Topic: Karl Rove runs from angry protesters
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Sat 01/24/09 10:25 PM
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Sat 01/24/09 10:56 PM
once again...Article 1 Section 8 of the Constitution...

The Congress shall have the power to declare war...NOT FUGGIN' BUSH...ROVE...POWELL...or ANYBOBY !!!

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Sat 01/24/09 11:42 PM
Edited by catwoman96 on Sat 01/24/09 11:42 PM
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Sun 01/25/09 04:48 AM

once again...Article 1 Section 8 of the Constitution...

The Congress shall have the power to declare war...NOT FUGGIN' BUSH...ROVE...POWELL...or ANYBOBY !!!


If you pay attention my friend you will notice that it is CONGRESS who subpoenaed Rove and the rest of the Bush Admin.
Bush wouldnt allow it.
It is the President's responsibility, and it is the law, to give Congress honest information to make such a decision.
Bush did not. He gave them a series of fabricated lies.
Therefore it is they, CONGRESS, who subpoenaed members of his Admin in an effort to get to the truth.
Its a shame that they were required to do this, and it is a sure sign that the Bush Admin had something to hide by refusing to appear before them.

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Sun 01/25/09 05:03 AM
Good Article!drinker
Dated AUG 2, 2007.
I enjoyed it very much and I hope you do as well.

By Massimo Calabresi


If cabinet members were perishable goods, Alberto Gonzales would have passed his "sell by" date sometime last spring. Since January, when he first faced sharp questioning over the firing of U.S. Attorneys, the Attorney General has earned disastrous reviews for his inconsistent testimony and poor judgment and for appearing to place loyalty to the White House above service to the public. By June it was hard to find a Republican willing to defend him. Now Gonzales' dissembling testimony about a controversial domestic-spying program has raised suspicions about what he is hiding and fueled new calls for him to go. Senate Democrats have called for a special prosecutor to investigate his activities as Attorney General, and a group of moderate House Democrats has called for the House to weigh impeachment proceedings against him.

Yet the embattled Gonzales' grip on his job seems unshakable. Bush tossed Donald Rumsfeld last fall despite support from conservatives for the then Defense Secretary, and the President chucked Joint Chiefs Chairman Peter Pace at the first sign of Congressional resistance to his renomination. So why the extraordinary support for Gonzales in the face of a protracted meltdown at the Department of Justice (DOJ)? Here are four reasons why Bush can't afford to let Gonzales go:

1. Gonzales is all that stands between the White House and special prosecutors. As dicey as things are for Bush right now, his advisers know that they could get much worse. In private, Democrats say that if Gonzales did step down, his replacement would be required to agree to an independent investigation of Gonzales' tenure in order to be confirmed by the Senate.

Without Gonzales at the helm, the Justice Department would be more likely to approve requests for investigations into White House activities on everything from misuse of prewar Iraq intelligence to allegations of political interference in tobacco litigation. And the DOJ could be less likely to block contempt charges against former White House aides who have refused to testify before Congress. "Bush needs someone at Justice who's going to watch the White House's back," says a Senate Democratic Judiciary Committee staffer. If Gonzales steps down, Bush would lose his most reliable shield.

2. A post-Gonzales DOJ would be in the hands of a nonpartisan, tough prosecutor, not a political hand. Newly appointed Deputy Attorney General Craig Morford is in line to take over until a new Attorney General could be confirmed. Morford, a 20-year veteran of the department, was brought in to investigate the botched trial of the first major federal antiterrorism case after 9/11. He is in the mold of James Comey, the former Deputy Attorney General who stood up to the White House over its domestic-eavesdropping program. Even New York Senator Charles Schumer, one of Gonzales' harshest critics, called Morford's appointment a positive step. Over the past six months, more than half a dozen top political appointees have left the department amid scandal. The unprecedented coziness that once existed between the Justice Department and the White House now remains solely in the person of Gonzales.

3. If Gonzales goes, the White House fears that other losses will follow. Top Bush advisers argue that Democrats are after scalps and would not stop at Gonzales. Congressional judiciary committees have already subpoenaed Harriet Miers and Karl Rove in the firings of U.S. Attorneys last year. Republicans are loath to hand Democrats some high-profile casualties to use in the 2008 campaign. Stonewalling, they believe, is their best way to avoid another election focused on corruption issues.

