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Topic: These Numbers Came Out Today
Winx's photo
Sat 03/07/09 12:02 AM
It looks like it will take awhile until it starts getting better.ohwell

Huge layoffs push joblessness toward double digits
Friday March 6, 6:13 pm ET
By Jeannine Aversa, AP Economics Writer
Record layoffs propel jobless rate to 8.1 percent, surging toward double digits

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Tolling grimly higher, the recession snatched more than 650,000 Americans' jobs for a record third straight month in February as unemployment climbed to a quarter-century peak of 8.1 percent and surged toward even more wrenching double digits.

The human carnage from the recession, well into its second year, now stands at 4.4 million lost jobs. Some 12.5 million people are searching for work -- more than the population of the entire state of Pennsylvania.

No one seems immune: The jobless rate for college graduates has hit its highest point on record, just like the rate for people lacking high school diplomas.

Employers also are holding hours down and freezing or cutting pay as the recession eats into sales and profits. If part-time workers who can't find full-time jobs are counted in, along with those who have simply given up looking, the rate would be 14.8 percent, the highest in records going back to 1994.

The wintertime blizzard of layoffs -- nearly 2 million lost jobs in just three months -- is destroying any hope for an economic turnaround this year while feeding insecurities among people who still have jobs as well as those who desperately want to find work.

"In this economy, if you have a family to feed like I do, beggars can't be choosers," said Greg Ovetsky, who lost his job at an information technology company two weeks ago.

Ovetsky, 37, of Staten Island, N.Y., said he'll take any position. "You can rest assured I'll say yes. Get a paycheck, get food on the table."

Across the country, Douglas Walch, 54, worries about losing his job as a park maintenance foreman because his employer of 15 years -- the city of Sacramento -- is preparing for layoffs.

"It's the worst I've ever seen it in my lifetime," Walch said.

President Barack Obama, barely a month into his own new job, acknowledged the layoffs were coming at an "astounding" clip but urged Americans to allow him time for his economic revival policies take root.

"This recovery plan won't turn our economy around or solve every problem," Obama said. "All of this takes time, and it will take patience."

For a day, Wall Street seemed to agree. Stocks seesawed up and down before finishing with a modest Dow Jones industrials gain of 32.5 points. Still the Dow was down a dispiriting 6.2 percent for the week.

The Labor Department's report, released Friday, showed pink slips nationwide hitting all categories -- blue-collar, white-collar, highly educated and not.

Employers slashed payrolls by a net total of 651,000 last month -- the third month in a row that job losses topped 600,000. It was the first time that's happened in government record-keeping dating to 1939.

"These are gargantuan declines," said Stuart Hoffman, chief economist at PNC Financial Services Group.

"Horrible," said Ian Shepherdson, chief economist at High Frequency Economics.

The unemployment rate leapt to 8.1 percent from 7.6 percent in January, the highest in more than 25 years. Some economists now predict the rate could hit 10 percent by year-end and peak at 11 percent or higher by the middle of 2010.

"The massive hemorrhage of jobs is reminiscent of the 1982 recession when the jobless rate hit 10.8 percent. Unfortunately, it will get much worse," predicted Sung Won Sohn, economist at the Martin Smith School of Business at California State University. "It is hard to see where the bottom is."

Besides the 12.5 million total for unemployed people in February, the number of people forced to work part time for economic reasons rose by a sharp 787,000 to 8.6 million. Those are people who would like to work full time but whose hours were cut back or were unable to find full-time work.

If those people -- along with discouraged workers -- were factored in, the rate would have been 14.8 percent in February.

The jobless rate for people with bachelor's degrees or higher jumped to 4.1 percent. And the rate for people without a high-school diploma climbed to 12.6 percent. Both are the highest in records dating to 1992.

The jobless rate for blacks rose to 13.4 percent, the highest since June 1993; the rate for Hispanics hit 10.9 percent, the highest since April 1993.

With no place to land, the number of "long-term unemployed" -- those out of work for 27 weeks or more -- climbed to 2.9 million, the most in records back to 1948.

