In keeping with my posts (and to keep you folks that think I hate conservatives and Christians (you are wrong)) here is some stuff you might find interesting.

Sort of makes you wonder what folks are doing and what level of honesty they approach life with?

I know I am not in the least bit surprised by this articles assertions. After all some people only like it dirty right?

HA HA HA

I should bite my tongue now.../smirk

Porn in the USA: Conservatives are biggest consumers

* 16:18 27 February 2009 by Ewen Callaway

Americans may paint themselves in increasingly bright shades of red and blue, but new research finds one thing that varies little across the nation: the liking for online pornography.

A new nationwide study (pdf) of anonymised credit-card receipts from a major online adult entertainment provider finds little variation in consumption between states.

"When it comes to adult entertainment, it seems people are more the same than different," says Benjamin Edelman at Harvard Business School.

However, there are some trends to be seen in the data. Those states that do consume the most porn tend to be more conservative and religious than states with lower levels of consumption, the study finds.

"Some of the people who are most outraged turn out to be consumers of the very things they claimed to be outraged by," Edelman says.
Political divide

Edelman spends part of his time helping companies such as Microsoft and AOL detect advertising fraud. Another consulting client runs dozens of adult websites, though he says he is not at liberty to identify the firm.

That company did, however, provide Edelman with roughly two years of credit card data from 2006 to 2008 that included a purchase date and each customer's postal code.

After controlling for differences in broadband internet access between states – online porn tends to be a bandwidth hog – and adjusting for population, he found a relatively small difference between states with the most adult purchases and those with the fewest.

The biggest consumer, Utah, averaged 5.47 adult content subscriptions per 1000 home broadband users; Montana bought the least with 1.92 per 1000. "The differences here are not so stark," Edelman says.

Number 10 on the list was West Virginia at 2.94 subscriptions per 1000, while number 41, Michigan, averaged 2.32.

Eight of the top 10 pornography consuming states gave their electoral votes to John McCain in last year's presidential election – Florida and Hawaii were the exceptions. While six out of the lowest 10 favoured Barack Obama.
Old-fashioned values

Church-goers bought less online porn on Sundays – a 1% increase in a postal code's religious attendance was associated with a 0.1% drop in subscriptions that day. However, expenditures on other days of the week brought them in line with the rest of the country, Edelman finds.

Residents of 27 states that passed laws banning gay marriages boasted 11% more porn subscribers than states that don't explicitly restrict gay marriage.

To get a better handle on other associations between social attitudes and pornography consumption, Edelman melded his data with a previous study on public attitudes toward religion.

States where a majority of residents agreed with the statement "I have old-fashioned values about family and marriage," bought 3.6 more subscriptions per thousand people than states where a majority disagreed. A similar difference emerged for the statement "AIDS might be God's punishment for immoral sexual behaviour."

"One natural hypothesis is something like repression: if you're told you can't have this, then you want it more," Edelman says.

Journal reference: Journal of Economic Perspectives vol 23, p 209 (pdf)

Not suprised in the least...

Me like boobies

newsflash. primates fascinated with SeX! who could have guessed?!

I'm fascinated with the homo connection and politics. Ted Haggard, the "wide stance" senator in the bathroom, Arnold Schwartzy's gay porn, high priced gay prostitutes flown into Bohemian Grove near San Fran, I can't remember them all.

Most of Hitlers SS troops were homo. Connection? hmmm

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Webster G. Tarpley & Anton Chaitkin

``Call Boys Took Midnight Tour of White House.''

http://www.tarpley.net/bush21.htm

On the morning of June 29, 1989, pandemonium erupted in the corridors of power in the nation's capital. ``Homosexual Prostitution Probe Ensnares Official of Bush, Reagan,'' screamed the front-page headline of the Washington Times with the kicker ``Call Boys Took Midnight Tour of White House.''
http://www.tarpley.net/bush21.htm

he Times reported, ``A homosexual prostitution ring is under investigation by federal and District authorities and includes among its clients key officials of the Reagan and Bush administrations, military officers, congressional aides and U.S. and foreign businessmen with close ties to Washington's political elite.''

The expose� centered on the role of one Craig Spence, a Republican powerbroker known for his lavish ``power cocktail'' parties. Spence was well connected. He celebrated Independence Day 1988 by conducting a midnight tour of the White House in the company of two teenage male prostitutes among others in his party.

Rumors circulated that a list existed of some 200 Washington prominents who had used the call boy service. The Number Two in charge of personnel affairs at the White House, who was responsible for filling all the top civil service posts in the federal bureaucracy, and Secretary of Labor Elizabeth Dole's chief of staff, were two individuals publicly identified as patrons of the call boy ring.

Two of the ring's call boys were allegedly KGB operatives, according to a retired general from the Defense Intelligence Agency interviewed by the press. But the evidence seemed to point to a CIA sexual blackmail operation, instead. Spence's entire mansion was covered with hidden microphones, two-way mirrors and video cameras, ever ready to capture the indiscretions of Washington's high, mighty and perverse. The political criteria for proper sexual comportment had long been established in Washington: Any kinkiness goes, so long as you don't get caught. The popular proverb was that the only way a politician could hurt his career was if he were ``caught with a dead woman or a live boy'' in his bed.

