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Topic: WHY?
grneyedldy1967's photo
Sat 03/14/09 08:00 AM

I think it's way too easy in this day and age to give up at the first sign of a problem. I've heard too many stories about how relationships end because neither person is willing to nut up and say 'Hey, there's a problem, let's deal with it". Instead they let it go, allowing it to build and build until one day a sock on the floor ends in an arguement that ends in court with divorce papers.
Communication, loyalty, a willingness to admit when you're wrong and fix the problem makes it a good relationship. Men and Women are both guilty.
Having gone through this myself not too long ago, I get it. My ex should have talked to me about how he was feeling, instead he just gave up and threw in the towel. Without talking about it, without coming to me, nothing..he just gave up.
Relationships are hard work, anything worth having is. There is no way anyone can say they don't or won't argue with their S.O., get real. OF COURSE you're going to bicker. Mutual respect may help keep it to a minimum but it's going to happen.
It's easy in the beginning with the first flush of affection, lust and then love to say it's going to be wonderful all day every day. Trials and tribulations will make or break a relationship, how you deal with them will make or break it.
Just my thoughts.
Not all men are lieing, cheating low down jerks, and not all women are low down sluts either. Past relationships will not dictate to me how I deal with a current one. I take what I can from the things that happened, learn my lessons and apply that knowledge and hard earned wisdom to keep me from re-making mistakes.


VERY well said! flowerforyou

gerowulf's photo
Sat 03/14/09 08:01 AM
Kindred!! you are so right about it.I could not say it better.flowerforyou

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Sat 03/14/09 08:03 AM

I think it's way too easy in this day and age to give up at the first sign of a problem. I've heard too many stories about how relationships end because neither person is willing to nut up and say 'Hey, there's a problem, let's deal with it". Instead they let it go, allowing it to build and build until one day a sock on the floor ends in an arguement that ends in court with divorce papers.
Communication, loyalty, a willingness to admit when you're wrong and fix the problem makes it a good relationship. Men and Women are both guilty.
Having gone through this myself not too long ago, I get it. My ex should have talked to me about how he was feeling, instead he just gave up and threw in the towel. Without talking about it, without coming to me, nothing..he just gave up.
Relationships are hard work, anything worth having is. There is no way anyone can say they don't or won't argue with their S.O., get real. OF COURSE you're going to bicker. Mutual respect may help keep it to a minimum but it's going to happen.
It's easy in the beginning with the first flush of affection, lust and then love to say it's going to be wonderful all day every day. Trials and tribulations will make or break a relationship, how you deal with them will make or break it.
Just my thoughts.
Not all men are lieing, cheating low down jerks, and not all women are low down sluts either. Past relationships will not dictate to me how I deal with a current one. I take what I can from the things that happened, learn my lessons and apply that knowledge and hard earned wisdom to keep me from re-making mistakes.


Very well put.. It does take two and open , honest about all things, communication.. I laughed about the sock on the floor thing. Most men and women just quit rather then work at a relationship .I too have learned some hard lessons. But now? who ever it is I will have in my life now? Well,she will be very plesently surprised! you have to be adaptable and forgiving not hold things in.

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Sun 03/15/09 09:01 AM
Yes, yes you do. Forgiveness...why does that seem like such a hard thing sometimes? The old saying forgive and forget...well let's be honest, have you ever forgotten being hurt by someone you cared about? I don't think so. We struggle to forgive, it seems to be natural to hold grudges for some. I have a very good friend, she's like a sister to me, and she'll freely admit that letting go of the pain is very difficult for her.
I think if we're being honest, there is no forgetting, and sometimes there isn't any real forgiveness either. That settles down into our hearts and rots us from the inside out until one day we blow up.
I, myself, have worked hard throughout my adult life to find my faults and faulty concepts and overcome them. I can freely admit I don't forget, but I do work reallllllllllly really hard to forgive when the apology comes, whether it's a heartfelt one or a half hearted one.
I think we could use a little more forgiveness in all our lives :)
Hope y'all have a fantastic day!!

FETTS61's photo
Sun 03/15/09 09:03 AM
yet another form of man bashing.....good day

Peccy's photo
Sun 03/15/09 09:07 AM

yet another form of man bashing.....good day
and the woman is completely innocent in this right? "All the good men are married" and "My husband is terrible" only confirms one thing. You can NEVER fully satisfy a woman! IMO of course.....lol

BonnyMiss's photo
Sun 03/15/09 09:17 AM
What is the right person? A marriage or partnership may not be as unified and joyous as the couple wishes it was. A husband and wife or live in partner may not have the physical, emotional, and spiritual unity that they desire. But even in this instance, the husband and wife or common-law partners are still soul mates. A couple in such a situation need to work on developing the “right person.” The “right person/soul mate” concept is often used as an excuse for divorce or parting of the ways. People who are unhappy in their marriage or common-law partnership sometimes claim that they did not marry or choose their soul mate/partner, and therefore should cease being with each other and begin the search for their true soul mate. This is nothing more than an excuse, a blatantly unbiblical excuse......Of course there are exceptions to the rules,e.g. partners cheating, being phisically or mentally abusevie etc,etc.This is applicapble to both sexes............ JMHO

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Sun 03/15/09 09:22 AM

yet another form of man bashing.....good day



This thread reminds me of the joke I've posted on several occasions. I think it is about that time again.