4. Nobody at the White House wants the legal bills and headaches that come with being a target of investigations. In backing Gonzales, Bush is influenced by advisers whose future depends on the survival of their political bodyguard. Gonzales remains the last line of defense protecting Bush, Rove and other top White House officials from the personal consequences of litigation. A high-profile probe would hobble the White House politically, and could mean sky-high legal bills and turmoil for Bush's closest aides.

Keeping Gonzales isn't cost-free. But for now, Bush seems to have decided that the importance of running out the clock on investigations by keeping his loyal Attorney General in place is worth any amount of criticism.

http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1649013,00.html

Let us not forget!!


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Sun 01/25/09 06:00 AM
Students Lie in Front of Car, Delay Rove After Speech


By Martin Weil and Peter Baker
Washington Post Staff Writers
Wednesday, April 4, 2007; Page B04

Heckling protesters briefly delayed the car carrying top White House aide Karl Rove last night as he left the American University campus, where he had just given a speech. No arrests or injuries were reported after Rove's invitation-only talk.

About 20 students lay in front of the car as it prepared to leave, a witness said.


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Josh Goodman, an AU junior, said other students kicked the car "and tried to stop it as best as they could."

He said the car, with Rove in the back seat, left after those in front of it "were all pulled away."

Goodman estimated that the incident lasted for "close to five full minutes," but Maralee Csellar, AU's acting head of public relations, said the delay amounted to a minute or two. She said there were 12 to 15 protesters.

A White House spokeswoman said last night that Rove "is pleased to accept invitations to speak to groups, including students."

"Rarely is there a protest that is not peaceful," spokeswoman Emily Lawrimore said. "Karl was never in any danger. He appreciated the opportunity and the invitation."

Kim Bruce, a spokeswoman for the Secret Service, said that after Rove spoke, "several individuals who had gathered outside the speech area threw unknown objects at the vehicle."

In addition, she said, "some individuals ran in front of the vehicle" but "did not impede" Rove's departure.

Goodman said students went to the Ward Circle building where Rove spoke to make a "citizen's arrest" of the presidential adviser. He said the students claimed they had compiled evidence indicating that Rove had violated what they say is a presidential records act stipulating that all presidential e-mail be recorded on White House servers.



http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/04/03/AR2007040302257.html


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Sun 01/25/09 06:06 AM
Edited by Quikstepper on Sun 01/25/09 06:08 AM
It just goes to show how classless the left in this country is.

I watched the prolife rally the other day... There were more people there than at the inaugeration parade. No wonder OBAMA kept getting back in the car. What they didn't tell you was that the prolifers were probly letting their numbers be known.

Ever wonder why nothing is said about those who protest the lib sickos? Oh! That's right...they take away all the protester signs they don't want to see to make it look like everyone agrees with them. DUH! Why not? sick willie did it. I saw that first hand. laugh

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Sun 01/25/09 06:14 AM
Edited by madisonman on Sun 01/25/09 06:22 AM

It just goes to show how classless the left in this country is.

I watched the prolife rally the other day... There were more people there than at the inaugeration parade. No wonder OBAMA kept getting back in the car. What they didn't tell you was that the prolifers were probly letting their numbers be known.

Ever wonder why nothing is said about those who protest the lib sickos? Oh! That's right...they take away all the protester signs they don't want to see to make it look like everyone agrees with them. DUH! Why not? sick willie did it. I saw that first hand. laugh
I read that 1.5 million attended the inaugeration parade and only tens of thousands the pro life rally. Can you please provide some data to back up your wild claim?

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Sun 01/25/09 06:29 AM
Edited by Quikstepper on Sun 01/25/09 06:30 AM


It just goes to show how classless the left in this country is.

I watched the prolife rally the other day... There were more people there than at the inaugeration parade. No wonder OBAMA kept getting back in the car. What they didn't tell you was that the prolifers were probly letting their numbers be known.

