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Topic: snopes is busted and debunked!!!!
think2deep's photo
Thu 03/05/09 11:40 PM
Who do we now believe? You can not trust the National Media and now it seems you can’t trust SNOPES? Does anyone have an alternative??


We learn the "truth" behind Snopes.com

For the past few years www.snopes.com has postioned itself, or others have labeled it, as the 'tell all final word' on any comment, claim and email. But for several years people tried to find out who exactly was behind snopes.com . Only recently did Wikipedia get to the bottom of it - kinda makes you wonder what they were hiding. Well, finally we know. It is run by a husband and wife team - that's right, no big office of investigators and researchers, no team of lawyers. It's just a mom-and-pop operation that began as a hobby.

David and Barbara Mikkelson in the San Fernando Valley of California started the website about 13 years ago - and they have no formal background or experience in investigative research. After a few years it gained popularity believing it to be unbiased and neutral, but over the past couple of years people started asking questions who was behind it and did they have a selfish motivation? The reason for the questions - or skepticims - is a result of snopes.com claiming to have the bottom line facts to certain questions or issue when in fact they have been proven wrong. Also, there were criticisms the Mikkelsons were not really investigating and getting to the 'true' bottom of various issues. I can personally vouch for that complaint.



A few months ago, when my State Farm agent Bud Gregg in Mandeville hoisted a political sign referencing Barack Obama and made a big splash across the internet,'supposedly' the Mikkelson's claim to have researched this issue before posting their findings on snopes.com . In their statement they claimed the corporate office of State Farm pressured Gregg into taking down the sign, when in fact nothing of the sort 'ever' took place.



I personally contacted David Mikkelson (and he replied back to me) thinking he would want to get to the bottomof this and I gave him Bud Gregg's contact phone numbers - and Bud was going to give him phone numbers to the big exec's at State Farm in Illinois who would have been willing to speak with him about it. He never called Bud. In fact, I learned from Bud Gregg no one from snopes.com ever contacted anyone with State Farm. Yet, snopes.com issued a statement as the 'final factual word' on the issue as if they did all their homework and got to the bottom of things - not!



Then it has been learned the Mikkelson's are jewish - very Democratic (party) and extremely liberal. As we all now know from this presidential election, liberals have a purpose agenda to discredit anything that appears to be conservative. There has been much criticism lately over the internet with people pointing out the Mikkelson's liberalism revealing itself in their website findings. Gee, what a shock?



So, I say this now to everyone who goes to www.snopes.com to get what they think to be the bottom line facts...'proceed with caution.' Take what it says at face value and nothing more. Use it only to lead you to their references where you can link to and read the sources for yourself. Plus, you can always google a subject and do the research yourself. It now seems apparent that's all the Mikkelson's do. After all, I can personally vouch from my own experience for their 'not' fully looking into things.



For the past few years www.snopes.com has postioned itself, or others have labeled it, as the 'tell all final word' on any comment, claim and email.
But for several years people tried to find out who exactly was behind snopes.com . Only recently did Wikipedia get to the bottom of it - kinda makes you wonder what they were hiding. Well, finally we know. It is run by a husband and wife team - that's right, no big office of investigators and researchers, no team of lawyers. It's just a mom-and-pop operation that began as a hobby.


http://www.topix.com/forum/city/paris-tx/TJ727OULEE30UFM76

Dan99's photo
Thu 03/05/09 11:42 PM
Snopes says this is FALSE!

Probably

chevylover1965's photo
Thu 03/05/09 11:45 PM
this is funny !laugh

Winx's photo
Fri 03/06/09 12:06 AM
Is that from a blog?

think2deep's photo
Fri 03/06/09 12:30 AM

Snopes says this is FALSE!

Probably


i don't know but we better submit it to slopes so David Mikkelson and his wife can research it.

no photo
Fri 03/06/09 12:36 AM
Edited by michiganman3 on Fri 03/06/09 12:39 AM
It's more Anti-Semitic nonsense.
What does the fact that they are Jewish have anything to do with it?


And this is a cut and paste from the URL listed.

think2deep's photo
Fri 03/06/09 12:38 AM

It's more Anti-Semitic nonsense.
What does the fact that they are Jewish have anything to do with it?


they were showing that the Mikkelsons are a bit biased towards the democratic persuasion. if that's all you got out of it then i'm sorry, i can't help you buddy.

no photo
Fri 03/06/09 12:40 AM
No but what I've seen you post, thats what you put into it.

think2deep's photo
Fri 03/06/09 12:42 AM

It's more Anti-Semitic nonsense.
What does the fact that they are Jewish have anything to do with it?


