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Topic: Do Religion Train Women To Be Subservient
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Wed 02/18/09 08:10 PM

I worship women. Without the female body, man would not exist.


"FilmFreek" ..if one believes in Creation then Man could reproduce from his rib, if one believe in evolution reproduction first took place asexually

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Wed 02/18/09 08:14 PM
Look at the way women are treated in many islamic countries. They are without doubt treated as a lower class. Its more prevalent in these countries than many Christian nations, but im guessing that the Koran is no more disrespectful to woman than the Bible is.

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Wed 02/18/09 08:19 PM
Edited by Milesoftheusa on Wed 02/18/09 08:20 PM
How many of you non believers when you got married if you have. Did your bride to be wear a viel? or if you were the bride? Blessings...Miles

Dan99's photo
Wed 02/18/09 08:22 PM

How many of you non believers when you got married if you have. Did your bride to be wear a viel? Blessings...Miles


Some people get married in Churches and wear a big white dress with a viel just because it looks good.

Milesoftheusa's photo
Wed 02/18/09 08:26 PM
Edited by Milesoftheusa on Wed 02/18/09 08:28 PM


How many of you non believers when you got married if you have. Did your bride to be wear a viel? Blessings...Miles


Some people get married in Churches and wear a big white dress with a viel just because it looks good.


A bride with a viel is from the bible. So why would non believers want the bride to wear a viel?

Which is it. Women are subordent or not? Shalom..Miles

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Wed 02/18/09 08:27 PM

Women are not suppose to speak on religious matters when the man speaks, women are not suppose to be priest or be a member of the religious higher ruling order, , according to the bible god supposedly made women second from a man’s rib, women aren’t suppose to sit in the same vestibule as the pastor and the list goes on and on ..

Is it possible that the bible is used to train women to be subservient and accept abuse from the man ....in the bible women are treated horribly and considered lesser than a man…is this why many women are leaving religion and going in the direction of spirituality …

with all the education about mental abuse and it's effects,do it now appear that when it comes to religion mental abuse is acceptable and that religion actually trains and demand that women be submissive to the Man


Not only subservient but bad and evil to boot. Eve is the root of all bad that has happened to mankind, what a legacy!!!slaphead huh

Dan99's photo
Wed 02/18/09 08:32 PM



How many of you non believers when you got married if you have. Did your bride to be wear a viel? Blessings...Miles


Some people get married in Churches and wear a big white dress with a viel just because it looks good.


A bride with a viel if from the bible. So why would non believers want the bride to wear a viel?

Which is it. Women are subordent or not? Shalom..Miles


Like i said, it looks good.

Your question isnt the same as the one being posed. The question is Does RELIGION etc etc, not 'are women subordinate?'

Religion is pretty dead in the UK for the most part, and i would say women are generally not subordinate. In the countires where religion is much more prevalent, i would say women are very subordinate,

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Wed 02/18/09 08:39 PM




How many of you non believers when you got married if you have. Did your bride to be wear a viel? Blessings...Miles


Some people get married in Churches and wear a big white dress with a viel just because it looks good.


A bride with a viel if from the bible. So why would non believers want the bride to wear a viel?

Which is it. Women are subordent or not? Shalom..Miles


Like i said, it looks good.

Your question isnt the same as the one being posed. The question is Does RELIGION etc etc, not 'are women subordinate?'

Religion is pretty dead in the UK for the most part, and i would say women are generally not subordinate. In the countires where religion is much more prevalent, i would say women are very subordinate,


Why not?

I am just using the same type theory about what they say to the believer.

If the unbeliever bride or bride to be wore a viel.

Then it only stands to reason that the unbeliever who did believes that thier is a wicked man in the sky who told them to wear a viel.. Who tells them to stone children.

What kind of philosophy is that!!

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Wed 02/18/09 08:43 PM

The mighty Spartans respected their women and treated them as equals.

The Spartans in Sparta (supposingly) worshipped or believed in Greek Mythology that once was a religion in their times.

yet I am still not sure if the Spartan's participated in the Greek religion like the rest of the nation did.

for I am uncertain if Greek Mythology respected their women in general?

I just know from reading and watching documentaries that the Spartan's respected their women and even seeked advice on certain political matters.

So yes this would be an unusual event at its time for most of Europe as of the Middle East countries had a different view on how to treat their ladies due to their belief system they practiced.

and still do in some countries.


Spartan's were the exception to the rule. In general, Greek's treatment of women shifted slightly from city-state to city-state. Can't remember exact ones, but one city kept women on the second floors of the homes.

In one of the Greek plays, the 'hero' is being pursuade because of Matricide. But he argues his case before the statue of Athena that he can't possibly be guilty of matricide since women have no part of the children. Children were believed by this group to come completely from the father and the mother is just a vessel to incubate the child. And Athena sides with his argument.

