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Topic: The rich suffer under the Bush economy!
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Wed 03/11/09 08:57 PM
The trickle down effect didnt even trickle up!!!



World's richest not so rich, Gates regains top spot


NEW YORK (Reuters) – Microsoft Corp founder Bill Gates is the richest man again, overtaking investor Warren Buffett, as the global financial meltdown wiped out $2 trillion from the net worth of the world's billionaires, Forbes Magazine said on Wednesday.

The number of billionaires in the world fell by nearly a third to 793 in the past year, with large numbers dropping off the list in Russia, India and Turkey.

Gates regained his title as the richest man in the world, with $40 billion after slipping to third last year when he was worth $58 billion. Buffett, last year's richest man, fell to second place with $37 billion, down from $62 billion. Mexican telecommunications tycoon Carlos Slim took third place with $35 billion, down from $60 billion.

Collectively, the top three billionaires lost $68 billion in the year to February 13, when Forbes took a snapshot of wealth around the world to compile its annual list of billionaires.

Chief Executive of Forbes Magazines Steve Forbes said that, while few would shed a tear for the plight of a billionaire, it was bad for the economy when entrepreneurs were in trouble.

"Billionaires don't have to worry about their next meal, but if their wealth is declining and you're not creating numerous new billionaires, it means the rest of the world is not doing very well," he told reporters. "The typical billionaire is down at least one third on their net worth."

The net worth of the world's billionaires fell from $4.4 trillion to $2.4 trillion, while the number of billionaires was down to 793 from 1,125.

"It's the first time since 2003 that we have lost billionaires, but we've never before lost anywhere near this number," said Luisa Kroll, senior editor of Forbes.

"It's really hard to find something to cheer about unless you get some perverse pleasure in realizing that some of the most successful ... people in the world ... can't figure out this global economic turmoil better than the rest of us."

New York City replaced Moscow as home to the most billionaires, with 55. Russia, which saw the number of super- rich soar in recent years, suffered among the biggest shocks, with the number of billionaires down to 32 from 87.

WHAT GOES UP FAST, COMES DOWN FAST

Other developing countries that saw fast growth in previous years were hit hard as well, including Turkey, where the number of billionaires fell to 13 from 35, partly due to the collapse in the value of the lira currency, and India.

Indian businessman Anil Ambani, the biggest gainer on last year's list, was the biggest loser this time, with $32 billion wiped out over the last 12 months. Ranked sixth last year, he fell to 34 with an estimated wealth of $10.1 billion.

"India took a huge whack," Kroll said, noting that last year Indians held four of the top 10 spots and now only two, and the number of Indian billionaires more than halved to 24.

Of those who remained or returned to the list, 656 saw their net worth fall, 52 held even and only 44 managed to expand their wealth.

The only person in the top 20 who did not lose money was New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg, whose net worth was revised up to $16 billion from $11.5 billion because of a revaluation of his media company, Bloomberg LP, Forbes said. He is now the richest man in New York, jumping from 65 in the world to 17.

Forbes Senior Editor Matthew Miller said that, in the current climate, those who lost only 20 percent of their wealth were doing relatively well; for example members of the Walton family which founded discount retailer Wal-Mart Stores Inc.

"They lost $5 billion each, but Wal-Mart stock hasn't completely fallen off the cliff like everything else," he said.

Another discount retailer riding out the storm was Japan's Tadashi Yanai. His firm Fast Retailing, known for its Uniqlo stores, helped push him from 296th last year to 76th and raised his net wealth to $6 billion from $3.6 billion.

Others who managed to get richer were investors George Soros and Ronald Perelman, as well as short-seller John Paulson, who has profited from the fall in financial stocks, and entertainer Oprah Winfrey who jumped to 234 from 462.

Among those conspicuous by their absence from the list was Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg, one of last year's stars when he became the youngest self-made billionaire to make the list.

Also dropping out were big name casualties of the financial crisis on Wall Street -- former American International Group Inc chief executive Maurice "Hank" Greenberg and former Citigroup Inc chief executive Sanford Weill.

Allen Stanford, the Texan accused of an $8 billion fraud by U.S. regulators, was also booted off the list.

Crime, however, did not disqualify one notable new entry to the list -- Mexican drug lord Joaquin "Shorty" Guzman, who is among the world's most wanted men and now worth $1 billion.

"He is not available for interviews," Kroll said. "But his financial situation is doing quite well."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090311/bs_nm/us_forbes_billionaires_2

America and Obama sure got the raw end of the deal.
Damn Bush!

Winx's photo
Wed 03/11/09 09:01 PM
They lost their money and I found it.:banana:

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Wed 03/11/09 09:04 PM
I could not agree with you more.

Bush and Channey are the two people who sufferd the least out of the mass they created.

lets hope that Obama and his administration would not forget us middle class-working class people.

love and peace


Dragoness's photo
Wed 03/11/09 09:06 PM
Say it ain't sonoway He failed at that too?slaphead

Winx's photo
Wed 03/11/09 09:07 PM
laugh

Fanta46's photo
Wed 03/11/09 09:13 PM
We just need to extend their tax cuts a little longer....laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh

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Wed 03/11/09 09:15 PM
anyone that thinks bill gates is the richest man in the world needs to take at look at v. putin in russia. He may not only be wealthier but far more powerful than mr. gates.

Fanta46's photo
Wed 03/11/09 09:20 PM

anyone that thinks bill gates is the richest man in the world needs to take at look at v. putin in russia. He may not only be wealthier but far more powerful than mr. gates.



