Which sun?

Damn-you are dark today, Lex.

Iz -- I'm working on it -- needs a little fine-tuning, right now it only
works on goats. Thing about goats, you can hypnotize them all day long,
and you really don't get that much out of it....

But Purple is yours once the thing gets out of Beta....

Sony tried Beta-never worked out.

Of course-I still use 8-tracks...

lex.. nuls is right.. think you spent tomuch time in the suun... the
last time i hypnotized a goat he just looked at me like i was made of
tin cans n then he bit me.. so i un hypnotized him...



that was better, he only bit me once that time..

This is actually an X-Ray, they were trying to find where that little
hotel from Monopoly got to after I inhaled it.

Motivational speaker named Klemmer does a thing very like this color
thing. Take 100 people stand at one end of room, everyone has to walk
across room in a different way. Makes you think, get out of your box &
do things different. anyone interested contact me & I'll pass on some
info.

We are all a product of our education & thought process.
To change, we must change our thought pattern

8-track? I wish -- my car has the 7-track. Somehow there are never any
drums.

thanks sage...




y x ray tho?? cant it be more gammaish??

izzie wrote:
“yep. n my favorite color is purple, n my moms is blue.. but what if
they are the same color?? we just perceive them differently??”

This is absolutely true. No one can ever know how someone else
perceives things.

I was got into an argument with a philosopher over something like this.
We were actually talking about mathematics, but our conversation turned
to the concept of color. Then he started talking about a green bottle.
And that green is a property of the bottle. I tried to explain to him
that the bottle has no color, color has to do with light. The bottle
only appears to be ‘green’ when we shine pure white light on it. If we
shine ultraviolet light on it it appears to be a differnet color,
perhaps purple.

My point was that color is a property of light, not of the object. This
was the great discovery of Isaac Newton.

Then we continued on to argue what is green or purple, etc. And that
what I appear to see as ‘green’ he may perceive as ‘purple’. Well,
he’s absolutely correct. Who can know how we perceive things?

However, from a scientific point of view we can actually measure the
frequency of light that enters our eyes. I shine a particular
frequency (color) of light into everyone’s eyes and say, “This is blue”.
Everyone agrees to call that experience ‘blue’. So everyone will always
refer to that frequency of light as being blue.

But did they all actually perceive the same ‘color’. Who knows? No one
can know. Fortunately, for the sake of science it doesn’t matter. All
that matters for science is that we all agree to measure the frequency
of light in the same way. Whether we have the same experience of that
frequency is irrelevant to science.

But as you point out, it’s an interesting philosophical question to
ponder. A question that, as humans, we can never know the answer to. I
often think about things like this. These are truly unanswerable
questions. I don’t see how we could ever know the answer.

My guess is that we probably don’t perceive colors the same. At least
not precisely in the same way. Although I also believe that we probably
do perceive them similarly. I’ve spent most of my life working on
automatic systems (robotics in one form or another). So I’ve dealt
with robotic sensors. Ironically this situation actually comes up in
robots. When we build ‘sensors’ in to robots they always need to be
calibrated. Since physical systems are never perfect, no to ‘sensors’
will ever sense things in precisely the same way. In fact, when working
with multiple ‘identical’ robots we used to laugh and say, “That robot
senses the world differently than this one”. We could see this in
their differnet reactions to the same stimulus. They had precisely the
same ‘brains’ (computer programs). Therefore any differences they
exhibited must be due to the different ways that their sensors perceived
things.

In fact, I had actually confirmed that by switching the sensors back and
forth between to robots. They definitely responded differently with the
differnet sensors.

Ultimately our bodies are indeed biological robots. Our eyes, and
retinas and nervous systems are all slightly differnet (calibrated
differently). Not to mention that our computers (brains) have also
grown slightly differently from each others. So it is actually highly
unlikely that any two people perceive color, or sound, or anything in
precisely the same way. Although, having said that, we are still built
very similarly overall, so while the precise calibrations are off, the
overall experience is similar.

So yes, we probably do all perceive color differently.

Gammaish was the leader of the lost tribe of the kodak that developed
the dry emulsion method of soaking papyrus in llama spit, hanging it by
the light of the new moon, and then cutting it into itty, bitty sqaures
for driver license photographs.

That's how my Gamma made quilts.

thanks abra!!makes me feel better..


gammaish... are you sure.... i thought he was the guy who walked
thousands of miles to get llama spit from the lost tribe of daba... to
make the drink that killes the horrible disease of gramnd..

i could be wrong tho...
or same guy??

Gilgamesh is often called "Gammaish" by people eating peanut butter.

ooohhh.. that coulda been the problem then... *note to self.. dont talk
to the ferries if tehy have been eating peanut butter*

ok note taken...

I am confused...

welcome to my world sis... welcome to my world..

"Go to sleep now, Izzie, and the Peanut Butter Fairy will come and visit
you in the middle of the night and leave you a jar of Skippy. And some
valuable coupons."

((( IZ)))

yea!! lex that one is my favorite.. red headed sister of the tooth
fairy.. hehe













thanks glenn....

Miss ya babe.