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Topic: Are you 55 or over? No? Good! Pay Attention:
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Fri 03/20/09 09:08 AM
Edited by nogames39 on Fri 03/20/09 09:10 AM
Yet another nicely written article from Gary North.

If you're 55 or over, and you haven't saved enough, God help you. If you're under 55, pay attention and do something about it. If you keep trusting that someone, somewhere will do something to insure you your retirement, you're going to be surprised.

We have run socialism in USA since 1913. That is a long time, by anyone (breathing) standards. Now, it is the time to pay the piper. Socialism always destroys the souls of young and the pockets of old. Everywhere, without any exception, where it was ever practiced.

Thankfully, the arguments about how good the socialism is, will soon be over, - everyone who believed in it will have an opportunity to taste it. I don't expect them to admit they were wrong. Weak and dishonest never do, and those are the types that support socialism. Instead, I expect them to say "This is the result of too much capitalism, and not enough of socialism", as they always do. I can't help them with that denial problem.




Retirement Living in Elkhart, Indiana


by Gary North



In early February, President Obama was looking for a place to symbolize the recession. He wanted to rally support for his proposed $800 billion bailout of the economy, a bailout that he admitted would send the Federal government's annual deficit to $1.7 trillion in fiscal 2010.

He chose Elkhart, Indiana, which advertises itself as the recreation vehicle capital of America, and hence the world. Elkhart's economy has collapsed. There is 15% unemployment and no hope in sight.

For years, the RV industry grew. The scene in About Schmidt was representative. The retired middle manager bought an RV for his retirement. Then his wife died. He went out on the open road by himself. He went back to his home town. Nothing remained of the places he remembered.

This industry is today representative of the profound economic breakdown we are experiencing. This is not business as usual. The industry is close to collapse.

In 2005, the Indiana Business Magazine ran a story: "On a roll? What's behind the dramatic growth of Indiana's RV industry? Baby Boomers buying vs. higher fuel costs." It reflected the final year of Greenspan's decade-long bubble economy. Like California housing, the RV industry seemed to levitate high above economic rationality.

It would seem like the past few years should have been tough on the recreation-vehicle business. The economy was in recession for a time and sluggish even longer, and gas prices have been moving ever-upward, which would seem like a poor climate for selling expensive discretionary items that don't exactly sip gas. Yet the RV industry – which is centered in Indiana – in recent years has enjoyed dramatic growth. And as sales have grown, Indiana's share of the business has increased as well.

These words now seem as realistic as a real estate salesman's promise to some young couple that paying ten times annual income for a house was a good bet. The home would appreciate.

The article reported that in 2004, RV manufacturers shipped 370,000 units. Of these, 236,000 were made in Indiana. The article quoted Dennis Harney, executive director of the Recreation Vehicle Indiana Council and the Indiana Manufactured Housing Association.

"The RV industry directly employs nearly 20,000 people and indirectly employs another 20,000," he says, adding that most of the jobs pay well. "The RV industry enjoys a lack of competition from foreign producers – very few RVs are imported from competing nations. Although we're a quiet industry and the business is distributed among a number of manufacturers, there are many states that would relish the opportunity to have an industry like this."

Not these days.

He went on to say, "I think it's a critical industry for the state that's enjoying growth. I think the future is very, very bright for the industry."

Fast forward to November 2008. The RV Dealers Association sent out a press release in the form of a letter to President-elect Obama. It was a plea for a government bailout.

There are an estimated 12,332 RV-related businesses in the nation with combined revenues of $37.5 billion in 2006, including a combined payroll of nearly $5 billion for American workers in the manufacturing, retail and service sectors – employment which, as with boating, totals some 150,000. One out of every 12 American households owns an RV – a category that ranges from inexpensive pop-up tent campers to large, self-propelled motorhomes. Today, there are 8.5 million RVs in operation.

It noted that Elkhart, Indiana, had the highest unemployment rate in the nation. It still does.

