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Topic: prayer questions
yellowrose10's photo
Wed 03/11/09 08:00 AM
the person i am referring to IS GOING TO CRASH HARD!!!! after what he went through in childhood and adulthood...he learned from his parents to self medicate with alcohol if ignoring the problems doesn't work

so i should sit by and not worry about it since there is nothing i can do anyway? this is what i don't get. if I pray and many pray for that person too....nothing will happen because the person doesn't know much about God or where to go for help or wants to handle it the way he has been because the problems of the past are too painful?

Nubby's photo
Wed 03/11/09 05:54 PM

the person i am referring to IS GOING TO CRASH HARD!!!! after what he went through in childhood and adulthood...he learned from his parents to self medicate with alcohol if ignoring the problems doesn't work

so i should sit by and not worry about it since there is nothing i can do anyway? this is what i don't get. if I pray and many pray for that person too....nothing will happen because the person doesn't know much about God or where to go for help or wants to handle it the way he has been because the problems of the past are too painful?



It could be that God will allow him to crash hard. Many people turn to God once they hit rock bottom. I suggest you read about the conversion of Chuck Colson for an example.

Nubby's photo
Wed 03/11/09 06:24 PM
I would warn him, not about possibly his coming destruction, but about the second destruction.

yellowrose10's photo
Wed 03/11/09 06:58 PM
which would be???? sorry - self medicated now

Nubby's photo
Thu 03/12/09 05:45 AM
Edited by Nubby on Thu 03/12/09 05:55 AM
Separation from God. Its a scary thing. Jesus spoke more about hell then He did about heaven. Have you talked to him before about Christ. With some, we are to warn, pulling them from the fire as it were.

yellowrose10's photo
Thu 03/12/09 12:11 PM
How to Pray for Believers and Unbelievers

How to Pray for Believers
It is interesting to note that much of the praying that was done in the New Testament was on behalf of believers. Jesus certainly modeled this pattern with His mission-centered prayer in John 17. Paul likewise models and teaches this practice throughout his epistles (see Eph. 1: 15-19; 3:14-19; I Thess. 3:11-13). As Christians we should lift one another to the throne of grace daily. One writer said it well, "More believers on their knees praying will result in more Christians on their feet evangelizing." Prayer for believers that focuses on the fulfillment of the Great Commission should be at the heart of every Christians prayer life. The following prayer suggestions can help believers pray with a view toward the Great Commission.

Using Matthew 9:37-38, John 17:11-24, and Colossians 1:9-11 as a guide, pray for: Christ to send believers into His harvest fields (Matt. 9:38)
Christ to keep Christians in His name and character (John 17:11)
Christians to have Christ’s joy made full in themselves (John 17:13)
Christ to guard and protect believers from the evil one (John 17:15)
Christ to sanctify (set apart) believers in the truth of God (John 17:17)
Christians to be unified in one mission, purpose and spirit even as the Father and Son are one (John 17:21-22)
Christians to be where Christ is and join His work ( John 17:24).
Christians to be filled with spiritual wisdom, pleasing in all ways to Christ, strengthened spiritually, mentally, physically, and emotionally, and bearing fruit in every good work (Col. 1:10-11).


How to Pray for Unbelievers
Evangelistic praying should include prayer for personal spiritual needs, evangelism events, believers and unbelievers. Prayer on behalf of lost people is clearly mandated by Christ in Matthew 6:9-10. The Apostle Paul models and exhorts believers concerning prayer for the lost (see Rom.10:1-2; I Tim. 2:1-4). Below is an acrostic that can be used to pray biblically and effectively for those that are lost.

Pray for their HEARTS to be changed. Pray for Receptive and Repentant Hearts (Luke 8:5-12)
Pray for their spiritual Eyes and Ears to be opened to the truth of Christ (2 Cor. 4:3-4; Matt. 13:15).
Pray for them to have God’s Attitude toward sin (John 16:8).
Pray for the person to be Released to believe (2 Cor. 10:3-4; 2 Tim 2:25-26)
Pray for a Transforming life (Rom. 12:1-2).
Pray for God to Send them into his harvest field (Matt 9:35-38).


