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It looks like the plan that will be announced next week for the banks will be more of the same but with a tad bit more oversight. Once again the government will insure the "toxic assets" losses. The government should act like a private investor and snap up these assets at firesale prices for the taxpayers. No one from the Washington establishment or Wall Street should run the program. Actually, the last thing we need is government buying these up. Let them auction them to the general public like everybody else. If you had "deep Pockets" wouldn't you like to be buying oil at todays prices for resale when the price recovers? There is no market for the general public today. Nonsense. If they are being auctioned off at "firesale" prices as you put it, someone would buy them. Someone always does. |
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his first 2 plus weeks have been a disaster...from Gitmo...wrong...to $400 million to " educate "...third world countries about abortion...wrong...to...the new healthcare bill...wrong...to this stinking....rotten spending bill...wrong...I think the change he ran on...and what hes given us...are two different things...and...MOST Americans are already seeing it...well...non Liberals anyway...  Lets see... Hes obeyed the law by reversing the illegal policies of the Bush Administration. He's reached out a hand to third world countries to try and help them through education and diplomacy. Listening to the experts instead of taking the poster of the great decider. And he's made the White House more open to the average American so they can see what he's doing and respond through a web-site designed just for this purpose. He's done everything he has been able to accomplish to live up to his campaign promises despite the opposition from unamerican and spiteful members of the Republican Party. Yep! I say well done Mr. Obama...  He's done everything he has been able to accomplish to live up to his campaign promises despite the opposition from unamerican and spiteful members of the Republican Party. and...now MOST...of the American people...
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Barack Obama was born in Hawaii on August 4th, 1961. His father, Barack Obama Sr., was born and raised in a small village in Kenya. That's what is said and accepted most, but no one really knows exactly where he was truly born since Obama refuses to let his COLB be released to the public. This isn't true either, he did provide it. The issue was that the birth record said "copy" on it. But if you have ever got a "copy" of your birth certificate that is what it says, COPY. So it is bogus and a frivolous law suit to boot. No. The "issue" was that he released a digital image of his "Certification of Live Birth" instead of releasing his "Birth Certificate." Of course the State of Hawaii has already said they have his original birth certificate on file (Apparently some people think that the State of Hawaii would keep a foreign birth certificate for someone who wasn't adopted by US citizens...) and in Hawaii a "COLB" has equal legal standing as proof of birth as a "BC" does. He could release the super long redundant version of his supreme birth certificate with DNA samples from himself, his parents, and his grandparents, along with his school records, records of immunizations, etc. etc. etc. and there would still be people crying for something else to be provided. If he wasn't official before, the State of Hawaii has made him official now. That's why every case that has even brought his NBC status into question has been thrown out on its face. It has been thrown out because it is bogus and frivilous. And it is. There is no reason for all of this except the hatemongers in this country cannot stand the fact he is in office. Obviously they were out voted   Pretty much the only ones who are keeping the "not an NBC" thing going are the same people who think top level officials in our government have been replaced by extra-terrestrials and they have been secretly working since 1943 to get Barrack Obama elected as President. But we need a good conspiracy theory every now and then to lighten things up. I would not say that the only ones are the ones who believe in ET because you obviously know more about it than I do and I know the birth certificate thing is bogus and frivolous. 
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No He's the President... Actually, he's YOUR president, not mine. I refuse to accept someone as being president who wasn't even born in the United States. Everyone knows he was born in Kenya, well at least everyone who isn't ignorant or refuses to believe all the proof that has been presented. One more thing you should know, Hitler gave great speeches too... They proved that he was born in Hawaii. 
