It probably came from hauling chemicals one way and High Fructose Corn Syrup the other way in the same tanker without proper cleaning. Seems I heard that one before...He!! big business doesn't need any over site, I trust them to do whats right!!!!!

Yeah, let's give the government the oversight. Big business surely will have a hard time dealing with whores. A reliable solution.

So my friend how do you suggest we proceed? You and I dont trust government and I for one dont trust big business. How do we keep our food supply safe?

What no ideas?

Come on no one has the answer!!!!

First. where is the constitutional permission for our government to mess with any food?

Second, it is not possible to be sure that our food supply is safe. We can only expect a certain grade of success.

Third, take a look at things not managed by government. Take computer processors, for instance. Is it possible that there will be a day that a lemon CPU will be sold to the public? Yes! Do we have the best of the best in that market? Yes! Does government control the "CPU industry"? Yes, a little bit, and may-be this is why it isn't as good as it could have been, but there isn't much control currently, which is why you always have the best and fastest CPU for you to consume - all for the price of breadcrumbs. How it this accomplished? Why neither Intel nor AMD produce things that just die right off, since together they have all the conventional CPU market?

This topic is longer than I can type here. Moreover, I doubt anyone really cares to know. I can say, that in short, the crime always start with the government. The government is the stimulator, the inventor, the facilitator and protector of anything bad and criminal that ever goes on in the markets with any consistency.

Remove the government and companies will have to compete at their very best. Because there is no body to bribe, because you have removed a briribable bully, a competition is then their only way to succeed. Bring in the government, and you show every business (run by sinners), that there is a way shorter way, it only takes a bribe to a dumb whore.

You say you do not trust big business. I do neither. Two points however: You seem to be typing now by utilizing a CPU, somehow it didn't let you down. Secondly, a big business becomes big ONLY through their friends in government. There is no other way. Show me a big business and I will show you the government briber. Because, when government is able to make any decisions on economic matters, it will always make it based on bribes it receives. When you create an entity that can control the market, it will, and never in your favor, since the other guy is paying more. This is the only and sole purpose of anyone trying to be the government - to be bribed. All the way to the president.

So, without government, is it possible that there will be a dumb peanut factory owner, who in his blind greed allowed for several people to be murdered? Of course. It is possible even with government controlling the food markets.

Is it possible that you will trip and fall? Yes. Can a government guarantee that you never will? No. But we can create the government and assign this duty, if we so desire. Immediately, this government will use it's newly attained powers to enrich themselves personally.

Just like any crime, there are always going to be murderers, whether they will be carrying blooded axes or business suitcases. No one is capable of stopping them. The role of the government, however, is to punish them after the fact, or before the fact if police is managed to stop a crime in progress. This is the constitutional role of government.

Yes its a Dell. Lets see had it one week and the screen went dead. Took it in and they just gave me a new one. One month later the hard drive went out. Again just gave me a new one. If that was food my friend I would probably be dead. Government is not the answer but what is? Sorry there is no quality contol on anything anymore. Every thing made now is disposable. That way they get you back sooner....I have a 36 in tv thats 4 yrs old and going out. Tvs use to last 20 years.

I agree Government is not the answer but I am suppose to trust business? Greed will always win out!!!!!!!

Greed will always exist, but since you aren't giving the big business the tool they could use to escape the consequences of bad product (when you do not allow government oversight), then they are limited to either suffering the consequences of misbehavior or competing to be the best.

I did not say anything about trusting anybody.

I use this as my guide: "do not trust (meaning anybody), do not fear, do not beg".

I fear nothing and never took anything I did not earn. I "Trust" my food supply. Grow my own and buy meat from a small local butcher who has been around for 30 years. Things do happen even with government oversight but I WILL NOT PUT MY FAITH IN PEOPLE POLICING THEMSELVES!!!! Sad thing and the reason I brought this up is there is NO SOLUTION!!!!!!!

Did you read the article?

"Although the makers of HFCS like to claim that it’s natural, it’s actually a highly refined product that would never exist in nature. Its manufacture involves an extensive process, one step of which is to separate corn starch from the corn kernel.