Despite the movie, even the Spartans didn't view women as equal. The reason they allowed women to do more than elsewhere in Greece was because they believed for the warriors to be strong, they needed to have strong mothers. They viewed it as having the best breeders possible.

Moondark's photo
Wed 02/18/09 08:45 PM



How many of you non believers when you got married if you have. Did your bride to be wear a viel? Blessings...Miles


Some people get married in Churches and wear a big white dress with a viel just because it looks good.


A bride with a viel is from the bible. So why would non believers want the bride to wear a viel?

Which is it. Women are subordent or not? Shalom..Miles


It's called tradition and really has nothing to do with religion these days. Many just wear flowers or shiny bits.

Dan99's photo
Wed 02/18/09 08:45 PM





How many of you non believers when you got married if you have. Did your bride to be wear a viel? Blessings...Miles


Some people get married in Churches and wear a big white dress with a viel just because it looks good.


A bride with a viel if from the bible. So why would non believers want the bride to wear a viel?

Which is it. Women are subordent or not? Shalom..Miles


Like i said, it looks good.

Your question isnt the same as the one being posed. The question is Does RELIGION etc etc, not 'are women subordinate?'

Religion is pretty dead in the UK for the most part, and i would say women are generally not subordinate. In the countires where religion is much more prevalent, i would say women are very subordinate,


Why not?

I am just using the same type theory about what they say to the believer.

If the unbeliever bride or bride to be wore a viel.

Then it only stands to reason that the unbeliever who did believes that thier is a wicked man in the sky who told them to wear a viel.. Who tells them to stone children.

What kind of philosophy is that!!


Maybe i dont understand what you are aking me, im a little confused what point you are trying to make.

An unbeliever is an unbeliever. If they choose to wear a veil, it is not because god said so. Maybe god(or religion at least) began the tradition of it, but it stops there.

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Wed 02/18/09 08:57 PM




How many of you non believers when you got married if you have. Did your bride to be wear a viel? Blessings...Miles


Some people get married in Churches and wear a big white dress with a viel just because it looks good.


A bride with a viel is from the bible. So why would non believers want the bride to wear a viel?

Which is it. Women are subordent or not? Shalom..Miles


It's called tradition and really has nothing to do with religion these days. Many just wear flowers or shiny bits.


Indeed. Same as Christmas.

no photo
Thu 02/19/09 06:01 AM



How many of you non believers when you got married if you have. Did your bride to be wear a viel? Blessings...Miles


Some people get married in Churches and wear a big white dress with a viel just because it looks good.


A bride with a viel is from the bible. So why would non believers want the bride to wear a viel?

Which is it. Women are subordent or not? Shalom..Miles


"milesoftheusa"...isn't a veil sort of a striptease for the guy or maybe the woman have a zit ..women are a strange brew when it comes to clothes so a guy doesn't have that much say in what a women wears if they did the woman wouldn't have a closet full of shoes

also now when they read the vows much of the subservient honor and "obey" stuff is left out for the non-believers ...

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Thu 02/19/09 06:24 AM
Here's my take on the issue, accordin to the bible woman was made from Adam's rib correct? Well here's what I think. Women were not made from Adam's skull to be above him, nor made from his feet to be below him, but from his rib to walk beside him as an equal. Does religion teach to treat women as subservient. For the most part many religions treat and teach to treat women subservient. I as the strong woman that I am refuse to be treated in such a way or have my sons taught to treat myself or other women in such a way. There is good and bad traits in each gender, but as far as I'm concerned we are equals. I am no better than a man but I am definitely no less.shades

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Thu 02/19/09 11:01 AM
Edited by scttrbrain on Thu 02/19/09 11:01 AM


Women are not suppose to speak on religious matters when the man speaks, women are not suppose to be priest or be a member of the religious higher ruling order, , according to the bible god supposedly made women second from a man’s rib, women aren’t suppose to sit in the same vestibule as the pastor and the list goes on and on ..

Is it possible that the bible is used to train women to be subservient and accept abuse from the man ....in the bible women are treated horribly and considered lesser than a man…is this why many women are leaving religion and going in the direction of spirituality …

with all the education about mental abuse and it's effects,do it now appear that when it comes to religion mental abuse is acceptable and that religion actually trains and demand that women be submissive to the Man


Not only subservient but bad and evil to boot. Eve is the root of all bad that has happened to mankind, what a legacy!!!slaphead huh


What??? What???! Eve was the root of all evil???? Whatever.....who ate the supposed "apple"? Not only that...she was made from leftovers...a mans rib...something from close to his heart..ahemmmm...that's scarey....was her "evil" inherited?
Now..I am not down on men...but, this could go on and on.

Kat


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Thu 02/19/09 12:37 PM


I worship women. Without the female body, man would not exist.


"FilmFreek" ..if one believes in Creation then Man could reproduce from his rib, if one believe in evolution reproduction first took place asexually


Kinda like what came first? The chicken or the egg? Who cares? I like p*ssy! The art of reproduction is fun.

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