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No He's the President... Actually, he's YOUR president, not mine. I refuse to accept someone as being president who wasn't even born in the United States. Everyone knows he was born in Kenya, well at least everyone who isn't ignorant or refuses to believe all the proof that has been presented. One more thing you should know, Hitler gave great speeches too... They proved that he was born in Hawaii. Uncommon sense... |
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Barack Obama was born in Hawaii on August 4th, 1961. His father, Barack Obama Sr., was born and raised in a small village in Kenya. That's what is said and accepted most, but no one really knows exactly where he was truly born since Obama refuses to let his COLB be released to the public. personal question - would you want your birth certificate released to the public? I for one would not. twelve year old that play little league have to make their birth certificates available for scrutiny with signed and notorized affidavits of their authenticity My child doesn't have to do that. |
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It looks like the plan that will be announced next week for the banks will be more of the same but with a tad bit more oversight. Once again the government will insure the "toxic assets" losses. The government should act like a private investor and snap up these assets at firesale prices for the taxpayers. No one from the Washington establishment or Wall Street should run the program. Actually, the last thing we need is government buying these up. Let them auction them to the general public like everybody else. If you had "deep Pockets" wouldn't you like to be buying oil at todays prices for resale when the price recovers? There is no market for the general public today. Nonsense. If they are being auctioned off at "firesale" prices as you put it, someone would buy them. Someone always does. Investors are buying up foreclosures. The market is just too flooded right now. The general public is just trying to stay in their homes. It gonna take "deeper pockets" than investors to clear the system. Those "deeper pockets" being the amount of money the government can spend. Let's see. The government injected capital into the banks and that didn't work. Let's see. The government has issured some of the losses and that didn't work. At least the government would have something to show for the money spent. That being a house on a piece of property. Mortgages could be adjusted to keep people in their homes. And payments comes with interest. |
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It looks like the plan that will be announced next week for the banks will be more of the same but with a tad bit more oversight. Once again the government will insure the "toxic assets" losses. The government should act like a private investor and snap up these assets at firesale prices for the taxpayers. No one from the Washington establishment or Wall Street should run the program. Actually, the last thing we need is government buying these up. Let them auction them to the general public like everybody else. If you had "deep Pockets" wouldn't you like to be buying oil at todays prices for resale when the price recovers? There is no market for the general public today. Nonsense. If they are being auctioned off at "firesale" prices as you put it, someone would buy them. Someone always does. Investors are buying up foreclosures. The market is just too flooded right now. The general public is just trying to stay in their homes. It gonna take "deeper pockets" than investors to clear the system. Those "deeper pockets" being the amount of money the government can spend. Let's see. The government injected capital into the banks and that didn't work. Let's see. The government has issured some of the losses and that didn't work. At least the government would have something to show for the money spent. That being a house on a piece of property. Mortgages could be adjusted to keep people in their homes. And payments comes with interest. So your suggestion is to get the government into the mortgage business? That's surprising, given their complete incompetence in everything to date, even by your own admission. |
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his first 2 plus weeks have been a disaster...from Gitmo...wrong...to $400 million to " educate "...third world countries about abortion...wrong...to...the new healthcare bill...wrong...to this stinking....rotten spending bill...wrong...I think the change he ran on...and what hes given us...are two different things...and...MOST Americans are already seeing it...well...non Liberals anyway... Lets see... Hes obeyed the law by reversing the illegal policies of the Bush Administration. He's reached out a hand to third world countries to try and help them through education and diplomacy. Listening to the experts instead of taking the poster of the great decider. And he's made the White House more open to the average American so they can see what he's doing and respond through a web-site designed just for this purpose. He's done everything he has been able to accomplish to live up to his campaign promises despite the opposition from unamerican and spiteful members of the Republican Party. Yep! I say well done Mr. Obama... He's done everything he has been able to accomplish to live up to his campaign promises despite the opposition from unamerican and spiteful members of the Republican Party. and...now MOST...of the American people... You are giving a bit too much self importance to the minority aren't you. |
