If God is all powerful and all knowing, and can create the world on a whim...why the issue of good and evil? Why not make everybody good? Too boring for God???

Kinda like a relationship. If we agree on everything...it would get too boring? We must have some conflict.

Because God made people have the right to choose to be good or evil...They do that on their own

Exactly my point. If God MADE everybody to be good...then we wouldnt have the "right" or "wrong", "good" or "bad" issue. We would ALL be good and pure...no matter what.


But it was the "freewill" factor that brought all the drama and agony. Why not take the easy route, and make us all the same goody two shoes??? Why all the drama?

Good question! The same one I've been spinning around in my head for years. But He says there are things in heaven and earth we cannot understand. It's a mystery we have to live with. I know, it seems like we are just little puppets in some sick little black comedy.

Ehhh...not even an argument anyway. OK...here is my question...

God is love and peace and equality, and all that. Right? WHY??? If God is all knowing and all powerful? WHY? Doesnt he/she/it do something about it?????

If I had the power to save all human life (or life in general) I would certainly DO something about it. But, I guess I'm just weird like that...

simple, without drama you have no faith.

You simply cannot have good without bad, if everybody was good there would still be some that were better leaving the not as good to be labeled as bad even though they are still good. The fact that we are not and cannot be exactly alike also proves this theory and for that we are all here looking for another person for a relationship, if I knew the next one would be just like the last, I would not be here.

Again...DRAMA. Why do we NEED faith to justify life??? Why not just live in happiness?

I kind of agree with this...but still....you misssed the whole point of my thread...

It's not about God, it's about humans.

You make your own drama in the way that you react to situations.

If you see an event that you deem to be horrifing,....

well, who was it that deemed it to be horrifying?

But I'm in total agreement with you concerning an all-knowing, all-powerful, all-wise God. It makes no sense for such a God to create the Earthly realm. Such a God could, in theory just create heaven the way he wants it to be already. The idea that he needs to go through the whole earth soap-opera to get to the end result he wants suggest that he's less than all-powerful.

If you're referring to the Biblical story it makes no sense anyway.

First off, according to the Biblical story the angels in heaven rebelled against God. So he was having problems in his supposedly 'perfect heaven' long before he created the earth. In fact, it's pretty clear from that fact that angels rebelled that his heaven is already far from perfect.

Secondly, if it was God's plan to have humans be 'tested' before gaining admission into his heaven then there would have been no need for the story of Adam and Eve falling from grace!

After all, if it was God ORIGINAL PLAN to just test humans, then there would be no need for them to have 'fallen from grace'. In fact, to have fallen from grace would have suggested that they had failed the test.

But according to the Bible this wasn't God's plan at all. God had intended to create a perfect Earthly life and Adam and Eve fell from grace totally SURPRISING GOD and catching him OFF GUARD from his original PLAN.

So either way the story doesn't make sense.

Clearly it's a story of a God who can't even get a plan to work! It's a story of a totally inept God.

According to the way the biblical story goes God is just as frustrated as we are! And just as HELPLESS to make things right.

He supposedly ended up sacrificing his only begotten Son in what can be seen as nothing other than an act of PURE DESPERATION.

This is a picture of a God who has run out of options and humans have gotten on his last nerve and he has NO CLUE how to mentor them into becoming willfully obedient childern. All of his solutions are desperate attempts at blood sacrificies and failed attempts to do anything right.

He couldn't even deliver his people a plot of "Promised Land" without having it contaminated by HEATHENS!

It's a picture of a totally inept God.

It just never ceases to amaze me that modern men are still considering this picture as even being remotely divine.

GOD has put so much hate into us that there will be more bloodshed in the 21st century than ever before???

I believe the answer is YES!!!


WHY?????? Is what I'm trying to figure out.



PEACE!!!!

it's because God is supposedly a perfect creature and therefore is neither good nor evil and all the God created is lesser than God and therefore inherently bad, evil and sinners

if God does something about it that would mean that God would have to create humans more perfect then himself and therefore God would no longer be the God, humans would become God and God would be considered an evil sinful being

I totally see what you're saying funches. A "jealous" God indeed. Again...it goes back to the "if God was all powerful, all knowing, numero uno being in the universe"...why be jealous??? And for what reason???


DRAMA!

The whole concept really baffles me too.

Why did he create Humans like us in the 1st place?

Satan was on the scene when he told Eve she would not die.

It seems that we did not come about untill The earth became null and void and Satan had rebelled.

Then Humans were made in a physical form and not the spiritual.

The spiritual had rebelled even though they knew Yahweh and his power. Satan does not believe he is all powerfull. Yet Satan knows in Job that he could not touch Job without Yahweh's permission.

Wonder why Satan thinks he could over throw him?

We are constantly refered to as children.

Adam and Eve were child like untill they knew good and Evil.

Then they changed.

Small children are very forgiving and can forget a squabble minutes later and they do not see anyone as not thier friend if they do not have a reason to.


So would evil in Humans of came about if Adam and Eve would of stayed away from the tree?

Would they of ever of died?

That tree is seen at the end of Rev also and it is when we are spirit and it's leaves are for healing.

We are also told we will be i believe will is the way it is put higher than the Angels.

So are we in training?

Are we learning through the physical to get along and see what pain thier is when we rebel against each other or Yahweh?

I believe so.

The Sabbath is a day of rest. Doing it shows you believe Yahweh is the creator. Hebrews 4 says so.

We are also told before this day of rest to prepare.

Get ready for whats coming.

What is prophecy?

Is it to the believer a getiing ready or time to prepare for Yahshua's return?

It has to be.

The 1000 year sabbath of rest is the 7th thousandth year since modern man was made.

So the 6000th year which we are in is a time to prepare.

We have tons of warnings and signs we will see but this is not the objective to go about doing whatever untill we see these signs and warnings.

Or else it will come as a thief in the night.

We are told to watch be ready,be prepared.

We have lost what watching was and preparing for a day of just believe.

The virgins who's lamps went out.

Ps 119:105 My word is a lamp unto my feet.

A double meaning.

So why has he done what he has with us?

To teach us to prepare and see who wants to be Royalty enter the Marraige supper of the lamb and who will settle for being a priest.

So when we are turned to spirit and satan locked up forever at least thier will be no evil and we will be as Abraham was promiced as the stars of Heaven would be his descendents.

So what are all the stars or planets for?

Is thier plans for them to come?

We are being taught what life really is.

Thats what I believe at least..Blessings of Shalom...Miles

I think you just proved my point Miles. Drama.

"...and then man created god in his own image."
-Mahan Mahan

...because out of bad and evil, some good is defined. Think about it, what would mean good without evil? People dont believe in God because they dont make the intellectual effort and for most of the time, ask stupid questions such as "if He exists, why all that evil?" or "why doesnt He do something".

The truth is, they're lacking knowledge and would like to understand what's an integral when they barely can count to ten.

So here's my advice, in any effect there is a cause, hence the question is simple : "why did it happen?"... to answer the question, one is going to have to deal with different sciences, but surely light is going to sweep the darkness. Seeking knowledge is what we should all do in order to understand what is really "LIFE".

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Behold! in the creation of the skies and the earth, and the alternation of night and day, -there are indeed Signs for men of understanding.

Yeah, thanks to modern advances in science and technology, we're learning more and more about how planets, stars and galaxies are formed. And as far as the alternation of night and day, well the rotation of Earth around its axis and around the Sun has been known for centuries. Indeed these are signs for men to quit taking a fictional book such as the Bible so literally!