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Topic: Burn Victims in Gaza
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Sun 01/11/09 05:03 PM
Human Rights group: Israel uses incendiary bombs in Gaza.


By JASON KEYSER, Associated Press Writer Jason Keyser, Associated Press Writer – 1 hr 3 mins ago

JERUSALEM – Human Rights Watch said Sunday that Israel's military has fired artillery shells with the incendiary agent white phosphorus into Gaza and a doctor there said the chemical was suspected in the case of 10 burn victims who had skin peeling off their faces and bodies.

Researchers in Israel from the rights group witnessed hours of artillery bombardments that sent trails of burning smoke indicating white phosphorus over the Jebaliya refugee camp in northern Gaza. But they could not confirm injuries on the ground because they have been barred from entering the territory.

The chief doctor at Nasser Hospital in southern Gaza said he treated several victims there with serious burns that might have been caused by phosphorus. He said, however, that he did not have the resources or expertise to say with certainty what caused the injuries.

The substance can cause serious burns if it touches the skin and can spark fires on the ground, the rights group said in a written statement calling on Israel not to use it in crowded areas of Gaza.

Military spokeswoman Maj. Avital Leibovich refused to comment directly on whether Israel was using phosphorus, but said the army was "using its munitions in accordance with international law."

Israel used white phosphorus in its 34-day war with Hezbollah in Lebanon in 2006. The U.S. military in Iraq used the incendiary during a November 2004 operation against insurgents in the city of Fallujah.

An AP photographer and a TV crew based in Gaza visited Nasser Hospital in Khan Younis on Sunday and recorded images of several burn patients.

One of them, Haitham Tahseen, recalled sitting outside his home with his family in the morning when something exploded above them.

"Suddenly, I saw bombs coming with white smoke," said the man, whose burned face was covered with medical cream. "It looked very red and it had white smoke. That's the first time I've seen such a thing."

His cousin, in another hospital bed, was more severely burned, with patches of skin peeling off his face and body, and had to be wrapped with thick white bandages.

The hospital's chief doctor, Youssef Abu Rish, said the burns were not from contact with fire, but he couldn't say what sort of substance caused them. He said information he collected on the Internet indicated it could have been white phosphorus.

White phosphorus is not considered a chemical weapon, and militaries are permitted under laws of warfare to use it in artillery shells, bombs and rockets to create smoke screens to hide troop movements as well as bright bursts in the air to illuminate battlefields at night.

Israel is not party to a convention regulating its use. Under customary laws of war, however, Israel would be expected to take all feasible precautions to minimize the impact of white phosphorus on civilians, Human Rights Watch said.

"What we're saying is the use of white phosphorus in densely populated areas like a refugee camp is showing that the Israelis are not taking all feasible precautions," said Marc Garlasco, a senior military analyst for the rights group. "It's just an unnecessary risk to the civilian population, not only in the potential for wounds but also for burning homes and infrastructure."

Garlasco was among researchers on a ridge about a mile (1.5 kilometers) from the Gaza border who observed the shelling from a 155mm artillery unit on Friday and Saturday.

Some of the burning trails of smoke caused fires on the ground that appeared to go out after a few minutes, said Garlasco, who formerly worked at the Pentagon where he was in charge of recommending high-value targets for airstrikes during the 2003 invasion of Iraq.

Each 155mm shell contains 116 of what Garlasco described as wafers doused in phosphorus that can be spread over an area as large as a sports field, depending on the height at which it detonates. The phosphorus ignites when it comes in contact with oxygen.

Human Rights Watch has not been able to confirm whether there have been any civilian casualties from phosphorus. The group has a consultant working for it inside Gaza but he has been unable to move around due to the danger. Foreign journalists have also been barred from entering Gaza.

Garlasco said photos published Thursday in British newspaper The Times showed Israeli units handling American-manufactured white phosphorus shells with fuses on them.

captainkirk56's photo
Sun 01/11/09 05:05 PM
war is war....thats the problem....no humane way to fight a war...u play to win...

Winx's photo
Sun 01/11/09 05:07 PM

war is war....thats the problem....no humane way to fight a war...u play to win...


You're right. Heavy sigh. I hate to think of that happening to the civilians/children though.

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Sun 01/11/09 05:12 PM
hey....vietnam....used chemicals
first world war....chemicals
nukes....how many do they burn

nothing has changed except the media

blow it up...make the good guys look bad..

jihads or any terrorist group...kills innocent people, but u shoot one of them...(unless he shoots first) and ur a murderer ??????????????