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Barack Obama was born in Hawaii on August 4th, 1961. His father, Barack Obama Sr., was born and raised in a small village in Kenya. That's what is said and accepted most, but no one really knows exactly where he was truly born since Obama refuses to let his COLB be released to the public. personal question - would you want your birth certificate released to the public? I for one would not. twelve year old that play little league have to make their birth certificates available for scrutiny with signed and notorized affidavits of their authenticity My child doesn't have to do that. if he's ever invited to play tournament ball, he will.. still no one seems to want to answer the question, why don't the House Democrats just pass the damn bill?? they're so bloody proud of it and think it's the right thing for the country, just pass the bill already and let the Republicans miss out on the ticker-tape parade that's sure to be thrown in honor of those that came riding in on gallant white horses to save the economy.. seems like a win-win for the Dems on Captial Hill if the bill is what they're telling the public it is.. |
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No He's the President... Actually, he's YOUR president, not mine. I refuse to accept someone as being president who wasn't even born in the United States. Everyone knows he was born in Kenya, well at least everyone who isn't ignorant or refuses to believe all the proof that has been presented. One more thing you should know, Hitler gave great speeches too... There is no proof presented but hoaxes. Obama was born in Hawaii, and to to frankly put it, he was born out of an American citizen's vagina, which makes him an American citizen right away. There is no other way to put it. Aparently, you're missing the part where Hawaii allows you to be a legal citizen of Hawaii and still be born in another country. BUT and this is a big but, that doesn't make the person a Natural Born citizen of the US and you must be a natural born citizen of the US to be the POTUS. Oh and for it being a big hoax, Obama's grandmother coming out and saying that she was at his birth in Kenya was definitely a fake correct? More hatemongering garbage, sorry some people are so full of hate they will buy anything they are fed even garbage.   Hmmmm....because a grandmother would so easily forget whether or not she was in Hawaii or in Kenya during the birth of her grandson? It has already been proven he is a citizen, only the truly hate filled are searching for a reason to not support him. It is all hatemongering garbage, there are no official sites with this information on it. I fail to support his policies... This statement just reinforces what Ive suspected for awhile now gio. You are unamerican. his first 2 plus weeks have been a disaster...from Gitmo...wrong...to $400 million to " educate "...third world countries about abortion...wrong...to...the new healthcare bill...wrong...to this stinking....rotten spending bill...wrong...I think the change he ran on...and what hes given us...are two different things...and...MOST Americans are already seeing it...well...non Liberals anyway... The money is not to educate third world countries about abortion. It's to educate poor women about women's health issues and birth control. What wrong with millions of uninsured children having insurance?
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WILLIAMSBURG, Va. — A fired-up Barack Obama ditched his TelePrompter to rally House Democrats and rip Republican opponents of his recovery package Thursday night – at one point openly mocking the GOP for failing to follow through on promises of bipartisanship. In what was the most pointedly partisan speech of his young presidency, Obama rejected Republican arguments that massive spending in the $819 billion stimulus bill that passed the House should be replaced by a new round of massive tax cuts. “I welcome this debate, but we are not going to get relief by turning back to the same policies that for the last eight years doubled the national debt and threw our economy into a tailspin,” said President Obama – sounding more like Candidate Obama than at any time since he took the oath of office less than a month ago. Obama, speaking to about 200 House Democrats at their annual retreat at the Kingsmill Resort and Spa, dismissed Republican attacks against the massive spending in the stimulus. "What do you think a stimulus is?" Obama asked incredulously. "It’s spending — that's the whole point! Seriously.” Stabbing hard at Republicans who once aligned themselves with his predecessor, Obama made it clear that the problems he seeks to address with his recovery plan weren’t ones of his making. “When you start hearing arguments, on the cable chatter, just understand a couple of things,” he said. “No. 1, when they say, ‘Well, why are we spending $800 billion [when] we’ve got this huge deficit?’ – first of all, I found this deficit when I showed up, No. 1. “I found this national debt, doubled, wrapped in a big bow waiting for me as I stepped into the Oval Office.” After his remarks, Obama, clearly caught up in the moment, made the party get-together feel even more like a campaign rally with his signature call-and-response chant. “Fired up?” he asked the Democratic lawmakers. “Ready to go!” a group of them shouted back. In his speech, Obama went on to contrast the kind words of House and Senate Republican leaders with their increasingly strident opposition to the stimulus package. “We were complimented by Republicans saying, ‘This is a balanced package . . . we’re pleasantly surprised,’” he said. “Suddenly, what was a ‘balanced package’ is suddenly out of balance.” As the Senate deliberated in Washington – and packed it in for the night without finalizing a deal — Obama brushed pressed House Democrats to finalize the bill "without delay" when it emerged from the upper chamber. "Let's think big right now," the president urged House Democrats. "Let's not think small." Obama’s words bore only a vague resemblance to the prepared remarks the White House distributed to reporters as he began to speak. House Majority Whip James Clyburn (D-S.C.) said Obama appeared to ditch his TelePrompter about a third of the way through the speech. “He went to his heart, I think he spoke from his heart,” Clyburn said. “He went back to being the Barack Obama that Americans fell in love with when they went to the polls.” Despite the hero's welcome Obama got in Williamsburg, there remain some skeptics of the plan within his own party. But if there was any tension between Obama and the House Democrats, it was hard to see it in the room. Before Obama spoke, House Democrats and their spouses posed for cell phone photos with the president – and even with White House spokesman Robert Gibbs. His chief of staff, Rahm Emanuel, gobbling berries and cream in white shirtsleeves, rushed out of the hall at one point, barking into his cell phone along the way as he wove between tables packed with his former House colleagues. When Obama finally spoke, he called Pelosi “a rock” and “the great speaker of the House.” And he said that House Appropriations Committee Chairman David Obey and other House chairmen had acted with “discipline” in passing their version of the stimulus bill. And while Obama said Americans are looking for the parties to work together on the stimulus, he said that it’s time to move past “the false theories of the past,” including the notion that tax cuts could cure all ills. In the process, he reminded the Democrats in the room – and the Republicans back in Washington – that he won the election in November. “If you’re headed for a cliff, you’ve got to change direction,” Obama said. “That’s what the American people called for in November, and that’s what we intend to deliver.” But Democrats have their work cut out for them if they are going to approve the package without any GOP votes. As Obama circled the room and posed for photos before he spoke, a person in the room spotted Phil Schiliro, the president’s top legislative liaison, huddled in a tense conversation with Obey, the principal author of the House — a reminder that the bill still has a ways to go. Read the rest here; http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20090206/pl_politico/18482 I wrote to my representatives, senators and President Obama about this bill. I told them to cut the fat off of it and make sure that the stimulus in the bill will help the average citizen now not later. But President Obama is doing what the expert told him to do to stave off depression and that is to flood the system with cash. So he is right, it is a spending bill. Obviously tax breaks to the rich did not work, that is where we just came from. I don't blame Obama. There is a possibility his ignorance is getting in the way of his better judgement. Can't help but think this was much of Bush's problem as well... When you get a bunch of "experts" giving advice on how to keep a broken system going just a little longer, it's hard to ignore. He is too inexperienced to live up to his "change" philosophy. Being a lawyer doesn't help when it comes to economic issues. I do see him trying though. Even if it's just a little, trying is the first step. |
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It looks like the plan that will be announced next week for the banks will be more of the same but with a tad bit more oversight. Once again the government will insure the "toxic assets" losses. The government should act like a private investor and snap up these assets at firesale prices for the taxpayers. No one from the Washington establishment or Wall Street should run the program. Actually, the last thing we need is government buying these up. Let them auction them to the general public like everybody else. If you had "deep Pockets" wouldn't you like to be buying oil at todays prices for resale when the price recovers? There is no market for the general public today. Nonsense. If they are being auctioned off at "firesale" prices as you put it, someone would buy them. Someone always does. Investors are buying up foreclosures. The market is just too flooded right now. The general public is just trying to stay in their homes. It gonna take "deeper pockets" than investors to clear the system. Those "deeper pockets" being the amount of money the government can spend. Let's see. The government injected capital into the banks and that didn't work. Let's see. The government has issured some of the losses and that didn't work. At least the government would have something to show for the money spent. That being a house on a piece of property. Mortgages could be adjusted to keep people in their homes. And payments comes with interest. So your suggestion is to get the government into the mortgage business? That's surprising, given their complete incompetence in everything to date, even by your own admission. No one from the Washington establishment or Wall Street should run the program but I'm sure people that were honest, qualified, and experienced could be found. |