Ever wonder why nothing is said about those who protest the lib sickos? Oh! That's right...they take away all the protester signs they don't want to see to make it look like everyone agrees with them. DUH! Why not? sick willie did it. I saw that first hand. laugh
I read that 1.5 million attended the inaugeration parade and only tens of thousands the pro life rally. Can you please provide some data to back up your wild claim?



Yes well it was on TBN...they had about 400,000 people there. The march went on for hours with no end in sight. You might be able to catch in on CSPAN or TBN. BTW, that rally is held EVERY year on January 21st...the anniversary of Roe v. Wade.

Nonetheless...DEMS don't allow protesters where they show up.

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Sun 01/25/09 06:33 AM


once again...Article 1 Section 8 of the Constitution...

The Congress shall have the power to declare war...NOT FUGGIN' BUSH...ROVE...POWELL...or ANYBOBY !!!


If you pay attention my friend you will notice that it is CONGRESS who subpoenaed Rove and the rest of the Bush Admin.
Bush wouldnt allow it.
It is the President's responsibility, and it is the law, to give Congress honest information to make such a decision.
Bush did not. He gave them a series of fabricated lies.
Therefore it is they, CONGRESS, who subpoenaed members of his Admin in an effort to get to the truth.
Its a shame that they were required to do this, and it is a sure sign that the Bush Admin had something to hide by refusing to appear before them.



all I'm saying is...we couldn't go into Iraq...without the approval of Congress...so...whenever I see someone lay this war...solely on President Bush...I thinks it's important...that they read the Constitution ...

It is the President's responsibility, and it is the law, to give Congress honest information to make such a decision....if I remember correctly...much of the misimformation...was British intelligence...I can still see...Colin Powell...persuading the UN...with information...that obviously...the Congress...even thought was valid...honest...accurate...and....true...

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Sun 01/25/09 06:36 AM



It just goes to show how classless the left in this country is.

I watched the prolife rally the other day... There were more people there than at the inaugeration parade. No wonder OBAMA kept getting back in the car. What they didn't tell you was that the prolifers were probly letting their numbers be known.

Ever wonder why nothing is said about those who protest the lib sickos? Oh! That's right...they take away all the protester signs they don't want to see to make it look like everyone agrees with them. DUH! Why not? sick willie did it. I saw that first hand. laugh
I read that 1.5 million attended the inaugeration parade and only tens of thousands the pro life rally. Can you please provide some data to back up your wild claim?



Yes well it was on TBN...they had about 400,000 people there. The march went on for hours with no end in sight. You might be able to catch in on CSPAN or TBN. BTW, that rally is held EVERY year on January 21st...the anniversary of Roe v. Wade.

Nonetheless...DEMS don't allow protesters where they show up.
again I read tens of thousands and even hundreds of thousands are less than 1.5 million. Please try to have accurate information it makes intelligent conversation difficult.

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Sun 01/25/09 06:37 AM
Edited by Quikstepper on Sun 01/25/09 06:38 AM
all I'm saying is...we couldn't go into Iraq...without the approval of Congress...so...whenever I see someone lay this war...solely on President Bush...I thinks it's important...that they read the Constitution ...

It is the President's responsibility, and it is the law, to give Congress honest information to make such a decision....if I remember correctly...much of the misimformation...was British intelligence...I can still see...Colin Powell...persuading the UN...with information...that obviously...the Congress...even thought was valid...honest...accurate...and....true...



Yes well all they want to do is blame Bush in spite of the fact that everyone gave the ok from the info they recieved.


I wonder where the buck is going to stop with OBAMA's administration?

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Sun 01/25/09 06:39 AM




It just goes to show how classless the left in this country is.

I watched the prolife rally the other day... There were more people there than at the inaugeration parade. No wonder OBAMA kept getting back in the car. What they didn't tell you was that the prolifers were probly letting their numbers be known.

Ever wonder why nothing is said about those who protest the lib sickos? Oh! That's right...they take away all the protester signs they don't want to see to make it look like everyone agrees with them. DUH! Why not? sick willie did it. I saw that first hand. laugh
I read that 1.5 million attended the inaugeration parade and only tens of thousands the pro life rally. Can you please provide some data to back up your wild claim?