And this is a cut and paste from the URL listed.


no duh its a cut and paste. that's why i put up the link. i'm sick of people saying that anti=semite word. i have a jewish son i'm not anti'semite!!!!

catchme_ifucan's photo
Fri 03/06/09 12:59 AM
spock

s1owhand's photo
Fri 03/06/09 01:47 AM
Edited by s1owhand on Fri 03/06/09 01:47 AM
it's a sub-bourbon legend! drinker

yellowrose10's photo
Fri 03/06/09 05:23 AM
Edited by yellowrose10 on Fri 03/06/09 05:27 AM
who is to say the topic article is legit?? it was taken from a forum not much different than this

Winx's photo
Fri 03/06/09 05:31 AM

It's more Anti-Semitic nonsense.
What does the fact that they are Jewish have anything to do with it?


And this is a cut and paste from the URL listed.


Hmmm...I didn't pick that up the first time that I read it.

"Then it has been learned the Mikkelson's are jewish - very Democratic (party) and extremely liberal."

Also, when did Wikipedia become a secure source of information?

no photo
Fri 03/06/09 05:47 AM
Then it has been learned the Mikkelson's are jewish - very Democratic (party) and extremely liberal. As we all now know from this presidential election, liberals have a purpose agenda to discredit anything that appears to be conservative. There has been much criticism lately over the internet with people pointing out the Mikkelson's liberalism revealing itself in their website findings. Gee, what a shock?


What do you expect t2d with remarks like this in the article. Besides liberals don't need to discredit conservatives they did that to themsleves.

The minute the article reverts to this 'jewish democrat extreme liberal' horse$hit, it loses any reader other than the sort that love this crap.

If you had more respect for your jewish son, you would have questioned that right there. And where is your proof, and why would we accept your proof?

Anyone taking any site as gospel is dangerous and naive. But picking on this couple because they aren't some huge organization is silly, as if two people can't be just as honest as a large organization.

think2deep's photo
Fri 03/06/09 07:49 AM

Then it has been learned the Mikkelson's are jewish - very Democratic (party) and extremely liberal. As we all now know from this presidential election, liberals have a purpose agenda to discredit anything that appears to be conservative. There has been much criticism lately over the internet with people pointing out the Mikkelson's liberalism revealing itself in their website findings. Gee, what a shock?


What do you expect t2d with remarks like this in the article. Besides liberals don't need to discredit conservatives they did that to themsleves.

The minute the article reverts to this 'jewish democrat extreme liberal' horse$hit, it loses any reader other than the sort that love this crap.

If you had more respect for your jewish son, you would have questioned that right there. And where is your proof, and why would we accept your proof?

Anyone taking any site as gospel is dangerous and naive. But picking on this couple because they aren't some huge organization is silly, as if two people can't be just as honest as a large organization.



first of all, my research is just as valid as theirs. i can't prove that to you because you don't get to see the processes i go through. you can only speculate based on the processes you go through. look at it like this, you see me go through all kinds of emotions on this forum, i interact with different people on here in different ways to see how they will react and see what makes them tick. it's a hobby of mine to be a people watcher. i've had this hobby since i was a child. because of the research i've done so far on this forum, i can pretty much tell most of the people in this forum so much about themselves. i don't take any of this seriously. i'm a walking, breathing meter. always measuring responses. there is not one person in this world that i couldn't walk away from forever and not be fine with it. this world is a labratory and i'm the observer. i noticed a certain individual yesterday had gone back and checked the times i posted and he noticed that i post around the clock. he's right. each part of the day brings a different set of you on here with different responses. some are exactly the same no matter who is posting at the time. i already know what kind of responses i'm going to get from this post, i know intimate details of how each one of you will respond. we all do this though, that's why we post our opinion in the first place is to get a response from someone. it's called instant gratification. the only problem with being the observer is that sometimes, just like a photon, the subject is altered by the mere observation of it. and yeah, most of the time i'm studying nambu physics along with quantum physics but sometimes, ya gotta take a break. it's funny, i went fishing with a friend of mine and we saw a guy throw a cast net from the side of a pier. the current was bringing it back in quickly towards one of the pilings and i told the guy to pull the net back up as fast as he could. he stood there looking at me and then down at his net. he couldn't see the piling from where he was so he just blew my warning off. i stood there just watching his cast net wrap around the pilings and getting caught all up in the barnacles. he chose not to listen to me. i walked away unscathed by it and having a lesser opinion of the guy.

no photo
Fri 03/06/09 01:43 PM
The link is to an anonymous post on some blog.

yellowrose10's photo
Fri 03/06/09 01:46 PM
the post was nothing more than someone elses opinion. not a news article or anything

dantaylor28's photo
Fri 03/06/09 01:50 PM
uh oh rose is back . everyone hide your butts .frustrated

think2deep's photo
Fri 03/06/09 02:17 PM
which part of the article are you having trouble with? give me examples

Lynann's photo
Fri 03/06/09 02:20 PM
HA HA HA

Take everything you read with a grain of salt...but come on!

Wikipedia giving a definitive word on anything?

WOW

That's very entertaining.

Thanks, two points for the funniest posting of the day!

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