. Men deserve to experience the first couple of weeks with their own baby just as much as the mothers. Is it paid leave? Or just guaranteed leave? |
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Here in the UK, Men get 2 weeks paternity time, and quite rightly so. The first few weeks of a babies life is a crucial time for bonding....its also a common fact that men feel pushed away in the early weeks from mum, so i think its very important to have both mum AND dad around initially, while settling into a new family unit. Dad can be supportive to mum, and help out with baby, afterall, the baby is his responsibility too, and the likelihood is he will want to be involved. Who r we (as women) to say that it is only us that can manage the baby? and only us that should have time off? Were not living in the dark ages anymore, where women had and raised the children while dad earned a crust. Fathers r becoming more hands on than they have ever been. Men deserve to experience the first couple of weeks with their own baby just as much as the mothers. Is it paid leave? Or just guaranteed leave? Are you entitled to paid statutory paternity leave? To qualify for paternity pay and leave you must be an ‘employee’. If you are a ‘worker’ you will not qualify for leave but may qualify for paternity pay. * Are you a 'worker', 'employee' or 'self-employed'? You can take statutory paternity leave if you: * are an employee, with a contract of employment * have been with your employer for at least 26 weeks by the end of the 15th week before the start of the week when the baby's due; or by the end of the week in which you are notified of being matched with your child * will be fully involved in the child's upbringing and are taking the time off to support the mother or care for the baby You must also be either the: * biological father of the child * mother's husband or partner (including same-sex relationships) * child's adopter or the partner of the adopter To qualify for pay you must also earn at least the lower earnings limit (LEL) for National Insurance contributions. If you earn less than the LEL, (currently £90 a week), you have the right to unpaid paternity leave if you meet the other conditions, and could get Income Support while on paternity leave. If you are not an employee, but are an agency worker, office holder or subcontractor, you will not normally have the right to paternity leave, but may be eligible for pay if you meet the other qualifying criteria. Taken from here ->http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Parents/Moneyandworkentitlements/WorkAndFamilies/Paternityrightsintheworkplace/DG_10029398 |
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You must also be either the: * biological father of the child * mother's husband or partner (including same-sex relationships) * child's adopter or the partner of the adopter Even gay partners can get paternity leave. |
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