Months after the scandal had died down, and a few weeks before he allegedly committed suicide, Spence was asked who had given him the ``key'' to the White House. The Washington Times reported that ``Mr. Spence hinted the tours were arranged by `top level' persons, including Donald Gregg, national security advisor to Vice President Bush''@s1 and later U.S. ambassador to South Korea.


George Bush was less than pleased with the media coverage of the prostitution charges and kept abreast of the scandal as it mushroomed. The Washington Times reported in an article titled ``White House Mute on Call Boy Scandal,'' that ``White House sources confirmed that President Bush has followed the story of the late night visit and Mr. Spence's links to a homosexual prostitution ring under investigation by federal authorities since they were disclosed June 29 in the Washington Times. But top officials will not discuss the story's substance, reportedly even among themselves.

``Press officers have rebuffed repeated requests to obtain Mr. Bush's reaction and decline to discuss investigations or fall out from the disclosures.''@s2 By midsummer, the scandal had been buried. The President had managed to avoid giving a single press conference where he would surely have been asked to comment.

As the call boy ring affair dominated the cocktail gossip circuit in Washington, another scandal, halfway across the country in the state of Nebraska, peaked. Again this scandal knocked on the President's door.

A black Republican who had been a leader in organizing minority support for the President's 1988 campaign and who proudly displayed a photo of himself and the President, arm in arm, in his Omaha home, was at the center of a sex and money scandal that continues to rock the Cornhusker state.

The scandal originated with the collapse of the minority-oriented Franklin Community Credit Union in Omaha, directed by Lawrence E. King, Jr., a nationally influential black Republican who sang the national anthem at both the 1984 and 1988 Republican conventions. King became the subject of the Nebraska Senate's investigation conducted by the specially created ``Franklin Committee'' to probe charges of embezzlement.

In November 1988, King's offices were raided by the FBI and $40 million was discovered missing. Within weeks, the Nebraska Senate, which initially opened the inquiry to find out where the money had gone, instead found itself questioning young adults and teenagers who said that they had been child prostitutes. Social workers and state child-care administrators accused King of running a child prostitution ring. The charges grew with the former police chief of Omaha, the publisher of the state's largest daily newspaper, and several other political associates of King, finding themselves accused of patronizing the child prostitution ring.

King is now serving a 15-year federal prison sentence for defrauding the Omaha-based credit union. But the magazines Avvenimenti of Italy and Pronto of Spain, among others, have charged that King's crimes were more serious: that he ran a national child prostitution ring that serviced the political and business elite of both Republican and Democratic parties. Child victims of King's operations charged him with participation in at least one satanic ritual murder of a child several years ago.

The Washington Post, New York Times, Village Voice and National Law Journal covered the full range of accusations after the story broke in November of 1988. King's money machinations were also linked to the Iran-Contra affair, and some say that King provided the CIA with information garnered from his alleged activities as a ``pimp'' for the high and mighty.

Pronto, the Barcelona-based, largest circulation weekly in Spain with 4.5 million readers, reported that the Lawrence E. King child prostitution scandal ``appears to directly implicate politicos of the state of Nebraska and Washington, D.C. who are very close to the White House and George Bush himself.''

Lawrence King was no stranger to President Bush. And Lawrence King was no stranger to Craig Spence. Several of the Omaha child prostitutes testified that they had traveled to Washington, D.C. with King in private planes to attend political events which were followed by sex parties. King and Spence had much in common. Not only were they both Republican Party activists but they had gone into business together procuring prostitutes for Washington's elite.

Bush's name had repeatedly surfaced in the Nebraska scandal. But his name was first put into print in July 1989, a little less than a month after the Washington call boy affair had first made headlines. Omaha's leading daily newspaper reported, ``One child, who has been under psychiatric care, is said to believe she saw George Bush at one of King's parties.''@s4


Sound crazy? Not to Steve Bowman, an Omaha businessman who is compiling a book about the Franklin money and sex scandal. ``We do have some credible witnesses who say that `Yes, George Bush does have a problem.'... Child abuse has become one of the epidemics of the 1990s,'' Bowman told GQ. Allegedly, one of Bowman's sources is a retired psychiatrist who worked for the CIA. He added that cocaine trafficking and political corruption were the other principal themes of his book.@s6

It didn't sound crazy to Peter Sawyer either. An Australian conservative activist who publishes a controversial newsletter, Inside News, with a circulation of 200,000, dedicated his November 1991 issue entirely to the Nebraska scandal, focusing on President Bush's links to the affair. In a section captioned, ``The Original Allegations: Bush First Named in 1985,'' Sawyer writes,

"Stories about child sex and pornography first became public knowledge in 1989, following the collapse of the Franklin Credit Union. That is not when the allegations started, however. Indeed, given the political flavor of the subsequent investigations, it would be easy to dismiss claims that George Bush had been involved. He was by then a very public figure...."

