I just finish reading "23 minutes in hell" by Bill Wiese and comparing
his notes with the bible. Guys is really scary whether we believe it or
not hell is real and according to the bible is

Somewhere upon of the earth their is a shaft.the entrance
of this shaft leads down into the heart of the earth where hades
exists. Hades is often translate "Hell" in the bible. Hell does exits is
in the center of the earth...is divide in two parts
in one part is where everybody who died goes to....and deep deep down is
for the sinners.

Hell was creat it for satan and his angels to sufer, but now is also
where all the sinners go to suffer eternaly.if where our bodies shall be
tormented in every part in the flames of hellfire.the pains of hell fire
will be thousand times more horrible and tormenting.Their is no water,
no food, no light,
only pain and demons to torment you, cell and bars, pits and caves,,,,no
sleep, no one to speak to. they are nake it and all you can hear is
screams,laments, people crying, trying to escape from those pits , and
different degree of punishments,some people sufer more than others
according to their sins.

It is really scare me guys, I sure would't want to go their
so I am enclosing a prayer just in case you want to accept God in your
hearts.

"Dear God I confessI am a sinner.Thank you
that Jesus took my punishment upon himself when
he died on the cross for my sins. and the rose
from the dead, defeaning death. today I repent
and place my trust in jesus crist alone for my
salvation. in jesus name i pray......amen

Yes I do believe in Hell too Michy. I do not believe that us
humans can understand or perceive Hell as it really is. I think
that there are different levels of Hell as you said, according to our
sins. The pain and torment is so excrutiating because our Spirits are
separated from the Love of God. Human Spirits
are a part of God here to do His will. Its all about LOVE. Sin
separates us from that love, but we are human and have been given the
gift of free will. We choose to sin or not to sin.
We choose to repent for those sins or not, also. Im choosing
Gods' way of LOVE. How about you?

sexymichy220 your prayer was sweet and genuine I can tell. Dee Dee I
choose God too. I am a true beleiver and don't try to push it on others
but will profess my faith anywhere, anytime.

Yes, I beleive in Hell but am not afraid of it or its King.

My pastor said that when we die saved souls go directly to heaven and
then when Jesus comes again, out bodies will be sent up to meet us and
we will be made one. I'd rather think of it that way then just lying in
limbo or worse yet going to Hell for a time.

We are all sinners but through the Grace of God can be saved.

Well, I'm going to step out on a big limb here and say, no, I don't
believe in hell. I had been a Christian for a long time and spent many
hours with scripture and in fellowship with educated clergy folks.
Everyone has to believe what they feel is right in their own heart. My
years of Chrisianity built me a large respect for Jesus Christ, and a
larger sense that man has no idea what is going on in the world of the
spirit, the creator, and the afterlife.

What do I believe? I believe in a God that would not banish men to burn
and be tormented. I guess I just can't live a life where I think God
would blame people for making mistakes and not being able to sort out
all this confusion. Man has passed the Holy scriptures down from
century to century. With all the supposed evil that has existed is it
really possible that no man has altered the scripture for his own
purposes. Just look at how many different religions exist just as
Christianity, and they do not all agree what is sin, and what are the
rules to worship God.

The spiritual world, be it Christian, Muslim, Pagan, or whatever
requires faith. Faith is the idea that you "know" something is right
without proof that it is actually right. YOU can "know" and YOU can
have personal proof, but it cannot be proven to someone that does not
share your faith. So in the end I respect your right to think there is
a hell, but do not shed a tear for me going there, because my faith
tells me it does not exist.

Live and live.
Cheers,
Dave

Right on Dave. Faith is an awesome healer.

i agree with you that the book could have been altered and it most
likely was. i do believe in hell but i don't think that you go to hell
just for making mistakes. i think your true intentions and your true
willingness and desire to repent and ask for forgiveness is taken into
account. there are no perfect people anywhere on this earth and heaven
will be inhabited by unperfect people but there will be signs of
atonement in thes people that will be spared from the torture. you
really can't have good without evil because they set the standard and i
also believe that GOD is a kind and loving GOD but it doesn't mean that
he is a pushover for sobbing eyes with bad intentions. i believ when you
go to hell it is a symbol of your rejection of GODS love and
unwillingness to repent and ask forgiveness and be sincere about it when
you do it. GOD doesn't intentionally
torture someone, he gave us free will and those people chose to be
tortured by giving into temptation and rejecting HIS love by not asking
for forgiveness and repenting. hell is truly a separation from GODS love
so you are no longer u8nder HIS care so the devil is free to do whatever
he wants. i don't believe that heaven and hell are physical places but
eternal states of either peace or torment according to how you lived
your life and i don't think alot of people are truly prepared for what
kind of torture they are gonna face because as bad and nasty as this
world seems, it ain't shit compared to what hell is gonna be like.

Don't be scared of Hell.
Don't create your own Hell on Earth.
Live to love.
Love to live.

that is good advice jimi. i think people should just live life and try
to be the best person they can be but some people are constitutionally
incapable of not worrying about it, that's what keeps alot of people in
the religions. i would rather live my life with a love of GOD than a
fear of GOD. the results are low stress and a carefree(not careless)
attitude.