A store that sells new husbands has just opened in New York City , where a woman may go to choose a husband. Among the instructions at the entrance is a description of how the store operates:

You may visit this store ONLY ONCE! There are six floors and the value of the products increase as the shopper ascends the flights. The shopper may choose any item from a particular floor, or may choose to go up to the next floor, but you cannot go back down except to exit the building!

So, a woman goes to the Husband Store to find a husband. On the first floor the sign on the door reads:

Floor 1 - These men Have Jobs.

She is intrigued, but continues to the second floor, where the sign reads:

Floor 2 - These men Have Jobs and Love Kids.

"That's nice", she thinks, "but I want more."
So she continues upward.

The third floor sign reads:

Floor 3 - These men Have Jobs, Love Kids, and are Extremely Good Looking.
"Wow," she thinks, but feels compelled to keep going.

She goes to the fourth floor and the sign reads:

Floor 4 - These men Have Jobs, Love Kids, are Drop-dead Good Looking and Help With Housework.

"Oh, mercy me!" she exclaims, "I can hardly stand it!"

Still, she goes to the fifth floor and the sign reads:

Floor 5 - These men Have Jobs, Love Kids, are Drop-dead Gorgeous, Help with Housework, and Have a Strong Romantic Streak.

She is so tempted to stay, but she goes to the sixth floor, where the sign reads:

Floor 6 - You are visitor 31,456,012 to this floor. There are no men on this floor This floor exists solely as proof that women are impossible to please. Thank you for shopping at the Husband Store.

PLEASE NOTE:

To avoid gender bias charges, the store's owner opened a New Wives store just across the street.
The first floor has wives that love sex.
The second floor has wives that love sex and have money.
The third, fourth, fifth and sixth floors have never been visited

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Sun 03/15/09 11:34 AM

Single women complain that all good men are married, while all married women complain about their lousy husbands.Is this confirms that there is no such thing as a good man?

Yes...

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Sun 03/15/09 11:45 AM
Aww I don't think all the good guys are taken, married or gay. Nobody is perfect, man or woman. I have had a few relationships but I still believe that Mr. Right For Me is out there. I don't hate or bash men, nor do I lump them all together. Not every relationship of mine ended badly, some just ended. I've met some very charming men, guys with good hearts, guys with good manners. I'm waiting for the one that resonates with my heart, the one that makes me go "WOW!!" Hopefully some day we'll meet and he'll have the same reaction "WOW!!"

TxsGal3333's photo
Sun 03/15/09 11:55 AM

Single women complain that all good men are married, while all married women complain about their lousy husbands.Is this confirms that there is no such thing as a good man?



Lmao, actually the way I see this is those that say that most likely were the ones that were married at one time and said that about their spouse regardless if they are male or female thinking this way.

Therefore no matter if that person is with someone or not they will never be happy with what they have. Because they are always wanting more and can not see what they have before them.

scoundrel's photo
Sun 03/15/09 11:57 AM
On the one hand, I don't care if there are no OTHER good men...just that belonging together with :heart: her :heart: I become her good man.

On the other hand, I enjoy women believing that most available men are not good, because that belief can inspire :heart: her :heart: to feel more happiness to have gotten a rare mate.

In the end, shouldn't we each feel such happiness; that our mate is truly rare and increasingly special to us, more so than for any other person in the world?

penlgrif's photo
Sun 03/15/09 12:15 PM
Edited by penlgrif on Sun 03/15/09 01:01 PM
Well...it's because the ones we hear complaining are the ones it's not working for. There ARE happily married people...I know some! There are also some happily UNmarried people! In life, the squeaky cog always gets the grease...if there's no reason to squeak.....

Peccy's photo
Sun 03/15/09 12:38 PM
Edited by Peccy on Sun 03/15/09 12:44 PM

Well...it's because the ones we hear complaining are the ones it's not working for. There ARE happily maried people...I know some! There are also some happily UNmarried people! In life, the squeaky cog always gets the grease...if there's no reason to squeak.....
got yer metaphors mixed up squeaky wheel gets the grease, hard to roll on cogs seeing as how they are on the inside of a wheel and don't move!....lol...just giving u a hard time!..lol

penlgrif's photo
Sun 03/15/09 01:01 PM


Well...it's because the ones we hear complaining are the ones it's not working for. There ARE happily maried people...I know some! There are also some happily UNmarried people! In life, the squeaky cog always gets the grease...if there's no reason to squeak.....
got yer metaphors mixed up squeaky wheel gets the grease, hard to roll on cogs seeing as how they are on the inside of a wheel and don't move!....lol...just giving u a hard time!..lol

Damn you, Peccy! Why, oh why are you always right????? LOL!
<<Loves mixing metaphors.....it becomes an artform after a while....
flowerforyou

Theshortelktonman's photo
Sun 03/15/09 02:08 PM
I don't really believe there are good or bad women out there it is up to us as individuals to sacrifice and make due with what life gives us as a mate when we decide we finally want to settle down with someone and make the most with what we got. The problem comes with those of us who can't make due with anything less than the Idea of this "perfect" "good man/woman" they have and thus get frustrated in there monotinous unsatisfaction with the opposite sex.

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