Construction companies eliminated 104,000 jobs last month. Factories axed 168,000. Retailers cut nearly 40,000. Professional and business services got rid of 180,000, temporary-help agencies 78,000. Financial companies reduced payrolls by 44,000. Leisure and hospitality firms chopped 33,000.

The few areas spared: education and health services, as well as government, which boosted employment last month.

For those with jobs, employers kept a tight rein on hours. The average workweek in February stayed at 33.3 hours, matching the record low set in December.

Disappearing jobs and evaporating wealth from tanking home values, 401(k)s and other investments have forced consumers to retrench, driving companies to lay off workers. It's a vicious cycle in which all the economy's problems feed on each other, worsening the downward spiral.

A bit of positive economic news came from the Federal Reserve, which reported that consumer borrowing increased at an annual rate of $1.76 billion in the first month of the year. Still, the small rise is unlikely to shake economists' views that borrowing will remain weak this year as fearful consumers tighten their belts.

The economy contracted at 6.2 percent in the final three months of 2008, the worst showing in a quarter-century. Analysts believe the economy in the current January-March quarter is contracting at a pace between 5.5 and 6 percent or more.

A new wave of layoffs hit this week, with General Dynamics Corp., Northrop Grumman Corp., Tyco Electronics Ltd., and others announcing job cuts.

Obama is counting on a multipronged assault to lift the country out of recession: a $787 billion stimulus package of increased federal spending and tax cuts, a revamped bailout program for troubled banks and a $75 billion effort to stem home foreclosures.

But economists said the jobs situation seems to be killing any hopes for an economic recovery later this year as some had hoped.

"Faith in a rebound is running low no matter where you look these days," said Stephen Stanley, chief economist at RBS Greenwich Capital.

Associated Press Writers Tali Arbel in New York, Don Thompson in Sacramento and Daniel Lovering in Pittsburgh contributed to this report.


MirrorMirror's photo
Sat 03/07/09 12:09 AM

It looks like it will take awhile until it starts getting better.ohwell

Huge layoffs push joblessness toward double digits
Friday March 6, 6:13 pm ET
By Jeannine Aversa, AP Economics Writer
Record layoffs propel jobless rate to 8.1 percent, surging toward double digits

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Tolling grimly higher, the recession snatched more than 650,000 Americans' jobs for a record third straight month in February as unemployment climbed to a quarter-century peak of 8.1 percent and surged toward even more wrenching double digits.

The human carnage from the recession, well into its second year, now stands at 4.4 million lost jobs. Some 12.5 million people are searching for work -- more than the population of the entire state of Pennsylvania.

No one seems immune: The jobless rate for college graduates has hit its highest point on record, just like the rate for people lacking high school diplomas.

Employers also are holding hours down and freezing or cutting pay as the recession eats into sales and profits. If part-time workers who can't find full-time jobs are counted in, along with those who have simply given up looking, the rate would be 14.8 percent, the highest in records going back to 1994.

The wintertime blizzard of layoffs -- nearly 2 million lost jobs in just three months -- is destroying any hope for an economic turnaround this year while feeding insecurities among people who still have jobs as well as those who desperately want to find work.

"In this economy, if you have a family to feed like I do, beggars can't be choosers," said Greg Ovetsky, who lost his job at an information technology company two weeks ago.

Ovetsky, 37, of Staten Island, N.Y., said he'll take any position. "You can rest assured I'll say yes. Get a paycheck, get food on the table."

Across the country, Douglas Walch, 54, worries about losing his job as a park maintenance foreman because his employer of 15 years -- the city of Sacramento -- is preparing for layoffs.

"It's the worst I've ever seen it in my lifetime," Walch said.

President Barack Obama, barely a month into his own new job, acknowledged the layoffs were coming at an "astounding" clip but urged Americans to allow him time for his economic revival policies take root.

"This recovery plan won't turn our economy around or solve every problem," Obama said. "All of this takes time, and it will take patience."

For a day, Wall Street seemed to agree. Stocks seesawed up and down before finishing with a modest Dow Jones industrials gain of 32.5 points. Still the Dow was down a dispiriting 6.2 percent for the week.

