Topic: A second front?
Fanta46's photo
Thu 01/08/09 08:45 AM
Rockets strike Israel from Lebanon!

Anybody hear about this?
Do you think there will be a second front and do you think Israel can handle it without US involvement?

Lynann's photo
Thu 01/08/09 09:07 AM
From what I understand Israel was struck by rockets that they said came from Lebanon. They responded by firing back.

Officials from Lebanon are saying basically they want no part of this. Will this widen the conflict? We shall see.

BEIRUT, Lebanon (CNN) -- Lebanon's prime minister condemned the firing of rockets into northern Israel after an attack wounded two Israelis on Thursday. He said his government is trying to determine who was responsible.
U.N. soldiers on Thursday inspect the site thought to be where rockets were fired from Lebanon into Israel.

U.N. soldiers on Thursday inspect the site in Lebanon thought to be the source of rockets fired into Israel.

Israel's military warned Israeli civilians to stick close to shelters after police said at least four rockets hit near the city of Nahariya, about 6 miles (10 kilometers) south of the Lebanese border. The Israeli military said it returned fire across the border with mortars.

Schools and kindergartens were closed in Nahariya and the nearby town of Shlomi, the Israel Defense Forces reported.

"What happened in the south [of Lebanon] is a violation of Resolution 1701 and is rejected by Lebanon," Lebanese Prime Minister Fouad Siniora said, referring to the U.N. resolution that ended the 2006 conflict between Israel and Lebanon's Hezbollah militia.

In a statement issued by his office, Siniora said he has asked Lebanese authorities to investigate the attack alongside troops from the U.N. peacekeeping force deployed along the border. He also condemned the Israeli retaliatory strikes, which the Lebanese military said inflicted no casualties.

There was no immediate claim of responsibility for the attacks, which came as Israeli airstrikes on Gaza, to the south, entered a 13th day.

The Israeli campaign in Gaza is aimed at halting rocket fire from the Hamas-ruled Palestinian territory. Israel fought a similar battle against the Lebanese Shiite Muslim militia Hezbollah in 2006, during which Hezbollah rained rockets on cities in Israeli's north for a month before a cease-fire was reached.

But Hezbollah has kept a tight rein on its forces in southern Lebanon since the cease-fire, and a number of Palestinian factions operate in southern Lebanon as well.

Andrea Tenenti, a spokesman for UNIFIL, the U.N. peacekeeping mission in Lebanon, said the rockets appear to have been fired from a point about 4.5 miles east of Naqoura, where the peacekeepers are headquartered.
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"We've been intensifying our patrols on the ground in order to prevent any further incident," Tenenti said.

He said UNIFIL's commander, Maj. Gen. Claudio Graziano, is in "constant and close contact" with both sides "and has urged maximum restraint in order to prevent any escalation of the situation."

Fanta46's photo
Thu 01/08/09 09:25 AM
Edited by Fanta46 on Thu 01/08/09 09:26 AM
Do you think this whole mess was created by the out going Bush Administration looking to draw Iran and Syria involvement into it as a reason to invade one or the other before they leave office?

warmachine's photo
Fri 01/09/09 07:08 AM

Do you think this whole mess was created by the out going Bush Administration looking to draw Iran and Syria involvement into it as a reason to invade one or the other before they leave office?


Globalists have been pushing for this for awhile. Bolton got his NeoCon a$$ on T.V. and flat said we should use the Israeli/Palestinian issue as an opportunity to strike Iran.


So Israel could be facing a 2 front and Globalists are pushing for Americans to occupy and fight on 3... then again, we've been making strikes inside of Pakistan, so are we not already fighting on 3 fronts?

Stupid.

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Fri 01/09/09 08:20 AM


Do you think this whole mess was created by the out going Bush Administration looking to draw Iran and Syria involvement into it as a reason to invade one or the other before they leave office?


Globalists have been pushing for this for awhile. Bolton got his NeoCon a$$ on T.V. and flat said we should use the Israeli/Palestinian issue as an opportunity to strike Iran.


So Israel could be facing a 2 front and Globalists are pushing for Americans to occupy and fight on 3... then again, we've been making strikes inside of Pakistan, so are we not already fighting on 3 fronts?

Stupid.


10 more days baby!!

warmachine's photo
Fri 01/09/09 08:44 AM
I "hope" I'm wrong about where it appears Obama is going to take us. I'll be sure to "Change" my tune if he does a good job.

However, I'm not so certain that his idea of another stimulus package is going to do much more than devalue the dollar. In order to get that money sent out, they are going to have to get the Fed and Treasury to put those printing presses into high speed.