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Sun 01/11/09 05:14 PM
and as for demonstrations against it....send them all over there....to the front lines...they should be happy they have freedoms...without protesting every single atrosity that happens in this world

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Sun 01/11/09 05:20 PM

and as for demonstrations against it....send them all over there....to the front lines...they should be happy they have freedoms...without protesting every single atrosity that happens in this world

noway noway noway noway noway noway noway noway noway noway noway noway noway noway noway noway noway noway noway noway noway noway noway

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Sun 01/11/09 05:22 PM

and as for demonstrations against it....send them all over there....to the front lines...they should be happy they have freedoms...without protesting every single atrosity that happens in this world



If you have that much hate on you for one race, keep it for you self

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Sun 01/11/09 05:23 PM

Human Rights group: Israel uses incendiary bombs in Gaza.


By JASON KEYSER, Associated Press Writer Jason Keyser, Associated Press Writer – 1 hr 3 mins ago

JERUSALEM – Human Rights Watch said Sunday that Israel's military has fired artillery shells with the incendiary agent white phosphorus into Gaza and a doctor there said the chemical was suspected in the case of 10 burn victims who had skin peeling off their faces and bodies.

Researchers in Israel from the rights group witnessed hours of artillery bombardments that sent trails of burning smoke indicating white phosphorus over the Jebaliya refugee camp in northern Gaza. But they could not confirm injuries on the ground because they have been barred from entering the territory.

The chief doctor at Nasser Hospital in southern Gaza said he treated several victims there with serious burns that might have been caused by phosphorus. He said, however, that he did not have the resources or expertise to say with certainty what caused the injuries.

The substance can cause serious burns if it touches the skin and can spark fires on the ground, the rights group said in a written statement calling on Israel not to use it in crowded areas of Gaza.

Military spokeswoman Maj. Avital Leibovich refused to comment directly on whether Israel was using phosphorus, but said the army was "using its munitions in accordance with international law."

Israel used white phosphorus in its 34-day war with Hezbollah in Lebanon in 2006. The U.S. military in Iraq used the incendiary during a November 2004 operation against insurgents in the city of Fallujah.

An AP photographer and a TV crew based in Gaza visited Nasser Hospital in Khan Younis on Sunday and recorded images of several burn patients.

One of them, Haitham Tahseen, recalled sitting outside his home with his family in the morning when something exploded above them.

"Suddenly, I saw bombs coming with white smoke," said the man, whose burned face was covered with medical cream. "It looked very red and it had white smoke. That's the first time I've seen such a thing."

His cousin, in another hospital bed, was more severely burned, with patches of skin peeling off his face and body, and had to be wrapped with thick white bandages.

The hospital's chief doctor, Youssef Abu Rish, said the burns were not from contact with fire, but he couldn't say what sort of substance caused them. He said information he collected on the Internet indicated it could have been white phosphorus.

White phosphorus is not considered a chemical weapon, and militaries are permitted under laws of warfare to use it in artillery shells, bombs and rockets to create smoke screens to hide troop movements as well as bright bursts in the air to illuminate battlefields at night.

Israel is not party to a convention regulating its use. Under customary laws of war, however, Israel would be expected to take all feasible precautions to minimize the impact of white phosphorus on civilians, Human Rights Watch said.

"What we're saying is the use of white phosphorus in densely populated areas like a refugee camp is showing that the Israelis are not taking all feasible precautions," said Marc Garlasco, a senior military analyst for the rights group. "It's just an unnecessary risk to the civilian population, not only in the potential for wounds but also for burning homes and infrastructure."

Garlasco was among researchers on a ridge about a mile (1.5 kilometers) from the Gaza border who observed the shelling from a 155mm artillery unit on Friday and Saturday.

Some of the burning trails of smoke caused fires on the ground that appeared to go out after a few minutes, said Garlasco, who formerly worked at the Pentagon where he was in charge of recommending high-value targets for airstrikes during the 2003 invasion of Iraq.

Each 155mm shell contains 116 of what Garlasco described as wafers doused in phosphorus that can be spread over an area as large as a sports field, depending on the height at which it detonates. The phosphorus ignites when it comes in contact with oxygen.

Human Rights Watch has not been able to confirm whether there have been any civilian casualties from phosphorus. The group has a consultant working for it inside Gaza but he has been unable to move around due to the danger. Foreign journalists have also been barred from entering Gaza.

Garlasco said photos published Thursday in British newspaper The Times showed Israeli units handling American-manufactured white phosphorus shells with fuses on them.

:cry: Thats terrible:cry:

MirrorMirror's photo
Sun 01/11/09 05:23 PM

and as for demonstrations against it....send them all over there....to the front lines...they should be happy they have freedoms...without protesting every single atrosity that happens in this world



:smile: Since when are peoples homes the "front line"?:smile:

no photo
Sun 01/11/09 05:25 PM

and as for demonstrations against it....send them all over there....to the front lines...they should be happy they have freedoms...without protesting every single atrosity that happens in this world



I wish you would have some family and friends there to see how that feels like .I can't believe you said something so stupid like that

Winx's photo
Sun 01/11/09 05:26 PM

and as for demonstrations against it....send them all over there....to the front lines...they should be happy they have freedoms...without protesting every single atrosity that happens in this world



Why do that? Why hate people for having an opinion different from yours? We are allowed to have different opinions in the United States.

browns8127's photo
Sun 01/11/09 05:27 PM
if thats true was is everyone on captain kirk's back?

