So...I wonder...will good neocon women refuse pay raises?

I am sure those that think a woman's place is in the home will be upset by this development. Imagine...women and men doing the same job making the same amount of money!

If that's not a liberal concept that is destructive to family values I don't know what is!! /smirk

It's a great day for all working women.

Obama Signs Equal Pay for Equal Work Bill
Ending Gender Pay Discrepancies: The New Legislation Amends the 1964 Civil Rights Act
By CLAIRE SHIPMAN, SUSAN RUCCI, IMAEYEN IBANGA and NITYA VENKATARAMAN
Jan. 28, 2009

Calling pay equity not a women's issue but a family issue, President Obama today signed a new bill seeking to end decades-long pay disparities between men and women.
President Obama signs the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Restoration Act.

Joined in the East Room of the White House by Nancy Pelosi, the first female speaker of the House, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, first lady Michelle Obama and Lilly Ledbetter, the 70-year-old tire plant supervisor for whom the bill is named, Obama said it was "fitting that the very first bill I signed -- the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Restoration Act -- is upholding one of this nation's founding principles: That we are all created equal and each deserve a chance to pursue our own version of happiness."

The equal-pay bill ends a 2007 U.S. Supreme Court decision saying that employees had only 180 days to file pay-discrimination lawsuits and is expected to make it easier for workers to sue for decades-long discrimination.

Ledbetter filed a 1998 suit against a Goodyear Tire Rubber Co. plant in Gadsen, Ala., after learning that men working in the same position were making more money. In 2007, the Supreme Court ruled in a 5-4 vote that Ledbetter had waited too long to sue, since she brought the suit near the end of her 19-year career with the company.

Only problem is women don't necessarily want an equal share of the same job. Like lifting heavy boxes, carrying things up flights of stairs, and other "manly" activities.

Not trying to generalize, I know there are some women out there who get it, and do it. But for the most part, women want equal benefits and recognition, without equal responsibilities.

It says equal pay for equal work.....

Congratulation Ladies!

For EQUAL work.
Personally, I have never taken a family leave yet.

Are you insinuating that women should get paid less because they can get pregnant?

I think pay should not be dependent on a persons gender. It should be dependent on the colour of their skin

I am INSINUATING what I have already written. That is:
EQUAL pay for EQUAL work. Being at work when you expected to, surprisingly, is part of work too.

I know several men who have taken family leave time when a child was born or when one of their parents became ill.

Guess that means those men aren't equal to some posters here.

Might mean they are better men than some posters here.

These men may be better or worse from your obscure view, but the topic of conversation is not whether we should be paid according to how Lynann thinks of us. It is about getting paid equally for equal work.

This means work, performed for employer. If you work on your own "labor", that is work to, but it is only valuable to your husband. He should pay for it, if he cares.

They're not getting paid when they are on leave.

They do get paid if they have ST Disability as well as women or time to use....women dont just get paid for leave they have to have time for it or ST Disability....and men get the same amount of leave time to bond with there child as women do!! This is under the FMLA.... but an employmee must be employeed for at least 12 months b4 recieving FMLA

"These men may be better or worse from your obscure view, but the topic of conversation is not whether we should be paid according to how Lynann thinks of us. It is about getting paid equally for equal work."

I never linked my estimate of your character or lack of it to what you should be paid.

But they are not at work. This hurts the business. I wouldn't want anyone less reliable working for me if I can have more reliable for the same money. So, they way to justify this, is obviously, to pay less.

Less reliable is the not the same as being out because of pregnancy, illness or an unexpected accident.

O.K., folks. There must be some vast conspiracy going then. Obviously, employers could have gotten savings, by paying men the same as they pay those reliable and hardworking women. But they just wont.

They just wont, and they keep paying men more purely cause they hate women.

Did you read why this was passed? What happened with this woman?

I absolutely agree with equal pay/equal work. I used to pay piece rate, and had men and women working side by side. The jobs were pretty tough, physically and intellectually; and a lot of stress. The men made an average of about 4 times per week what the women did. I ended up in court over wage discrimination, filed by a bunch of the women. I won, at the cost of about $35K in lawyer fees, because I had all the daily production totals by individual. Turns out the ladies wanted equal pay for less work. Haven't hired any women since....lol...not worth it. I just created a test of abilities that shows whether a prospective employee has a chance of making a living in my line of work. Unfair? perhaps, but it gives me a true measure of whether they will succeed or not. and if a lady performed well enough, she would be hired.

Where will the socialism end though, and at what point do we keep our rights? Do we tell private industry how to run there businesses?? NO!! And we definitely should never bail them out either!! Our government is failing why prolong it. Let it fall. What is the worst thing that will happen, we will rebuild from the ashes?? What is everyone so pansy a$sed about?? Isn't it a good thing what is wrong with restructure??