New York City replaced Moscow as home to the most billionaires, with 55. Russia, which saw the number of super- rich soar in recent years, suffered among the biggest shocks, with the number of billionaires down to 32 from 87.


Fanta46's photo
Wed 03/11/09 10:00 PM

I could not agree with you more.

Bush and Channey are the two people who sufferd the least out of the mass they created.

lets hope that Obama and his administration would not forget us middle class-working class people.

love and peace




Eyes wide open!drinker

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Wed 03/11/09 10:40 PM
Who holds the record for the biggest drop ever on Wall Street after a Jan 20 inaguration to date?

OBAMA

Dragoness's photo
Wed 03/11/09 10:42 PM

Who holds the record for the biggest drop ever on Wall Street after a Jan 20 inaguration to date?

OBAMA


It is still a symptom of the recession started in the Bush administration. We were told it would happen, actually they predicted a deeper drop so I would expect worse still.

Fanta46's photo
Wed 03/11/09 10:46 PM

Who holds the record for the biggest drop ever on Wall Street after a Jan 20 inaguration to date?

OBAMA


So you agree.
The Bush Administration left Obama a mess.I knew you would eventually agree.
drinker

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Wed 03/11/09 10:54 PM


Who holds the record for the biggest drop ever on Wall Street after a Jan 20 inaguration to date?

OBAMA


So you agree.
The Bush Administration left Obama a mess.I knew you would eventually agree.
drinker

The market rallied on Bush exiting.....
The market tanked on Obama ...

No, a solvable mess turned into a disaster because Obama didn't solely concentrate on trying to stabilizes the financial system. Obama has done nothing to address the fear factor that has caused the needless loss of jobs and wealth.

Winx's photo
Wed 03/11/09 10:55 PM


Who holds the record for the biggest drop ever on Wall Street after a Jan 20 inaguration to date?

OBAMA


It is still a symptom of the recession started in the Bush administration. We were told it would happen, actually they predicted a deeper drop so I would expect worse still.


It was predicted months before the election. I think it will get worse still too. We were warned.

Fanta46's photo
Wed 03/11/09 10:59 PM
Edited by Fanta46 on Wed 03/11/09 11:00 PM



Who holds the record for the biggest drop ever on Wall Street after a Jan 20 inaguration to date?

OBAMA


So you agree.
The Bush Administration left Obama a mess.I knew you would eventually agree.
drinker

The market rallied on Bush exiting.....
The market tanked on Obama ...

No, a solvable mess turned into a disaster because Obama didn't solely concentrate on trying to stabilizes the financial system. Obama has done nothing to address the fear factor that has caused the needless loss of jobs and wealth.


While I read your words
my thoughts cant help but wonder
old friend!

Where exactly did your economic degree
come from?bigsmile

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Wed 03/11/09 11:00 PM
If Geitner can pull a rabbit out of his hat and stabilize the financial system it doesn't have to get much worst. The banks and Wall Street are so important to jobs and I don't think Obama nor a lot of Americans really realize the connection of the two.

Winx's photo
Wed 03/11/09 11:04 PM
Edited by Winx on Wed 03/11/09 11:08 PM



Who holds the record for the biggest drop ever on Wall Street after a Jan 20 inaguration to date?

OBAMA


So you agree.
The Bush Administration left Obama a mess.I knew you would eventually agree.
drinker

The market rallied on Bush exiting.....
The market tanked on Obama ...

No, a solvable mess turned into a disaster because Obama didn't solely concentrate on trying to stabilizes the financial system. Obama has done nothing to address the fear factor that has caused the needless loss of jobs and wealth.


Yes, he addresses the fear factor. I've seen him speak in St. Louis. He talks about hope for the future and how we'll have to work hard together.

Part of his speech:

I know these are difficult times. I know folks are worried. But I believe that we can steer ourselves out of this crisis because I believe in this country. Because this is the United States of America. This is a nation that has faced down war and depression; great challenges and great threats. The American story has never been about things coming easy – it’s been about rising to the moment when the moment is hard.



Fanta46's photo
Wed 03/11/09 11:19 PM

If Geitner can pull a rabbit out of his hat and stabilize the financial system it doesn't have to get much worst. The banks and Wall Street are so important to jobs and I don't think Obama nor a lot of Americans really realize the connection of the two.


Did you read this?
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/SampP-jumps-5-percent-after-rb-14595172.html

Fanta46's photo
Wed 03/11/09 11:22 PM


If Geitner can pull a rabbit out of his hat and stabilize the financial system it doesn't have to get much worst. The banks and Wall Street are so important to jobs and I don't think Obama nor a lot of Americans really realize the connection of the two.


Did you read this?
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/SampP-jumps-5-percent-after-rb-14595172.html


Esp this!

Shares of Citigroup, in which the government more recently took a large common equity stake to help shore it up, jumped 38.1 percent to $1.45. Citi's stock has fallen about 78 percent year to date.

Other bank shares rallied, with Bank of America (NYSE:BAC - News) up nearly 28 percent at $4.79, and Wells Fargo (NYSE:WFC - News) up 18.5 percent at $11.81. An S&P index of financial stocks (^GSPF - News) popped up 15.6 percent.

JPMorgan (NYSE:JPM - News) was the Dow's top performer with nearly a 23 percent jump to $19.50. All 30 Dow components were in positive territory.


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Wed 03/11/09 11:24 PM
And this!

Highlighting the broad-based rally, the Dow Jones Home Construction index (DJI:^DJUSHB - News) climbed 15 percent, led by Pulte Homes (NYSE:PHM - News) and D.R. Horton Inc (NYSE:DHI - News).


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