The Labor Department's report, released Friday, showed pink slips nationwide hitting all categories -- blue-collar, white-collar, highly educated and not.

Employers slashed payrolls by a net total of 651,000 last month -- the third month in a row that job losses topped 600,000. It was the first time that's happened in government record-keeping dating to 1939.

"These are gargantuan declines," said Stuart Hoffman, chief economist at PNC Financial Services Group.

"Horrible," said Ian Shepherdson, chief economist at High Frequency Economics.

The unemployment rate leapt to 8.1 percent from 7.6 percent in January, the highest in more than 25 years. Some economists now predict the rate could hit 10 percent by year-end and peak at 11 percent or higher by the middle of 2010.

"The massive hemorrhage of jobs is reminiscent of the 1982 recession when the jobless rate hit 10.8 percent. Unfortunately, it will get much worse," predicted Sung Won Sohn, economist at the Martin Smith School of Business at California State University. "It is hard to see where the bottom is."

Besides the 12.5 million total for unemployed people in February, the number of people forced to work part time for economic reasons rose by a sharp 787,000 to 8.6 million. Those are people who would like to work full time but whose hours were cut back or were unable to find full-time work.

If those people -- along with discouraged workers -- were factored in, the rate would have been 14.8 percent in February.

The jobless rate for people with bachelor's degrees or higher jumped to 4.1 percent. And the rate for people without a high-school diploma climbed to 12.6 percent. Both are the highest in records dating to 1992.

The jobless rate for blacks rose to 13.4 percent, the highest since June 1993; the rate for Hispanics hit 10.9 percent, the highest since April 1993.

With no place to land, the number of "long-term unemployed" -- those out of work for 27 weeks or more -- climbed to 2.9 million, the most in records back to 1948.

Construction companies eliminated 104,000 jobs last month. Factories axed 168,000. Retailers cut nearly 40,000. Professional and business services got rid of 180,000, temporary-help agencies 78,000. Financial companies reduced payrolls by 44,000. Leisure and hospitality firms chopped 33,000.

The few areas spared: education and health services, as well as government, which boosted employment last month.

For those with jobs, employers kept a tight rein on hours. The average workweek in February stayed at 33.3 hours, matching the record low set in December.

Disappearing jobs and evaporating wealth from tanking home values, 401(k)s and other investments have forced consumers to retrench, driving companies to lay off workers. It's a vicious cycle in which all the economy's problems feed on each other, worsening the downward spiral.

A bit of positive economic news came from the Federal Reserve, which reported that consumer borrowing increased at an annual rate of $1.76 billion in the first month of the year. Still, the small rise is unlikely to shake economists' views that borrowing will remain weak this year as fearful consumers tighten their belts.

The economy contracted at 6.2 percent in the final three months of 2008, the worst showing in a quarter-century. Analysts believe the economy in the current January-March quarter is contracting at a pace between 5.5 and 6 percent or more.

A new wave of layoffs hit this week, with General Dynamics Corp., Northrop Grumman Corp., Tyco Electronics Ltd., and others announcing job cuts.

Obama is counting on a multipronged assault to lift the country out of recession: a $787 billion stimulus package of increased federal spending and tax cuts, a revamped bailout program for troubled banks and a $75 billion effort to stem home foreclosures.

But economists said the jobs situation seems to be killing any hopes for an economic recovery later this year as some had hoped.

"Faith in a rebound is running low no matter where you look these days," said Stephen Stanley, chief economist at RBS Greenwich Capital.

Associated Press Writers Tali Arbel in New York, Don Thompson in Sacramento and Daniel Lovering in Pittsburgh contributed to this report.





flowerforyou interesting articleflowerforyou

nogames39's photo
Sat 03/07/09 12:10 AM
With a president like Obama, expect even bigger numbers in the near future.

If I am wrong, the you will see lower numbers.

Winx's photo
Sat 03/07/09 12:10 AM
Edited by Winx on Sat 03/07/09 12:11 AM
Thank you, Mirror.flowerforyou



Winx's photo
Sat 03/07/09 12:12 AM

With a president like Obama, expect even bigger numbers in the near future.

If I am wrong, the you will see lower numbers.