Winx's photo
Sun 01/11/09 05:29 PM

if thats true was is everyone on captain kirk's back?


Because he said to send people that protest the war to the front lines.



browns8127's photo
Sun 01/11/09 05:32 PM
protester saying that the jews should go back in the ovens? you mean those protestors? the ones in miami?

Fanta46's photo
Sun 01/11/09 05:54 PM
They say,
Ignorance is bliss!!

Winx's photo
Sun 01/11/09 06:03 PM
Edited by Winx on Sun 01/11/09 06:04 PM

protester saying that the jews should go back in the ovens? you mean those protestors? the ones in miami?


I haven't heard about that. Who said that?

I don't know which ones he is talking about.

sexysweeti's photo
Sun 01/11/09 06:43 PM
Why do that? Why hate people for having an opinion different from yours? We are allowed to have different opinions in the United States.


She gave her opinion that his opinion is stupid and I agree. This is not even a war. This is an act of one country with bombs and a strong military killing innocent people and burning babies and other civilians. The other country has a few small missles and rocks to defend itself. It is a hostile takeover. It is terrorism. It needs to be stopped. If he was a Palestenian, he would then know what suffering is.
Especially if he had no means of defending himself and was being bombed, burned and his children killed and mothers killed because the great USA supplied Israel with big bombs and military equipment and the funds to grow and build a strong army and have given Palestine nothing to defend itself, all because of the Jewish influence in Washington. Yes, people are angry. I am very angry.

Fanta46's photo
Sun 01/11/09 06:45 PM
I am very angry!

sexysweeti's photo
Sun 01/11/09 06:55 PM

During the period between 1967 and 2000, Iraq was the subject of 69 Security Council resolutions. By comparison, Israel, our closest "ally" in the Middle East, has been the subject of 138 resolutions. Not surprisingly, most of those resolutions call upon Israel to comply with basic principles of international law embodied by the UN Charter. Many of them condemn actions taken by Israel and call upon Israel on more than one occasion to comply with previous resolutions that Israel ignored and continues to ignore to this day.

On March 22, 1979, the Security Council adopted Resolution No. 446. Israel’s violation of Resolution 446 (sections quoted below) represents the most flagrant violation of Israel, not only of the UN but also the stated policy of our government under successive administrations:

(The Council) Determines that the policy and practices of Israel in establishing settlements in the Palestinian and Arab territories occupied since 1967 have no legal validity and constitute a serious obstruction to achieving a comprehensive and lasting peace in the Middle East; Calls once more upon Israel, as the occupying power, to abide scrupulously by the 1949 Fourth Geneva Convention, to rescind it’s previous measures and to desist from taking any action which would result in changing the legal status and geographical nature and materially affecting the demographic composition of the Arab territories occupied since 1967, including Jerusalem, and in particular, not to transfer parts of its own civilian population into the occupied Arab territories.

http://www.mediamonitors.net/michaelsladah&suleimaniajlouni1.html


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Sun 01/11/09 07:00 PM


During the period between 1967 and 2000, Iraq was the subject of 69 Security Council resolutions. By comparison, Israel, our closest "ally" in the Middle East, has been the subject of 138 resolutions. Not surprisingly, most of those resolutions call upon Israel to comply with basic principles of international law embodied by the UN Charter. Many of them condemn actions taken by Israel and call upon Israel on more than one occasion to comply with previous resolutions that Israel ignored and continues to ignore to this day.

On March 22, 1979, the Security Council adopted Resolution No. 446. Israel’s violation of Resolution 446 (sections quoted below) represents the most flagrant violation of Israel, not only of the UN but also the stated policy of our government under successive administrations:

(The Council) Determines that the policy and practices of Israel in establishing settlements in the Palestinian and Arab territories occupied since 1967 have no legal validity and constitute a serious obstruction to achieving a comprehensive and lasting peace in the Middle East; Calls once more upon Israel, as the occupying power, to abide scrupulously by the 1949 Fourth Geneva Convention, to rescind it’s previous measures and to desist from taking any action which would result in changing the legal status and geographical nature and materially affecting the demographic composition of the Arab territories occupied since 1967, including Jerusalem, and in particular, not to transfer parts of its own civilian population into the occupied Arab territories.

http://www.mediamonitors.net/michaelsladah&suleimaniajlouni1.html




The UN has no bite without the US, and the US Gov is doing more to appease the Israeli Gov than its own people!

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