Banks had ceased lending on RVs, the letter said. I wonder why. Here is a product whose largest market share is people age 55 and older. The recession is cutting into their income. The falling stock market is cutting into their retirement portfolios.

Consider the economics of an RV. Like any vehicle, RVs depreciate rapidly. They are consumer goods. They are not capital goods.

They cost a lot to operate. Gasoline is only part of it. There are maintenance expenses. Also, they suffer from competition from the used RV market.

No one needs an RV. Anyone can get into a car and drive to a vacation spot. He can pay retail for a motel, eat fast food, and fish for two weeks. Then he can go home. The cost will be far less than the depreciation of an RV plus 6 miles per gallon. The economics of the RV have little to do with efficiency. It has to do with lifestyle.

There lies the rub.

A LOST LIFESTYLE

Over the last 18 months, Americans over age 55 have suffered a reversal in their capital that has not fully registered psychologically. They will not be able to afford a comfortable retirement.

This was true 18 months ago, just less obvious. Very few Americans enjoy a combination of private pensions, annuities, and Social Security payments sufficient to fund what Social Security says retirees need: at least 70% of their pre-retirement income in the last year of employment. They are oblivious to this assessment on the Social Security website.

Today, about half of all workers are covered under an employer-sponsored pension, and many people are not saving as much as they should. While Social Security replaces about 40 percent of the average worker's pre-retirement earnings, most financial advisors say that you will need 70 percent or more of pre-retirement earnings to live comfortably. Even with a pension, you will still need to save. If you will not have a private pension, you will need to save more – and start saving sooner.

Yet throughout Greenspan's bubble economy, the savings rate of American households fell, going negative in 2005. The boom fooled Americans who owned stocks that they were getting richer. They weren't. They were merely benefitting from the greater fool theory of investing. That theory has brought down the real estate bubble. There will be further declines. It has ended the stock market mania. And it has just about shut down Elkhart, Indiana.

Americans have not yet recognized what has been done to them by the Federal Reserve System and the highly leveraged banks and hedge funds that thought the good ship Effortless Wealth had come into port. The hot-shots did not understand Ludwig von Mises' theory of the business cycle as the product of central bank monetary inflation. They never saw it coming.

Now the investors who believe the same dream, but without multimillion dollar severance deals, have seen their dreams called into question.

They have not yet dumped their stocks. They have just stopped buying as many. The fall of 55% by the Dow and the S&P 500 was not accompanied by a huge sell-off. The decline has been one of dribbling away. The dreams of would-be retirees have not yet been smashed. They have merely dribbled away. The crash has not yet come. It will.

STAGES OF DECEPTION

First, there is a dream: easy prosperity. This dream is funded by fiat money. Next, there is a boom: easy prosperity. This boom is funded by fiat money. Next, there is reality: the stabilization of fiat money. Next, there is recession: the end of the dream.

Then what?

In the conventional scenario, there is recovery. But recovery since Greenspan arrived as chairman in October 1987 has always been based in more fiat money. That was his solution to the 22% one-day fall in the stock market in 1987. That was his solution to Bush I's recession in 1991. That was his response to the recession of 2001 and 9-11. Again and again, fiat money solved the problem. It brought back the recovery.

It is not working this time. The federal funds rate is at 0%. The economy is still falling. The Federal deficit is headed toward $2 trillion a year. No recovery is visible.

When recovery comes, it will be accompanied by price inflation on a scale never seen in peacetime America. Those who rely on pension payments and annuities will see their income shrink. They will be the primary victims.

The target market of the RV industry will be the victims of the recovery's familiar solution: fiat money. They will remain the victims for the foreseeable future.

The people at CNBC do not see this yet. The high-paid hot shots on Wall Street who lost their jobs may suspect that the gravy train has gone off the rails, but what can they do about it? They are trained in high finance, and high finance is now an appendage of the Federal government. The era of salaries has replaced the era of stock options and bonuses. The Democrats have vowed that the old days will not return. I don't think the Republicans are likely to run on a platform to bring back the world that ended in 2008.

