Topic: Guantanamo Bay
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Wed 01/21/09 12:55 PM
Edited by catwoman96 on Wed 01/21/09 12:55 PM
The new Obama administration circulated a draft executive order Wednesday that calls for closing the controversial detention center at Guantanamo Bay within a year and halting any war crimes trials in the meantime.

Closing the facility in Cuba "would further the national security and foreign policy interests of the United States and the interests of justice," read the draft prepared for the new president's signature.

While some of the detainees currently held at Guantanamo would be released, others would be transferred elsewhere and later put on trial under terms to be determined.

It was not known when Obama intended to issue the order. He has been a longtime critic of the Bush administration's decision to maintain the detention facility, which was opened after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks.

The Associated Press obtained a copy of the draft.

There are an estimated 245 detainees currently held at Guantanamo, out of some 800 who were sent there during the Bush administration.

The order circulated as the judge in one war crimes case agreed to Obama's request to suspend proceedings pending a 120-day review.

Army Col. Stephen Henley issued the ruling Wednesday after a brief hearing at the U.S. base in Cuba.

The defendants opposed the delay. All have said they want to plead guilty to charges that carry a potential death sentence.

It was not immediately clear whether the request to halt proceedings was designed as a precursor to a more extensive executive order.

The draft order calls for a systematic review of the cases of each of the detainees, to determine which among them can be released and which cannot.

"It is in the interests of the United States to review whether and how such individuals can and should be prosecuted," it says.

The facility at Guantanamo Bay has long been criticized by critics of the former Bush administration at home, as well as by other governments overseas, as a black eye for the United States. The administration established it early in the war on terror, contending that those held there were not entitled to the customary rights that prisoners in he United States enjoy, or to the protections of the Geneva Conventions that cover war prisoners.

The draft order notes that some of those held at the site have been there for more than six years, and most for at least four years.

The draft states that "the detention facilities at Guantanamo for individuals covered by this order shall be closed as soon as practicable, and no later than one year from the date of this order."

At the Pentagon, military leaders were preparing for the order that spokesman Bryan Whitman said would begin a "comprehensive review of policies and procedures related to detainee activities."

"The president has clearly made his intentions well known," Whitman said. "And he has taken the first steps with respect to his direction to order a pause to military commission proceedings."


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090121/ap_on_go_pr_wh/obama_guantanamo_6


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Wed 01/21/09 01:00 PM
wouldn't this action be the direct opposite ?...of this...

We will not apologize for our way of life, nor will we waver in its defense, and for those who seek to advance their aims by inducing terror and slaughtering innocents, we say to you now that our spirit is stronger and cannot be broken; you cannot outlast us, and we will defeat you.

words mean things...and...these words were just idle threats...


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Wed 01/21/09 01:12 PM
Edited by catwoman96 on Wed 01/21/09 01:12 PM
I just dont understand. Does this mean he will set the suspected terrorists free or move them to a prison in the US so they can receive a nice fair trial?

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Wed 01/21/09 01:15 PM
most of the ones he wants to set free are ones who have been tried and found not guilty but their countries are not giving the ok to let them back in

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Wed 01/21/09 01:22 PM
Edited by catwoman96 on Wed 01/21/09 01:25 PM
well I sure as heck dont want them to come to the US.

and what about the ones that have not been found innocent? where would they go??


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Wed 01/21/09 01:22 PM
this is why they are still detained

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Wed 01/21/09 01:28 PM

this is why they are still detained


well if their own countries dont want them back.....then what are they supposed to do??

I think their countries shouldnt have a choice.
if their innocence has been proven.

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Wed 01/21/09 01:29 PM
i believe it's one of the dilemmas and reasons why guan. bay isn't closed down as of yet.

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Wed 01/21/09 01:36 PM
WASHINGTON � President-elect Obama's advisers are crafting plans to close the Guantanamo Bay prison and prosecute terrorism suspects in the U.S., a plan the Bush administration said Monday was easier said than done. Under the plan being crafted inside Obama's camp, some detainees would be released and others would be charged in U.S. courts, where they would receive constitutional rights and open trials.

But, underscoring the difficult decisions Obama must make to fulfill his pledge of shutting down Guantanamo, the plan could require the creation of a new legal system to handle the classified information inherent in some of the most sensitive cases.

Many of the about 250 Guantanamo detainees are cleared for release, but the Bush administration has not able been to find a country willing to take them.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/11/10/obama-plans-guantanamo-cl_n_142593.html

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Wed 01/21/09 01:36 PM
Jan 11 2009
President O. stated this to Stephanopoulos .


It is more difficult than I think a lot of people realize," the president-elect explained. "Part of the challenge that you have is that you have a bunch of folks that have been detained, many of whom may be very dangerous who have not been put on trial or have not gone through some adjudication. And some of the evidence against them may be tainted even though it's true. And so how to balance creating a process that adheres to rule of law, habeas corpus, basic principles of Anglo-American legal system, by doing it in a way that doesn't result in releasing people who are intent on blowing us up."



uhhh...Duh!!!!

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Wed 01/21/09 01:57 PM
It's about time they shut it down. Those people have been held without evidence long enough. I don't know about charges from other countries, but only one gitmo detainee has been convicted of a criminal offense by the US this whole time. They should be paid reparations and they should be given sanctuary.

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Wed 01/21/09 02:00 PM
but many others still need to be tried

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Wed 01/21/09 02:04 PM
It seems they have had a great deal of time to do that.

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Wed 01/21/09 04:20 PM
it should be shut down ,the innocent set free and the dangerous interred on Alcatraz.Trials should be held first of course.No one escapes from the Rock!!