Topic: this is really sad... prayers needed
Queene123's photo
Wed 01/28/09 11:36 PM
BAY CITY, Mich. - When neighbors went inside Marvin Schur's house, the windows were frosted over, icicles hung from a faucet, and the 93-year-old World War II veteran lay dead on the bedroom floor in a winter jacket over four layers of clothing.

He froze to death — slowly and painfully, authorities say — days after the electric company installed a power-limiting device because of more than $1,000 in unpaid bills.

The old man's sad end two weeks ago has led to outrage, soul-searching and a resolve never to let something like this happen again.

There's got to be a way in today's computer age they can find out if someone's over a certain age," said Chad Sepos, 37, a copy machine installer who lives a block away in this Lake Huron city of 34,000 people, about 90 miles from Detroit. "It's just sad."

Retired and living alone
One of the saddest things of all was that Schur appeared to have plenty of money, and, in fact, one of the neighbors who entered the home reported seeing cash clipped to a pile of bills on the kitchen table. Schur's nephew suggested the old man's mind may have been slipping.

Schur, or "Mutts," was a retired foundry worker who lived alone, his wife having died a couple of years ago. The couple had no children. He could often be seen through the big front window of his comfortably furnished home of 50 or 60 years, watching TV or keeping an eye on his neighborhood.

On Jan. 13, a worker with the city-owned utility installed a "limiter" on Schur's electric meter after four months of unpaid bills. The device restricts power and blows like a fuse if usage rises past a set level. Electricity is not restored until the device is flipped back on by the homeowner, who must walk outside to the meter.

City Electric Light & Power did not contact Schur face-to-face to notify him of the device and explain how it works, instead following its usual policy by leaving a note on the door. But neighbors said Schur rarely, if ever, left the house in the cold.

At some point, the device evidently tripped and was not reset, authorities said. Schur's home was heated by a gas furnace, not electricity, but some gas furnaces do not work properly if the power is out.

Oven door was open
Neighbors discovered Schur's body on Jan. 17 in his home, a yellow house with peeling paint. The outside temperature ranged from a high of 12 degrees to a low of minus 9 on Jan. 15, the day he was believed to have died. A heating pad was on his favorite armchair by the window. The oven door was open, perhaps to heat the place.

"The body has a tremendous fighting power for survival. He died a slow, painful death," said Dr. Kanu Virani, who found frostbite on Schur's foot when performing the autopsy. Investigators are trying to establish how long he was without electricity.

Army_Strong's photo
Wed 01/28/09 11:41 PM
That's really sad. :cry: hopefully the nephew finds a way of suing or something.

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Thu 01/29/09 10:57 AM
Prayers are needed? Where was this God when the man was freezing to death? If he didn't give a flying flip before the man died, I seriously doubt he gives a flying flip now.

Army_Strong's photo
Thu 01/29/09 12:52 PM

Prayers are needed? Where was this God when the man was freezing to death? If he didn't give a flying flip before the man died, I seriously doubt he gives a flying flip now.


Pretty much *Shrugs*

hellkitten54's photo
Thu 01/29/09 03:37 PM

Prayers are needed? Where was this God when the man was freezing to death? If he didn't give a flying flip before the man died, I seriously doubt he gives a flying flip now.


Exactly what I was thinking.

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Thu 03/12/09 01:28 PM
By the by, turns out this man had plenty of money to pay his bills.

Army_Strong's photo
Thu 03/12/09 02:11 PM

By the by, turns out this man had plenty of money to pay his bills.


Yead didn't he leave a nice hunk of change to a hospital?

Lynann's photo
Thu 03/12/09 02:16 PM
This happened several months ago and has brought some change to the policies regarding the use of limiters.

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Thu 03/12/09 02:16 PM


By the by, turns out this man had plenty of money to pay his bills.


Yead didn't he leave a nice hunk of change to a hospital?


I do believe so.

yellowrose10's photo
Thu 03/12/09 02:17 PM
if he had money....why didn't he pay the bills?

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Thu 03/12/09 02:20 PM
Probably had other issues going on. Diminished mental capacity maybe.

yellowrose10's photo
Thu 03/12/09 02:24 PM
that could be true as well. he didn't have family or anyone to check on him or help with bills?

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Thu 03/12/09 02:27 PM

that could be true as well. he didn't have family or anyone to check on him or help with bills?


Apparently not...........thats what is sad.

yellowrose10's photo
Thu 03/12/09 02:28 PM
yes it is. i can't believe anyone let it get that far.

think2deep's photo
Thu 03/12/09 03:37 PM
this is common among dementia patients. i'm surprised he didn't have a social worker to help him with such things.

noblenan's photo
Thu 03/12/09 04:09 PM

this is common among dementia patients. i'm surprised he didn't have a social worker to help him with such things.


Making welfare checks is not the focus of most state paid Social Workers. Law-enforcement agencies and Adult Protective Services only learns about folks when they are reported. If there was not family or close friends, he probably never became know to a social service agency, or refused services (his right). People refuse public and private services every day, particularly those who are afraid they are going to be placed in a nursing home if it is discovered they can not take care of themselves. It's quite sad.

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