When they run on a platform to end Medicare, I will be impressed. In 2016 or 2017, and maybe earlier, Medicare goes into the red. At that point, political reality will meet actuarial reality. There will be an inter-generational pile-up. The geezers will lose. They won't have the votes in Congress.

People over 55 today will spend their golden years in the equivalent of Elkhart, Indiana.

YUPPIE RESTAURANTS

Drive up Main Street in your town. All over America, Main Street – where people drive at 4 p.m. – is the same: Lowe's, Home Depot, Office Max, Office Depot, Wal-Mart, McDonald's, Burger King, Taco Bell, Chili's, and T.G.I. Friday. Wal-Mart is doing well. It is the place that sells what people really need, and it sells it cheap. McDonald's stock price has held up. Like Wal-Mart, it sells cheap.

Fast food saves time and is addictive: high fat. People want it, and it does not cost much. But yuppie restaurants that sell lifestyle are headed for trouble. People don't have to go to them. They offer atmosphere, but it's expensive. It's not like the neighborhood tavern, which rests on friendship. It's ersatz community. Television screens with no sound are all over the walls, often tuned to different sports events. Silent sports are ersatz sports.

If I were advising a fund manager on what to sell, it would be any company whose income relies on restaurants with silent TVs. There are no TVs at McDonald's and Taco Bell. Those places make it on volume. There is no community. They get you in and move you out. Only the playgrounds for children keep anyone there for long. Nobody takes his wife to a fast food restaurant for a romantic evening. He may take her so that she can get a break from the day's routine. That incentive will keep fast food restaurants solvent after the yuppie restaurants have closed.

Liquor sales keep yuppie restaurants going, but liquor by the drink is expensive. If someone wants to drink, he can do it at home cheaper.

The crunch will come. The yuppie restaurants have survived so far, but they will face the reality of discretionary income. It's shrinking, and it's beginning to go into savings. The more fearful Americans become, the higher the percentage of discretionary income they will save.

CONCLUSION

We have not yet seen real fear. We will. We have not yet seen Main Street in the condition that it has become in Elkhart, Indiana. We will.

President Obama told Elkhart that he had not forgotten the city. I suspect that by now, he has. The photo op is over. The bailout was passed. The economy is falling. The least of his concerns – and yours – is the fate of a city that bet its future on the RV industry.

In every recession, there are permanent victims. The RV industry is the poster child as this recession's permanent victim. The industry is finished. Its target market – retirees and people who dream of becoming retirees – is also a permanent victim. The dream of freedom, permanent income, no job, no kids at home, and the open road was nice while it lasted, but it's over for most people. As they die or get shipped off to retirement homes, their children will sell the old folks' RVs for pennies on the dollar. The supply of used RVs will be strong for the next decade.

Elkhart, Indiana is the symbol of the boom gone bust.

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Fri 03/20/09 09:29 AM
I think I need to clarify something for those concerned.

Money in the bank are NOT savings. for two reasons:

1 - Dollars are NOT money.
2 - If you actually happen to have MONEY in the bank of a socialist country, read on 1933.

This should also make it clear, that Dollars in the mattress are NOT savings either. Because, of (1) above. Dollars are the Notes of the Federal Reserve, and as such, are shares of the Fiat Monetary System.
Therefore, the value of dollars, is dependent on that system wellbeing, just as it is the case with any other shares.

The Fiat system is a primary requirement of socialism. Why? Because, in socialism, no one can be allowed to have money.

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Fri 03/20/09 09:30 AM
what about bonds? i have a reason for asking this. i'll be the first to admit i don't know alot about this junk

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Fri 03/20/09 09:38 AM
Bonds are not money. They are the shares the Government. More precisely, they represent the ability of the government to tax their subjects successfully.

Do you know why bonds (and other such instruments) are considered to be the most safe? Because to pay them back, the government needs only to print more notes.

Read "the full faith of" line critically, and you will see what it really means. You'll have nothing, but "the faith".

