they dont make stuff like they used to hugh? we had to replace a radiator last week on a john deer 7530 that pulls a feeder.(for the record im a cowboy not an h.m. operator) used to be able to get em welded if its justa hole, now there using an aluminum core insted of copper! cant weld it have to pay $1100 for a new one. and aperantly radiators are goin out on the new 7530 all over the place. and guess what..MADE IN CHINA!!!
come on john deere!!!
good thing they dont bulid horses in china

Everything is made in China. Once I checked myself too, you know you never know.

Now Japanese horses, very dependable!!

There are a number of Radiator shops in Los Angeles that can make on custom for a lot less out of good old copper and brass!

I bet it would also be cheaper than Chinese over priced JUNK!

My woman negotiates the contracts for that very thing. Yet, Ironically enough, my brother works at John Deere hq (started in the foundry and worked his way to admin) so I am kind of torn on the outsourcing thing...

I do know this...aluminum welders are insanely expensive...(same with plastic welders)...but, with cost cutting...Americans would use the same thing but charge a hella lot more for it.

We are screwed bro.

And those pompous politicos out there in Washington D.C. scratch their heads as to why we're in such the pissy economic state we're in now...

I'm a musician by hobby and we're starting to see a major influx of cheap Chinese-made musical instruments in the stores now. This would be fine if they weren't made so friggin' poorly-

Since I play guitar, I'll limit my findings to just these instruments, but the same can be said for any such instrument-

- BADLY warped necks (the neck on a guitar is supposed to be straight, to help aid in performance as well as note quality... a warped neck will create dead notes and other maladies)

- tuning keys (also known as "machine heads) that wear out faster than you can say "I can't stay in tune!!!!".

- multi-piece guitar bodies that want to de-laminate at a moments notice, either through a lack of glue or improperly-bookmatched wood pieces.

- poorly-soldered guitar electronics on the electric guitars.

- guitar frets made of shoddy metals that will wear down much too quickly.

- finishes that are mixed so haphazardly that they want to crack and check with the slightest of climate changes.

In the end, it's all just another way how the corporate world will try to pull a fast one over the rest of us by getting us to pay top dollar for third-rate merchandise. You'd think the companies pulling this crap off would pass any savings they make from their outsourcing of product construction, but that's a laughable proposition at best.

i love their buffets

It amazes me how American flags are made in China.

call me narow minded but dam, its a pride thing.
i would gladly pay more for a reliable piece, and we did. i just feel let down, john deeres an american i con ya know.
and theres absolutly nothing better than the good ole american quarter horse! ( :

I donno Jason...Arabians (jumping horses) are great when slow grilled with pearl onions! But, Texas horses taste great too!!!!

Thanks NAFTA...We need to put "America" to work again....

Actually, it's the GATT treaty (or rather, the changes Bill Clinton made to it back in the late-90s) that allowed for the rather iniquitous trade arrangement we now have with China.

NAFTA was responsible for sending a great deal of manufacturing to Mexico, particularly that of the auto industry, where a great majority of vehicles are made nowadays. It also allowed for "runaway production", or the exodus of film and television productions that used to be filmed in California and the U.S. to Canada and later the Czech Republic, Australia, and New Zealand.

And no one as of yet has taken the account the impact NAFTA has had on the environment- after all, in shifting the manufacturing of products to Mexico, they've also shifted any responsibility as far as toxic clean ups and waste handling there as well. As a result, lead and mercury levels off the Western Mexican and Californian coast are at their highest levels in over a decade.

But Al Gore won't mention any of THAT stuff in his documentary though, right?

What needs to happen is a fundamental shift in national economic policy- we need to get away from wrong-headed and unfair "free trade" policies that have done nothing to help this country and shift to more of a "fair-trade" platform. If our international neighbors want to push their products onto our shores, then they have to take an equal number of our products as well.

Not only that, we have to have encourage a pro-American stance when it comes to manufacturing and other industries. The American middle-class has been beaten by the corporate world long enough.

Suffice it to say, "free trade" and globalization have failed completely and outright.

amen shady, and krupa...montana not texsas. dont get the two confused (: texas has her texan cowboy, montana has her northern range cowboy

You can buy an American flag with the label made in china too. An ongoing joke between me and my customer in singapore is that I can make my product cheaper stateside, and it's true.

I agree...you just stated it better..

Well... almost. I somehow forgot to state that NAFTA sent a log of formerly-American manufacturing to Mexico, which is still going on today.

And let's not forget CAFTA, which deals with the Central American countries. That's a whole other deal entirely.

Believe me Dude...I know...

this is what is in my back yard...





Sure we may not have the paddle cactus, mesquites and long horns in common...but I bet we got coyotes and buzzards in common.

Remember those Dewalt tools becoming popular like 10 years ago?
Used to be made in Sweden. Now in China and the quality down the drain. Not to mention the VW Jetta and Golf now assembled in Mexico for a decade (?) now (those, that you see in USA). Just to give you some inside info, the USA-VW cars even have a different paint code , I know because I used to paint them. It's a crappier quality paint.
You should try to test drive a made-in-germany VW vs. the Mexican version. You could actually feel the difference, I know I did.

Everything is the same way. No offense to any possible Chinese people here, but damnn..it's not you it's the stupid government and the contracts. I've seen pictures how the factories run there..like a fricking concentration camp.

Couple of years ago, some manager guy screwed up with something at the assembly line, so what the Chinese government do to him? He got a death penalty.

Either way you look at it, this gotta stop, I'm not even gonna mention beside the human rights violation, the environmental conditions and pollution China makes now with all the factories.

Wasn't aware there was a difference...but, now that you mentioned it...i'm sure there is..

yes ma am absolutly, texans or any south western cowboys are generly better ropers becuse in the thinck brush cactus they dont rely have alot of time to screw around, where as in the northern plains(mt, id, sd, nd..) we have lots more room and wide open space. but we also have alot more ground to cover and the tererain is rougher and weather more deadly so northern plains cowboys are generly more efficent horseman you see. (and say thatings like'you see' and 'eh'