Not in the general sence of hell.

I believe that hell is a state of mind only.

Hell like the Devil I believe was created by organised religion to
control the masses.

Ghostrecon

ok this will take me a while to be able to give you the correct
information on this including exact quotes from the bible and yes hell
is real but not like you said in your post it's almost nothing like that
i will do some indepth reasearch on this and get back with another post
but expect to do alot of reading till then take care

this will take me longer than i thought so it may be a couple of days so
look for a post it will be something like heaven and hell as depicted in
the bible ,

take care everyone and god bless

Listen mitch

All the reading to me is pointless if you are trying to convert ppl. But
go ahead, knock yourself out.
I stand by my convictions and have no room for changing it. I neither
feel I have to prove or dis prov anything. I have to only prov to myself
and blee blee blee thats all folk.

Porkypigs ghost

no ghost i'm not trying to convert anyone, but the info in the post was
in accurate so im just trying to set the record straight if i'm talking
religion and some one doesn't want to hear I won't force them

me too deede.........I rather be in the light than in the dark beside I
hate summer imagine and try to stay away from the sun, imagine me
sorrounded with fire not good at all.....I don't want to be left behind
either, when comes to get his choosen ones......have you seen the "left
behind" series? is great.

really wendy? I didn't know that when I was checking the bible to
compare it to what the writter was saying I read that our souls and
bodies stay together until judment day....unless you are one of the
choosen one he has already choosen and your name is already written in
the book of life, you will be taken away then in the rapture only your
clothes will be left behind along with those that are not in the list.

Those left behind will have to face the antcrist and wait for judment
day and the coming of Jesus in the second coming.

At least that what I read and been told.

well mitch be my guest the information I quoting here was from the bible
the guy in the book in the back got a long list and index of scripture
from the bible so you can go and look for them yourself from the
bible.... and yes I do believe someone has try to change for their own
purpose that word of god from the bible.....whoever it is, the punish me
they will received it will ten times worst than anything we have seen or
are going to see.

Hi all! Interesting subject. I did research on it years ago and found
some information that has been forgotten over time. I believe that we
are supernatural creatures and that we lost it from original sin. So
now that we live in a natural state our souls are constantly searching
for the supernatural state where we truly belong. Hell is a
supernatural place and cannot be conceived by our futile brains. We can
try to understand it but it is difficult. Imagine falling off a cliff.
When u cross the plains of hell, u remain in that position of how u are
falling for all eternity. Pain #1. Then u get the feeling of
abandonment. Eternity without God. After all when we are in our worst
situations we usually turn to Him but at that point there is no one to
turn to. Pain #2. Then we are tortured with pains of the flesh and
pains of the soul. 2 different punishments. Pain #3. Then there are
pains of extreme cold and extreme heat. Being turned on and off by the
second. Hot Cold hot cold.
All this info I got from old books that were written by councils and
people who were visionaries. There are people on earth who seem to have
special gifts of vision and they have professed what they saw.

God is about love but he is also a God who hates. After all he does
hate Sin. So we must be prepared at all costs for an angry God too.

Thats my 2 cents worth. Thanks for listening.

Take Care

I say "fuck Hell!" and "fuck the devil!

Hmmm...I don't know if I want to step into this with my possibly
controversial opinions, so I choose to remain 'ominously silent'.-=x

Hell explained:
I figured those of you with strong scientific/math minds would
appreciate the logic of this answer. I will prove to you that Hell does
not exisit by asking whether it is endothermic(absorbs heat) or
exothermic(gives off heat)
First, we need to know how the mass of Hell is changing in time. So we
need to know the rate at which souls are moving into Hell and the rate
at which they are leaving. I think that we can safely assume that once a
soul gets to Hell, it will not leave. Therefore, no souls are leaving.
As for how many souls are entering Hell, let's look at the
different religions that exist in the world today. Most of these
religions state that if you are not a member of their religion, you will
go to Hell.
Since there is more than one of these religions and since people do not
belong to more than one religion, we can project that all souls go to
Hell.
With birth and death rates as they are, we can expect the number of
souls in Hell to increase exponentially. Now, we look at the rate of
change of the volume in Hell because Boyle's Law states that in order
for the temperature and pressure in Hell to stay the same, the volume of
Hell has to expand proportionately as souls are added.
This gives two possibilities:
1. If Hell is expanding at a slower rate than the rate at which
souls enter Hell, then the temperature and pressure in Hell will
increase until all Hell breaks loose. 2. If Hell is expanding at a rate
faster than the increase of souls in Hell, then the temperature and
pressure will drop until Hell freezes over.
So which is it?
If we accept the postulate given to me by my ex two weeks ago that, " it
will be a cold day in Hell before I sleep with you again, and take into
account the fact that I slept with her last night, then number 2 must be
true, and thus I am sure that Hell is exothermic and has already frozen
over. The corollary of this theory is that since Hell has frozen over,
it follows that it is not accepting any more souls and is therefore,
extinct...leaving only Heaven thereby proving the existence of a divine
being which explains why, last night, my ex kept shouting "Oh my God."