I believe that it will get worse before it gets better. I thought that before the election too.

Fanta46's photo
Sat 03/07/09 12:13 AM
Winx,
8.1% is only .2% higher than the 7.9% we had.flowerforyou

nogames39's photo
Sat 03/07/09 12:14 AM


With a president like Obama, expect even bigger numbers in the near future.

If I am wrong, the you will see lower numbers.


I believe that it will get worse before it gets better. I thought that before the election too.


Good thinking! We will have to have Obama before someone else comes along!

Winx's photo
Sat 03/07/09 12:15 AM

Winx,
8.1% is only .2% higher than the 7.9% we had.flowerforyou


It's the highest it's been in 25 years.flowerforyou

Winx's photo
Sat 03/07/09 12:16 AM



With a president like Obama, expect even bigger numbers in the near future.

If I am wrong, the you will see lower numbers.


I believe that it will get worse before it gets better. I thought that before the election too.


Good thinking! We will have to have Obama before someone else comes along!


I thought it would be that way if McCain became President too. It's the course of cleaning up the mess and it takes time.

nogames39's photo
Sat 03/07/09 12:19 AM
McCain is just as stupid, plus he is way old (marasmatic). With McCain, it could even be worse!

MickyG's photo
Sat 03/07/09 12:19 AM
quick comparison what was Clintons exit% versus GWH% exit.

I love how the sides of politics stirs the melting pot!!

It should have boiled over LONG ago!!!!!!!!!!!!

Winx's photo
Sat 03/07/09 12:20 AM

McCain is just as stupid, plus he is way old (marasmatic). With McCain, it could even be worse!


scared

Winx's photo
Sat 03/07/09 12:23 AM

quick comparison what was Clintons exit% versus GWH% exit.

I love how the sides of politics stirs the melting pot!!

It should have boiled over LONG ago!!!!!!!!!!!!



I don't remember Bill Clinton's exit polls. Bush was about 28%.

Fanta46's photo
Sat 03/07/09 12:24 AM


Winx,
8.1% is only .2% higher than the 7.9% we had.flowerforyou


It's the highest it's been in 25 years.flowerforyou


That's also????,, was true yesterday.
25 yrs ago was 1983! Reagan was President and the unemployment was close to 14% in 1982!

Winx's photo
Sat 03/07/09 12:25 AM



Winx,
8.1% is only .2% higher than the 7.9% we had.flowerforyou


It's the highest it's been in 25 years.flowerforyou


That's also????,, was true yesterday.
25 yrs ago was 1983! Reagan was President and the unemployment was close to 14% in 1982!


I didn't remember it being that high.surprised

MickyG's photo
Sat 03/07/09 12:35 AM
Dem. Repub... doesn't matter EVER. The downfall came when we trusted in nothing more than 2 choices, this can be quoted in early american politics, 2 is no more better than one.

Should you not have a true triangular affect than you have nothing but point A and B without a continuous line in between!!!!!!!!!

no photo
Sat 03/07/09 12:39 AM
Our unemployment will reach 14% by the first of May.and 16 by the end of that month.surprised noway noway noway noway

Fanta46's photo
Sat 03/07/09 12:43 AM
That's what it was though.
If unemployment hits 8.11%, it will be another 25 yr record high!

When Obama took office the unemployment was 7.6%.

Even when,
ok if, the stimulus works.
It will be like a loaded freight train trying to brake. It will take awhile to stop the recession we went into during the final quarter,
of the Bush Administration.

Obama didnt do this to our economy!
He was left with it.

nogames39's photo
Sat 03/07/09 12:51 AM
Obama steals from the people to bail out the rich, the banks, and the insurance companies.

But, yeah, he promises to tax the rich. Just like every other democrat.

Here is the difference though:

Promises - to the poor
Money - to the rich
Promises - to the poor
Money - to the rich
Promises - to the poor
Money - to the rich
Promises - to the poor
Money - to the rich
Promises - to the poor
Money - to the rich

Repeat ad nauseum...

I think I am going to keep voting democratic! bigsmile

Fanta46's photo
Sat 03/07/09 12:55 AM
Bush banged the pooch!
grumble

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