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Fri 03/20/09 09:40 AM
so bonds ARE a safe savings plan?

Drivinmenutz's photo
Fri 03/20/09 10:31 AM

so bonds ARE a safe savings plan?


Give me all your money. I'll keep it safe...bigsmile

yellowrose10's photo
Fri 03/20/09 10:32 AM


so bonds ARE a safe savings plan?


Give me all your money. I'll keep it safe...bigsmile


laugh i said i don't know a lot about it....not that i'm GULLIBLE lmao

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Fri 03/20/09 10:50 AM
Nope. Because, they are shares into something, they are therefore an investment, not savings.

If you want to have an investment, then you are accepting that the correctness of your conclusions will determine your well being. This is very risky proposition, just as they say the greater the risk, the greater the reward.

If you are not so sure of your own ability to foresee the results of complicated affairs, then you should stick with savings.

Savings, are simply piles of money, that one accumulate during the years that one is able to make more than required to sustain oneself.

So, savings is pile of money. Bonds are not money, thus bonds are not savings.


You're asking questions. That means, you care and think. How many people blindly follow the government advise? A majority.

It is disgusting, how the government does everything possible to misinform those who are unable to figure it out for themselves. It guides them exactly to their ruins, and hides what is so important for them to know.

Remember the statement I have made to no one personally, and you have objected? It is not my place to decide, who is smart enough to figure it out, and who is not, so that they shall follow the justice. May-be you are smart enough to make a decision. At least, you do ask questions. In any case, it is up to you, where you belong.

But remember, the other side of my statement is that those who consider themselves smart enough to make decisions based on their own considerations, shall and will bear the responsibility for their conclusions, but not for their faith. And conversely, those who stayed faithful to the principle of justice, shall and will be responsible only for their faithful adherence to justice, and not for their calculations.

The object of their faith, therefore, becomes their primary weakness. This, supposed to be addressed, and founding fathers did address this issue.

A hones government for the people, helps not those who decide for themselves, but those who bound by just morals. Such government hears their plea, and recognizes that not all are born lucky enough to be able to outsmart the rest. Therefore it gives to them, by upholding the justice, and teaching on what is the right thing to do. With knowledge of good morals, and having good character so that they can follow the moral code, then, those "poor" will be alright.

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Fri 03/20/09 10:59 AM
my evil side is asking the questions lol

so you think bonds will fail??? and no i'm not giving money to drivin either. that wouldn't be any better than giving money to fanta and madison lol

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Fri 03/20/09 11:07 AM

my evil side is asking the questions lol

so you think bonds will fail??? and no i'm not giving money to drivin either. that wouldn't be any better than giving money to fanta and madison lol


LOL, are you willing to accept the consequences of my considerations?

You're soo goofyflowerforyou

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Fri 03/20/09 11:09 AM
Edited by yellowrose10 on Fri 03/20/09 11:14 AM


my evil side is asking the questions lol

so you think bonds will fail??? and no i'm not giving money to drivin either. that wouldn't be any better than giving money to fanta and madison lol


LOL, are you willing to accept the consequences of my considerations?

You're soo goofyflowerforyou


oh hush...but really - will bonds fail? the people that put money into them....will they lose their money

yellowrose10's photo
Fri 03/20/09 11:13 AM
walk with me - talk with me people

nogames39's photo
Fri 03/20/09 11:24 AM
Rose, I love this new old picture. Stick to it.

As for the bonds.... yes.

yellowrose10's photo
Fri 03/20/09 11:27 AM

Rose, I love this new old picture. Stick to it.

As for the bonds.... yes.


laugh ok....are you trying to mess with my head??? i'm on pain meds. yes to what?

ty///i did the picture myself

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Fri 03/20/09 11:30 AM
Edited by nogames39 on Fri 03/20/09 11:31 AM


Rose, I love this new old picture. Stick to it.

