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Topic: Man Law! - part 39
AaronzDad's photo
Wed 02/18/09 02:37 PM

Hiya Myss and Skyy

That's all!

Headed back out again

See ya!

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Wed 02/18/09 02:38 PM

myssfytz's photo
Wed 02/18/09 02:39 PM


Hiya Myss and Skyy

That's all!

Headed back out again

See ya!




Ive heard of quickies, but DANG AD !!!


THAT was really quick !!!

myssfytz's photo
Wed 02/18/09 02:41 PM





Thats cute Dozz.



Not into the pic thing today on my side though.Feeling lazy.


How was yer day ??


And WTF were you doing here so EARLY in the morning today anyways ??


What time do you even go to work ??

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Wed 02/18/09 02:43 PM
Hi myss

I had the day off so I sleept in

on the days I go to work I get up about 2:00 and got to the gym then go to work

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Wed 02/18/09 02:46 PM

Hi myss

I had the day off so I sleept in

on the days I go to work I get up about 2:00 and got to the gym then go to work




Nice.


And is that 2 AM ??!!


Yikes !!!

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Wed 02/18/09 02:47 PM
yes it is

I am more motavated be for work

after wrok I like to just chil

myssfytz's photo
Wed 02/18/09 02:56 PM
Gotcha.


Whatever works for ya bro.


Im tired.I ate lunch today then took a nap in my car til my hour was up.


But I am still tired.


I need to get to bed earlier.


Think maybe Ill go laay down a byt and rest then if I awake, Ill be back on.


If not, good evening.


Sorry to post n run.

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Wed 02/18/09 02:57 PM
take care myss

and sweet dreams

AaronzDad's photo
Wed 02/18/09 03:34 PM
Hiya Doze!

What's new and exciting?

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Wed 02/18/09 03:38 PM
not much

the wind did stop that is nice

how are you today AD

AaronzDad's photo
Wed 02/18/09 03:43 PM

I'm doing OK. Business is still dead and that worries me a little.

You operate heavy machinery don't you? Earth moving equipment or something like that?

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Wed 02/18/09 03:44 PM
I'm still working on my paper.

Because I really can't decide whether to write about The Indian Wars or the Raid on Son Tay, I'm doing the proposal for both.

Stupid, huh?

It has to be about Intelligence, and that's what's making it so tough. The Indian Wars (Apache, 1861-1886) is a more original topis, but I can't put it all into a rational sequence.

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Wed 02/18/09 03:47 PM
yes a loader

for a concrete comp.

we are still slow to

they lade people off for the firs time ever this year

I hope it picks up soon

I think I will be on the list of layoffs if it dose not pick up soon

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Wed 02/18/09 03:49 PM
Hiya Skyy

What kinda paper do you have to write? How long I mean. The Apache fights were fascinating but would be hard to talk about from an "intel" viewpoint.

The US cavalry didn't have any intelligence so they fought the Apaches.

How's that for a paper?


AaronzDad's photo
Wed 02/18/09 03:50 PM
yes a loader

for a concrete comp.

we are still slow to

they lade people off for the firs time ever this year

I hope it picks up soon

I think I will be on the list of layoffs if it dose not pick up soon


That's what I was going to ask you Doze... sounds like it's slow everywhere.

And our idiot leaders are only making things worser and worser. grumble

zman000081's photo
Wed 02/18/09 03:52 PM
Is it dinner time yet? laugh

zman000081's photo
Wed 02/18/09 03:52 PM
Is it dinner time yet? laugh

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Wed 02/18/09 03:52 PM
yes they are

I guss they dont think the hole that has been made is big enugh they went to make it bigger

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Wed 02/18/09 03:56 PM

Hiya Skyy

What kinda paper do you have to write? How long I mean. The Apache fights were fascinating but would be hard to talk about from an "intel" viewpoint.

The US cavalry didn't have any intelligence so they fought the Apaches.

How's that for a paper?



Length isn't relevent.

I could make comparisons to Afghanistan, the terrain, border crossings, the need for native scouts.

The Indians used IMINT, to read a trail.

Indians were employed as spies on the reservations, as well as scouts.

They were great at disrupting communications. They would cut the telegraph lines and then tie the ends, so troops riding the line looking for the break couldn’t find it very easily. As a response, the US used heliographs. http://www.dself.dsl.pipex.com/MUSEUM/COMMS/heliograph/heliograph.htm


Somewhere, I feel the need to include that the Apache suffered under the Spanish and then the Mexicans. They fought to help the USA in the Mexican War. Then, the USA

I could look at low-intensity conflict lessons.

Gen. Crook’s innovations: mule packs and Apache scouts, since the whole cavalry was slow and never surprise the Indians. “It was only when General George Crook chased [us] with a column supplied by mule pack trains” one of Geronimo’s warriors remarked, “.that [we] had a hard time staying out of reach.”
Although it was not new to use Indians to fight Indians, Gen. Crook was the first to use scouts of the same tribe.
Crook included in his official report: “I cannot too strongly assert that there has never been any success in operations against these Indians, unless Indian scouts were used. These Chiricahua scouts...were of more value in hunting down and compelling the surrender of the renegades than all other troops...combined. The use of Indian scouts was dictated by the soundest of military policy”.

Crook started out mixing columns of cavalry and scouts, but eventually went to more and more scouts. In 1886, pursuing Geronimo, it was without cavalry.
Using Apache scouts was tactically brilliant and it also gave Crook a psychological advantage.
Crook was a real leader, first in the saddle, not expected his men to do something he wouldn’t do. That was very important in the harsh environment, that his men have good morale. He learned his topography and geography personally, not through reports.

But I just don’t know how to put it together, for this assignment. And what conclusion to make? What lesson is learned?

And I would like to include some stuff about broken trearties, the end results being the same as happened with the Versailled Treaty.

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