Yes well it was on TBN...they had about 400,000 people there. The march went on for hours with no end in sight. You might be able to catch in on CSPAN or TBN. BTW, that rally is held EVERY year on January 21st...the anniversary of Roe v. Wade.

Nonetheless...DEMS don't allow protesters where they show up.
again I read tens of thousands and even hundreds of thousands are less than 1.5 million. Please try to have accurate information it makes intelligent conversation difficult.



LOL... calling the kettle black now? hahahaha

Watch it for yourself. hehehehe

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Sun 01/25/09 06:41 AM
:tongue: Why haven't the right wing republicans been raptured?:tongue:

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Sun 01/25/09 06:42 AM





It just goes to show how classless the left in this country is.

I watched the prolife rally the other day... There were more people there than at the inaugeration parade. No wonder OBAMA kept getting back in the car. What they didn't tell you was that the prolifers were probly letting their numbers be known.

Ever wonder why nothing is said about those who protest the lib sickos? Oh! That's right...they take away all the protester signs they don't want to see to make it look like everyone agrees with them. DUH! Why not? sick willie did it. I saw that first hand. laugh
I read that 1.5 million attended the inaugeration parade and only tens of thousands the pro life rally. Can you please provide some data to back up your wild claim?



Yes well it was on TBN...they had about 400,000 people there. The march went on for hours with no end in sight. You might be able to catch in on CSPAN or TBN. BTW, that rally is held EVERY year on January 21st...the anniversary of Roe v. Wade.

Nonetheless...DEMS don't allow protesters where they show up.
again I read tens of thousands and even hundreds of thousands are less than 1.5 million. Please try to have accurate information it makes intelligent conversation difficult.



LOL... calling the kettle black now? hahahaha

Watch it for yourself. hehehehe
No its verry simple. You had your facts wrong either deliberatly or you were misinformed. It makes a reasoneable conversation difficult. Like most people I prefer facts and reality over wild claims. How can one have a reasonable debate with a person who makes up facts and calls it truth? I am out have a great day. Oh and if you can prove more people attended the anti abortion thing than the inaguration parade I will admit I am wrong.

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Sun 01/25/09 05:07 PM
Edited by Seamonster on Sun 01/25/09 05:09 PM



It just goes to show how classless the left in this country is.

I watched the prolife rally the other day... There were more people there than at the inaugeration parade. No wonder OBAMA kept getting back in the car. What they didn't tell you was that the prolifers were probly letting their numbers be known.

Ever wonder why nothing is said about those who protest the lib sickos? Oh! That's right...they take away all the protester signs they don't want to see to make it look like everyone agrees with them. DUH! Why not? sick willie did it. I saw that first hand. laugh
I read that 1.5 million attended the inaugeration parade and only tens of thousands the pro life rally. Can you please provide some data to back up your wild claim?



Yes well it was on TBN...they had about 400,000 people there. The march went on for hours with no end in sight. You might be able to catch in on CSPAN or TBN. BTW, that rally is held EVERY year on January 21st...the anniversary of Roe v. Wade.

Nonetheless...DEMS don't allow protesters where they show up.


TBN?laugh laugh laugh rofl rofl
Yeah, great place for facts.
rofl rofl rofl



and btw, yay for abortion!!!drinker

Fanta46's photo
Sun 01/25/09 05:45 PM
Edited by Fanta46 on Sun 01/25/09 05:50 PM


It is the President's responsibility, and it is the law, to give Congress honest information to make such a decision....if I remember correctly...much of the misimformation...was British intelligence...I can still see...Colin Powell...persuading the UN...with information...that obviously...the Congress...even thought was valid...honest...accurate...and....true...



Well, at least thats a start. At least you agree that we went into Iraq on false pretenses.

When I get more time I'll show you proof that the false information came from Cheney's Office.

Right now I have homework..

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Sun 01/25/09 06:03 PM

:tongue: Why haven't the right wing republicans been raptured?:tongue:



That's a very good question, maybe the Trinity Broadcasting Network could pay to speed things up.. drinker