As for the bonds.... yes.


laugh ok....are you trying to mess with my head??? i'm on pain meds. yes to what?

ty///i did the picture myself


It would be irresponsible for me to give you an answer. If you are on medications, you should stick to savings. Don't risk it.

If you risk and win, you will win something that may not even make you happier.

If you risk and lose, you lose everything.

yellowrose10's photo
Fri 03/20/09 11:34 AM
i don't have bonds myself. i know someone that swears on them is why i'm asking

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Fri 03/20/09 11:36 AM
...those who consider themselves smart enough to make decisions based on their own considerations, shall and will bear the responsibility for their conclusions, but not for their faith...

We can only help those who want to be helped.

yellowrose10's photo
Fri 03/20/09 11:37 AM
i'm just gonna sit here and watch

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Fri 03/20/09 03:54 PM

Yet another nicely written article from Gary North.

If you're 55 or over, and you haven't saved enough, God help you. If you're under 55, pay attention and do something about it. If you keep trusting that someone, somewhere will do something to insure you your retirement, you're going to be surprised.

We have run socialism in USA since 1913. That is a long time, by anyone (breathing) standards. Now, it is the time to pay the piper. Socialism always destroys the souls of young and the pockets of old. Everywhere, without any exception, where it was ever practiced.

<snippage>



NoGames,

You _do_ know that North is a Christian Reconstructionist (son-in-law of R.J. Rushdooney, the quintessential Reconstructionist) and a Calvinist who predicted (wrongly) the Y2k collapse? And that he makes his living predicting doom and gloom for oh these last few decades?

Do you think the country would be better off under Chrisitan Reconstuctionists? Going back to Puritannical roots?

What's North's track record? From my perspective, not very good.

And as to the unrestrained Capitalism, do you really want people like AIG to get their paws on the People's Social Security trust fund? See, I don't think people like North have a very accurate Magic Eight Ball because their ideology completely shrouds their judgement and when your business _is_ the decimination of ideology, it's like a man with a hammer-everything looks like a nail.

One thing I find lacking in his and your arguments are that who do you think funds the young entrepreneurs? Most aren't born into money, so they have to get it somewhere, and that typically has been people over 55 who _have_ made their money and park it in places heavily regulated by the government and backstopped by things like the FDIC.

What you call socialism is really no more than the economic version of a capacitor in an electronic circuit-- it buffers out the spikes and protects people at least partially from the periodic Extraordinary Madness of the Crowds that make up the putative Free Market people like Gary North worship.

Think about it...


-Kerry O.

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Fri 03/20/09 05:31 PM
I say not thanks to his guy, but there is lots to read about his views and interpretation of the Bible:

Is capitalism Christian?

It is not sufficient to answer that the ethics of Christianity is generally in accordance with the ethics of capitalism. It is not sufficient to appeal to natural law in the Christian West as the foundation of capitalism. What must be asked is a far more controversial question: Is orthodox, Bible-based Christianity inherently capitalistic? In other words, in cultures where the Bible is preached from Genesis to Revelation, will there be an innate tendency for that culture to adopt a free market economy? Therefore, is socialism inherently heretical biblically?

Gary North answers "yes."

As secular humanism has steadily expanded its influence over the thinking of the West, especially the thinking of the intellectuals, the assault on free market capitalism has escalated. Humanism's denial of God's providence, God's law, and God's redeeming grace has created faith in a New World Order, a world in which elite central planners will direct a world-wide economic system. This is the society of Satan.

The Sinai Strategy is a detailed look at the Ten Commandments and their social, political, and, especially, economic implication. These commandments set forth a strategy of dominion. The war between capitalism and socialism is ultimately a war between God and Satan. Far too many compromised Christians have not recognized the nature of this ethical and institutional war, and they have sided with the socialists. Dr. North has drawn the dividing line between the humanists and the Christians, and between Christians themselves. Will it be God's law or Satan's, Christ's New World Order (inaugurated at Calvary) or Satan's New World Order (scheduled for the year 2000)?

http://www.entrewave.com/freebooks/docs/2102_47e.htm

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