Caustic soda is used, among other things, to do this, and for decades mercury-grade caustic soda produced in industrial chlorine (chlor-alkali) plants has been used for this purpose.

Because mercury cells are used to produce some caustic soda, the caustic soda may become contaminated, and ultimately transfer that mercury contamination to the HFCS in your soda, salad dressing, soup, cereal, and so on"

I understand this is just written as a possibility, but it's still a possible explanation. Does that make me Batman?

Awhile back my mother read some health book that told of the "horrors" of HFCS. Well, we decided that we wouldn't buy any more foods that contained it.



It was insane! Yogurt, salad dressing, lemonade...the list went on and on. We cut back a lot, but I still don't think we eliminated it completely

Ok, last one (I think). I don't think the solution is to cut out government oversight completely. There is a reason these programs exist. Once upon a time we needed them.

I, for one, don't believe that the situation would be better without the FDA. If no one was watching and testing the product, how could we catch something like this? It's possible the company itself could catch it...but would they fix the problem if it would cut into their bottom line? You'd like to think so, but it's definetly not likely.

And yes, if someone's product ended up killing hundreds of people I'd assume that no one would continue to buy it (and only then after extensive media coverage)...but at what cost? And when it's something like this, something so insiduous, whose effects may not be known for decades, if ever...how would we even catch it without that oversight?

The bottom line is this: we do need something. Leaving these businesses completely alone would only further endanger all of our lives. I believe that there are many, many, MANY ways that our country could be better, but I will never believe that it's through completely stripping away everything.

I think I'll stick to dying with a smile on my face by eating what I like and want, and not give a sh!t about the rest.

Hell, if I paid attention to all the crap they say is in food that is bad for me, I wouldn't be eating anything!

Grow your own food, raise your own animals

That's a nice idea, but not realistic. Everyone should have their own farm? In order to grow enough food to feed your family year-round, that's what you'd have to do. And taking care of the crops and the animals takes time...so no one would have a job? I already wouldn't, since there would be no need for grocery stores, but what about the doctors, the lawyers, the teachers? When would they find the time to both work and tend to their animals and crops? I guess they could exchange their money for some of a local farmer's goods, but don't you think that where the modern grocery got started? We'd just start the cycle all over again. I think a much more realistic (well, not much more, lol) solution would be to fix what's wrong with our system now.

Kevin Trudeau has been attacking the FDA for over 10 years with his books and has mentioned many times that the food we eat is dangerous for us. He has also given alternatives on what to do.

Only a few listen or even research on this though and the rest of the nation end up swallowing pills at a ripe age to stay alive.

Many will never learn that the FDA wants us sick to help the Drug Administration earn trillions of dollars every quarter.

It is all a business for the very few who become extremely rich caring less if you are sick or dying.

Sure that makes you Batman... Didn't know Batman was a good looking woman...sure had me fooled!

HFCS has replaced sugar as the sweetener in many beverages and foods. A high consumer can take in about 20 teaspoons of HFCS per day. The chemical was found most commonly in HFCS-containing dairy products, dressings and condiments.

The use of mercury-contaminated caustic soda in the production of HFCS is common.


Sources:

Institute for Agriculture and Trade Policy January 26, 2009

Washington Post January 26, 2009

Environmental Health January 2009, 8:2

Why should they care? We don't care for them, they don't care for us. I don't expect anyone to care, and when someone says that he/she does, it pisses the hell out of me, since now I know that m-f is lying. (talking about people outside of family and friends).

As long as we expect things to be done properly because someone should care, this is like waiting for a fnking santa.

People will do things that are in their interest to do, not the things that some sucker thinks they ought to do.

Therefore, to apply this to food manufacture, competition is the only way, with government not having ANY say whatsoever in economics, as by constitution they don't, but instead minding their own constitutional business, and that is HANGING anyone who had caused intentional harm to someone else. This includes HANGING the owner and ALL OFFICERS of the corporation (by signature involvement) that sold poisoned peanuts.

This will solve everything, but as long the government is allowed to "make them do the right thing", you are just going to keep waiting for santa.

seems like at one times just about everything was bad for you