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Barack Obama was born in Hawaii on August 4th, 1961. His father, Barack Obama Sr., was born and raised in a small village in Kenya. That's what is said and accepted most, but no one really knows exactly where he was truly born since Obama refuses to let his COLB be released to the public. personal question - would you want your birth certificate released to the public? I for one would not. twelve year old that play little league have to make their birth certificates available for scrutiny with signed and notorized affidavits of their authenticity My child doesn't have to do that. if he's ever invited to play tournament ball, he will.. still no one seems to want to answer the question, why don't the House Democrats just pass the damn bill?? they're so bloody proud of it and think it's the right thing for the country, just pass the bill already and let the Republicans miss out on the ticker-tape parade that's sure to be thrown in honor of those that came riding in on gallant white horses to save the economy.. seems like a win-win for the Dems on Captial Hill if the bill is what they're telling the public it is.. Again, my child doesn't have to do that. They play in tournaments. |
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It looks like the plan that will be announced next week for the banks will be more of the same but with a tad bit more oversight. Once again the government will insure the "toxic assets" losses. The government should act like a private investor and snap up these assets at firesale prices for the taxpayers. No one from the Washington establishment or Wall Street should run the program. Actually, the last thing we need is government buying these up. Let them auction them to the general public like everybody else. If you had "deep Pockets" wouldn't you like to be buying oil at todays prices for resale when the price recovers? There is no market for the general public today. Nonsense. If they are being auctioned off at "firesale" prices as you put it, someone would buy them. Someone always does. Investors are buying up foreclosures. The market is just too flooded right now. The general public is just trying to stay in their homes. It gonna take "deeper pockets" than investors to clear the system. Those "deeper pockets" being the amount of money the government can spend. Let's see. The government injected capital into the banks and that didn't work. Let's see. The government has issured some of the losses and that didn't work. At least the government would have something to show for the money spent. That being a house on a piece of property. Mortgages could be adjusted to keep people in their homes. And payments comes with interest. So your suggestion is to get the government into the mortgage business? That's surprising, given their complete incompetence in everything to date, even by your own admission. No one from the Washington establishment or Wall Street should run the program but I'm sure people that were honest, qualified, and experienced could be found. Great. You realize you stopped making sense a couple of posts ago, right? |
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his first 2 plus weeks have been a disaster...from Gitmo...wrong...to $400 million to " educate "...third world countries about abortion...wrong...to...the new healthcare bill...wrong...to this stinking....rotten spending bill...wrong...I think the change he ran on...and what hes given us...are two different things...and...MOST Americans are already seeing it...well...non Liberals anyway... Lets see... Hes obeyed the law by reversing the illegal policies of the Bush Administration. He's reached out a hand to third world countries to try and help them through education and diplomacy. Listening to the experts instead of taking the poster of the great decider. And he's made the White House more open to the average American so they can see what he's doing and respond through a web-site designed just for this purpose. He's done everything he has been able to accomplish to live up to his campaign promises despite the opposition from unamerican and spiteful members of the Republican Party. Yep! I say well done Mr. Obama... He's done everything he has been able to accomplish to live up to his campaign promises despite the opposition from unamerican and spiteful members of the Republican Party. and...now MOST...of the American people... You are giving a bit too much self importance to the minority aren't you. Didn't most of the voters vote for him? |
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Not that it's not totally beside the point, but what organized baseball league doesn't require proof of age? Pony league and little league both require proof of age before the kid can even play in spring.