If the first allegations about a massive child exploitation ring, centered around Larry King and leading all the way to the White House, had been made in 1989, and had all come from the same source, some shenanigans and mischievous collusion could be suspected. However, the allegations arising out of the Franklin Credit Union collapse were not the first.

Way back in 1985, a young girl, Eulice (Lisa) Washington, was the center of an investigation by Andrea L. Carener, of the Nebraska Department of Social Services. The investigation was instigated because Lisa and her sister Tracey continually ran away from their foster parents, Jarrett and Barbara Webb. Initially reluctant to disclose information for fear of being further punished, the two girls eventually recounted a remarkable story, later backed up by other children who had been fostered out to the Webb's [sic].

Lisa, supported by her sister, detailed a massive child sex, homosexual, and pornography industry, run in Nebraska by Larry King. She described how she was regularly taken to Washington by plane, with other youths, to attend parties hosted by King and involving many prominent people, including businessmen and politicians. Lisa specifically named George Bush as being in attendance on at least two separate occasions. ``Remember, this was in 1985,'' emphasized the Australian newsletter.

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Who's business is that?

You are going to post something from Webster Griffin Tarpley, and act as if its factual?

I have seen some dumb **** on here, but come on man.

Tarpleys book on Bush was published by Lyndon LaRouche.

WOW... Lyndon LaRouche... Yeah... He is a great source of factual information.

Here is a good one for you..

In January 2008, Tarpley became one of the first critics to assert that Barack Obama is actually managed by right-wing powerbrokers.

What do you think about that one?

It never ceases to amaze me, the depth people will sink to push their propaganda bs.

You are on the "not credible" "nutjob" list.

Wow, I'm homo as you put it and I am not at all fascinated by the connection. Any more than I would be fascinated by heteros and politics. I'm fascinated you are fascinated..

Okay, without commenting on the stuff in norslyman post other than the first line here it is.

It does add a degree of interest for me when politicians who have anti-gay positions or proclaim loudly that they are pro family and then are caught and are implicated in or confess to any sort of activity outside their marriages be it affairs, visiting prostitutes, cruising public bathrooms or any other activity outside of what they claim publicly.

La Rouche didn't write the damn thing - he published it.
I think Tarpley is an excellent researcher.
Of course Obama has neacon connections!
Do you actually believe the left/right false system!
Do you actually think politics is real!
I'd like to read Tarpley's new book "Obama the Postmodern Coup".
I have a feeling you're on the Obama-nation "nutjob" supporters list.

I've got the book "The Franklin Coverup". Very credible. He's won lawsuits in court. So yes, this stuff goes on. I've also read "Why Jonny Can't Come Home" about CIA child-kidnapping rings with elite connections.

Do YOUR homework before assuming everbody without YOU'RE scewed opinion in a "nut".

And remember, "From the lone nut, comes the mighty oak".

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boo2u - Were you been? No offense meant by using the word homo, just too lazy to write homosexual. That is the technical name isn't it?

norslyman. I think boo maybe offended by the word homo because it has been used as a bashing word by many people. IMO...i can't speak for boo but that is my take on it

I have been busy nursing a sick animal. But yes that is the technical name I suppose.

Though I do wish people could find a way to discuss us as if we are human and not making it sound as we are all pedophiles and no good, that is offensive and upsetting.

There are people in politics that hide who they are, often for good reason, however some hide it and are hypocritical about who they are, and some hide the fact that they are perverts of the worse kind on both sides.

Yes that is exactly rigth. Homo is used in a not so nice way. Homosexual is the technical word, as is hetero for straights, but we don't go around saying hetro, and even if we did, there is not long history behind using it in a nasty way, so it doesn't have the same affect.

Wish I could find just as offensive a word for straights so that when they use homo, I can come back with _______ (whatever). Maybe then people who aren't really trying to be offensive would think about what words they do us.

It's like teens using the word gay.... I don't know where that started....

saying something is gay comes from small minds. nothing more.
I don't know you well but I suspect that you may not really want a come back word to those people. I think you are better than to stoop to that level (as frustrating as it may be)

I don't mean to hijack your thread Lynann
I just want to point out that IMO society determines what is PC or not. sa far it's ok (in some minds) to say that is gay, where using other words that have been meant to offend in the past is not ok.

hypocrites are everywhere and i know there are times i might be one about certain things. i try to catch myself or hope someone calls me on it.

as for the topic....I do think it's funny as well that people say one thing because the public wants to hear that but is a closet whatever.

Did you polish that rose just for me?

but of course damn fanta....for you and only you lol

hey stop that...i'm trying to be good and stay on topic for a change...don't detour me

think about this for a second....if someone claims to be something and announces their beliefs but turns around and does the opposite....are they truly what they claim to be????? so therefore, how credible are they????

Can I pluck the peddles off?