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Fri 01/09/09 08:52 AM

Do you think this whole mess was created by the out going Bush Administration looking to draw Iran and Syria involvement into it as a reason to invade one or the other before they leave office?



NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO

Drivinmenutz's photo
Fri 01/09/09 12:23 PM
Edited by Drivinmenutz on Fri 01/09/09 12:26 PM

I "hope" I'm wrong about where it appears Obama is going to take us. I'll be sure to "Change" my tune if he does a good job.

However, I'm not so certain that his idea of another stimulus package is going to do much more than devalue the dollar. In order to get that money sent out, they are going to have to get the Fed and Treasury to put those printing presses into high speed.




One upside to this is at least the people will be getting SOME of this printed money to make up for losing it. Kinda seems like an oxymoron but the first 8.5 trillion went to the richest people in the world... We kinda need something to offset this when the hyper-inflation hits us.

Part of me thinks the world market is in it's last stage right now anyway. The way things were run, it couldn't sustain stability without crashing.

no photo
Fri 01/09/09 04:58 PM
I would put nothing past Bush including manufacturing the banking crisis to put america in such bad shape that Obama can't fix it..

Make Obama's term so mired in crapola that folks will beg to get the neocons back in power in a few years.

Ok ok maybe it's a silly thought, but it did cross my mind a time or two, but hard to know after all the other things he has done...

Drivinmenutz's photo
Fri 01/09/09 06:03 PM
Edited by Drivinmenutz on Fri 01/09/09 06:10 PM

I would put nothing past Bush including manufacturing the banking crisis to put america in such bad shape that Obama can't fix it..

Make Obama's term so mired in crapola that folks will beg to get the neocons back in power in a few years.

Ok ok maybe it's a silly thought, but it did cross my mind a time or two, but hard to know after all the other things he has done...


If Bush did it all then we just saw the most powerful, smartest man that has ever been in office leave his position of power. One man could never do this all. All this mess takes longer than 8 years and cooperation from more than one man. Think about it.

I believe a person to be a fool if they believe Bush caused all our problems and Obama will attempt to fix them all. Even if this were true why did Obama vote with Bush most of the time? Why did he vote to reinstate the patriot act and vote yea on the bailout?

Remember NAFTA was passed by a democratic congress and signed in by Clinton right?

Besides;

"This [Federal Reserve Act] establishes the most gigantic trust on earth. When the President [Wilson} signs this bill, the invisible government of the monetary power will be legalized.... the worst legislative crime of the ages is perpetrated by this banking and currency bill." -- Charles A. Lindbergh, Sr. , 1913

"From now on, depressions will be scientifically created." -- Congressman Charles A. Lindbergh Sr. , 1913

"The Federal Reserve bank buys government bonds without one penny..."
-- Congressman Wright Patman, Congressional Record, Sept 30, 1941

"We have, in this country, one of the most corrupt institutions the world has ever known. I refer to the Federal Reserve Board. This evil institution has impoverished the people of the United States and has practically bankrupted our government. It has done this through the corrupt practices of the moneyed vultures who control it". -- Congressman Louis T. McFadden in 1932 (Rep. Pa)

"The Federal Reserve banks are one of the most corrupt institutions the world has ever seen. There is not a man within the sound of my voice who does not know that this nation is run by the International bankers -- Congressman Louis T. McFadden (Rep. Pa)

"Some people think the Federal Reserve Banks are the United States government's institutions. They are not government institutions. They are private credit monopolies which prey upon the people of the United States for the benefit of themselves and their foreign swindlers" -- Congressional Record 12595-12603 -- Louis T. McFadden, Chairman of the Committee on Banking and Currency (12 years) June 10, 1932

I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country. A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated. The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men. We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated governments in the civilized world. No longer a government by free opinion, no longer a government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men.
~ Woodrow Wilson


"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies."

Thomas Jefferson, (Attributed)
3rd president of US (1743 - 1826)

On June 4, 1963, a virtually unknown Presidential decree, Executive Order 11110, was signed with the authority to basically strip the Federal Reserve Bank of its power to loan money to the United States Federal Government at interest. A few months after doing this JFK was assassinated.

Who in their right minds would believe that Bush is the only corrupt politicial in Washington?

madisonman's photo
Fri 01/09/09 08:01 PM

Do you think this whole mess was created by the out going Bush Administration looking to draw Iran and Syria involvement into it as a reason to invade one or the other before they leave office?
hmmmm bush's final war crime.