North American Mission Board
http://www.namb.net/evangelism/dev/prayer/PrayerMap/believr.htm


yellowrose10's photo
Thu 03/12/09 12:13 PM

Separation from God. Its a scary thing. Jesus spoke more about hell then He did about heaven. Have you talked to him before about Christ. With some, we are to warn, pulling them from the fire as it were.


i have talked to him before about prayer. not sure he is in a place to hear anything.

Nubby's photo
Thu 03/12/09 12:49 PM

How to Pray for Believers and Unbelievers

How to Pray for Believers
It is interesting to note that much of the praying that was done in the New Testament was on behalf of believers. Jesus certainly modeled this pattern with His mission-centered prayer in John 17. Paul likewise models and teaches this practice throughout his epistles (see Eph. 1: 15-19; 3:14-19; I Thess. 3:11-13). As Christians we should lift one another to the throne of grace daily. One writer said it well, "More believers on their knees praying will result in more Christians on their feet evangelizing." Prayer for believers that focuses on the fulfillment of the Great Commission should be at the heart of every Christians prayer life. The following prayer suggestions can help believers pray with a view toward the Great Commission.

Using Matthew 9:37-38, John 17:11-24, and Colossians 1:9-11 as a guide, pray for: Christ to send believers into His harvest fields (Matt. 9:38)
Christ to keep Christians in His name and character (John 17:11)
Christians to have Christ’s joy made full in themselves (John 17:13)
Christ to guard and protect believers from the evil one (John 17:15)
Christ to sanctify (set apart) believers in the truth of God (John 17:17)
Christians to be unified in one mission, purpose and spirit even as the Father and Son are one (John 17:21-22)
Christians to be where Christ is and join His work ( John 17:24).
Christians to be filled with spiritual wisdom, pleasing in all ways to Christ, strengthened spiritually, mentally, physically, and emotionally, and bearing fruit in every good work (Col. 1:10-11).


How to Pray for Unbelievers
Evangelistic praying should include prayer for personal spiritual needs, evangelism events, believers and unbelievers. Prayer on behalf of lost people is clearly mandated by Christ in Matthew 6:9-10. The Apostle Paul models and exhorts believers concerning prayer for the lost (see Rom.10:1-2; I Tim. 2:1-4). Below is an acrostic that can be used to pray biblically and effectively for those that are lost.

Pray for their HEARTS to be changed. Pray for Receptive and Repentant Hearts (Luke 8:5-12)
Pray for their spiritual Eyes and Ears to be opened to the truth of Christ (2 Cor. 4:3-4; Matt. 13:15).
Pray for them to have God’s Attitude toward sin (John 16:8).
Pray for the person to be Released to believe (2 Cor. 10:3-4; 2 Tim 2:25-26)
Pray for a Transforming life (Rom. 12:1-2).
Pray for God to Send them into his harvest field (Matt 9:35-38).


North American Mission Board
http://www.namb.net/evangelism/dev/prayer/PrayerMap/believr.htm




The North American Mission Board is very good. A up and coming apologist Micheal Liconi works for them. He has done many a debate with some of the best including Bart Erhman.

yellowrose10's photo
Thu 03/12/09 12:53 PM
i thought that was a great sight and helped answer prayer questions for me. maybe it might help others as well. there have been many in here that have helped me also

yellowrose10's photo
Thu 03/12/09 02:37 PM
For Someone Who Doesn’t Like Me


Be devoted to one another in brotherly love. Honor one another above yourselves.—Romans 12:10

God, there is a person in my life who doesn’t
like me. Or so it seems. If there is something I
am doing to rub that person the wrong way, please
help me recognize it and stop. Help me see myself
as they see me, and give me the strength and humility
to change the things that offend them. Establish a
good spirit between us. I want a loving relationship
with this person. Help me do what it takes to
achieve that. Amen.


i found this online too.

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