On point though, someone please tell me why the Democrats insist on "bipartisan" passage of the bill?? and in what world does any president expect no opposition in passing a spending bill, especially one the unprecidented size such as the one currently under consideration??? |
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No He's the President... Actually, he's YOUR president, not mine. I refuse to accept someone as being president who wasn't even born in the United States. Everyone knows he was born in Kenya, well at least everyone who isn't ignorant or refuses to believe all the proof that has been presented. One more thing you should know, Hitler gave great speeches too... There is no proof presented but hoaxes. Obama was born in Hawaii, and to to frankly put it, he was born out of an American citizen's vagina, which makes him an American citizen right away. There is no other way to put it. Aparently, you're missing the part where Hawaii allows you to be a legal citizen of Hawaii and still be born in another country. BUT and this is a big but, that doesn't make the person a Natural Born citizen of the US and you must be a natural born citizen of the US to be the POTUS. Oh and for it being a big hoax, Obama's grandmother coming out and saying that she was at his birth in Kenya was definitely a fake correct? More hatemongering garbage, sorry some people are so full of hate they will buy anything they are fed even garbage. Hmmmm....because a grandmother would so easily forget whether or not she was in Hawaii or in Kenya during the birth of her grandson? It has already been proven he is a citizen, only the truly hate filled are searching for a reason to not support him. It is all hatemongering garbage, there are no official sites with this information on it. I fail to support his policies... This statement just reinforces what Ive suspected for awhile now gio. You are unamerican. his first 2 plus weeks have been a disaster...from Gitmo...wrong...to $400 million to " educate "...third world countries about abortion...wrong...to...the new healthcare bill...wrong...to this stinking....rotten spending bill...wrong...I think the change he ran on...and what hes given us...are two different things...and...MOST Americans are already seeing it...well...non Liberals anyway... The money is not to educate third world countries about abortion. It's to educate poor women about women's health issues and birth control. What wrong with millions of uninsured children having insurance? fewer NOT more abortions is a good thing...right ?...if you're poor...DON'T GET PREGNANT !!!!...secondly...they're Illegal aliens...ask any American if we should be footin' the medical bills for illegals...I'll take that bet !...most Americans...or should I say non Liberals...would say HELL NO !!!!!!!! |
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Not that it's not totally beside the point, but what organized baseball league doesn't require proof of age? Pony league and little league both require proof of age before the kid can even play in spring. On point though, someone please tell me why the Democrats insist on "bipartisan" passage of the bill?? and in what world does any president expect no opposition in passing a spending bill, especially one the unprecidented size such as the one currently under consideration??? When my child was younger, I just wrote the date of birth on the application. Now they play in a different level. I used a state ID to get the ID for them to play. No birth certificate. The reason that I already had a state ID was for them to be allowed to get on an airplane. Also, my child has attended 2 private schools. I didn't need a birth certificate there either. I wrote in the date of birth on the applications. |
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$1 billion for Amtrak, which hasn’t earned a profit in four decades.
$2 billion to help subsidize child care. $400 million for research into global warming. $2.4 billion for projects to demonstrate how carbon greenhouse gas can be safely removed from the atmosphere. $650 million for coupons to help consumers convert their TV sets from analog to digital, part of the digital TV conversion. $600 million to buy a new fleet of cars for federal employees and government departments. $75 million to fund programs to help people quit smoking. $21 million to re-sod the National Mall, which suffered heavy use during the Inauguration. $2.25 billion for national parks. This item has sparked calls for an investigation, because the chief lobbyist of the National Parks Association is the son of Rep. David R. Obey, D-Wisc. The $2,25 billion is about equal to the National Park Service’s entire annual budget. The Washington Times reports it is a threefold increase over what was originally proposed for parks in the stimulus bill. Obey is chairman of the House Appropriations Committee. $335 million for treatment and prevention of sexually transmitted diseases. $50 million for the National Endowment for the Arts. $4.19 billion to stave off foreclosures via the Neighborhood Stabilization Program. The bill allows nonprofits to compete with cities and states for $3.44 billion of the money, which means a substantial amount of it will be captured by ACORN, the controversial activist group currently under federal investigation for vote fraud. Another $750 million would be exclusively reserved for nonprofits such as ACORN – meaning cities and states are barred from receiving that money. Sen. David Vitter, R-La., charges the money could appear to be a “payoff” for the partisan political activities community groups in the last election cycle. $44 million to renovate the headquarters building of the Agriculture Department. $32 billion for a “smart electricity grid to minimize waste. $87 billion of Medicaid funds, to aid states. $53.4 billion for science facilities, high speed Internet, and miscellaneous energy and environmental programs. $13 billion to repair and weatherize public housing, help the homeless, repair foreclosed homes. $20 billion for quicker depreciation and write-offs for equipment. $10.3 billion for tax credits to help families defray the cost of college tuition. $20 billion over five years for an expanded food stamp program. |
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