We arent kin are we????

could be..

Well sorry to dis agree fanta, but I think even you are UNIQUE.
Maybe a UNIQUE azzhole, but UNIQUE none the less.

touche,, thats my dream,, to be unique....

Forever my friend, forever.

Jean

We are all UNIQUE individuals.
I mean just that.
If you think I am using that in a bad way, that is YOUR choice.
Referr to how I handle things, in past post.
I don't need your e-mails, pushing your questions.
I say what I chose & when I chose.

Then if we are all unique individuals, then why did you choose to single
me out by making a statement saying that I was unique and then, on top
of that, adding "BUT (caps for emphasis) we still love you, anyway," as
though, even though I'm "unique," that I'm still somehow "worthy" of
your love.

Well, I don't know HOW you meant that, so that's all I'm asking, is how
you assign that adjective to me, personally.

When you didn't answer me here (and you still won't) I thought I'd take
the opportunity to ask you in email, because I thought that perhaps
you'd prefer to address my question in private.

I don't need your acceptance, nor do I need your "love anyway," as I'm
quite proud of my autonomy and my ability to form logical and discerning
judgments and opinions.

Yes, I suppose I'm unique in some ways, which I consider a very, very
good thing. No way I want to be "like everyone else."

Army doc:

" kerry-

you made a comment about making it mandatory to own a gun,,,

believe it or not there is a town in georgia named Kenshaw that did just
that, 25 years ago, guess what, no murder there for the last 25yrs. it
is fact, you can google it if you'd like.

seems gun laws worked in that town- just not the kind of laws lib's were
looking for."

You don't mention how many murders per capita there were in that same
town before the law. Why is that? And if and when you do, are you
prepared to show those murders, if any, were the result of things like a
wife poisoning a spouse for the insurance money or any other number of
things a gun wouldn't have prevented?

Returning once again to the concept of guns being verboten at work by
employer edict (something you or your compatriots in the debate seem so
loathe to address in any relevant manner), in about the same time frame,
my place of employment had a No Guns Allowed on the Property, and we
have also never had anyone murdered, either on the property or off.
Using your logic, I could just as easily claim that absolute gun control
does work.

But we both know there is more to the argument, don't we?


-Kerry O.

kerry-

your "guns at the work place"

i do not believe that it should be imposed/ mandated for an employer to
allow guns on his/her property.
I do not believe everybody should be walking around toting guns on their
hips like it was the wild west.

I simply believe that if I want to own a gun in my home or in the car,
on my person in public, that I should be allowed to do that. There are
several types of people in the world, those who act (flight 93- crashed
carrying another plane to another building it never made it there-
crashed in a field)
and then there are those who dont act (32 dead virginia tech univ.)

I hope to all i find sacred that I will never be placed in a position to
have to defend my home car or family in public, but if i do or am , i
would rather go down fighting -gun in my hand, than standing there
saying to myself "what the hell was i thinking voting for gun control"

washington dc has the most stringent gun control laws in the entire US,
yet they also have among the highest violent crime rates in the US.

as far as te documentation on the town prior to the mandated gun owner
ship 25 years ago, im sorry i do not have that, doubt it would matter
much anyway. fenny check


doc

The name of the town in Georgia is Kennesaw

If I recall right, CRIME rate went in the toilet also.
Law enforcement LIKED that everyone in town CARRIED.
This was all started by a Illinois city baned all guns, even shot guns
for hunting. Crime level soared. What do these EXAMPLES say. I'll
keep mine & my carry permit.

Face it, a person intent on commiting a violent crime, be it robbery or
mass murder or whatever, is going to choose victims that are least
likely to resist. He, and to be politically correct it could be a she,
wants victims that will put up little if any resistance. The fact that
their intended victim(s) may be armed and able to resist has to be an
area of concern for them because they want to get their dirty deed done
as quickly as possible with the least amount of effort and with the
least risk of injury to themselves. In other words they want sheep and
our society wants not only to teach us how to be sheep, but to be good
sheep. I have seen programs on TV on urban survival that teach when
acosted by a mugger to have a wad of cash in your pocket that you can
throw one way and then run the other hoping the mugger will go after the
money. Have money ready and say "that's all I have". Carry a whistle
and if attacked blow it as loud as you can.

You don't have to wonder why the major cities have such high crime
rates, most of them have what the crooks want, an ample supply of
defenseless victims and the current mentality in Congress is not to do
something about crime, but to make us more perfect victims.

May I ask a question please, that someone may be able to answer for
me...

When did crime get so high that this decision, this requirement to be
armed with a gun, happen?

At what point historically did this saturation point of violence appear?

Jess, Its a constitutional right guarenteed to all Americans.
Personally I do not believe the crime rate is that great. It is our
culture to be an armed nation. When I served in Europe, the people there
thought Americans were barbaric. At first I denied it (to myself), but I
was there for 28 months and got to travel around quite extensively, and
met many Europeans. We are Barbaric, there is no dening it when compared
to them. We are quick to anger, fight (fist) at the drop of a hat, and
defend our right to carry weapons. Europeans do not understand this
culture and are real quick and in this regard quite correct to call us
barbaric. (Cowboy culture is how they describe Americans)

Thankyou for sharing your thoughts Fanta, for your honesty in looking at
your country in comparison to others.

i was in the Caymans, and we were discussing Gun control there. they
dont allow any Guns, and the speech was about how much safer everyone is
there because of it. I noticed that EVERY house and building has
burgular bars on the windows and doors..... and i asked the obvious
question well if its so safe, why the burgular bars??? no one had an
answer. its not safe there to be in the countryside alone because of the
crime by the way. if your house is out in the weeds it will get
vandalised all the time. I live between two rifle ranges, on 10 acres .
people ont tresspass where theyy hear automatic weapons fire. i dont
have a key for my front door or my vehicles. never used them once.
hmmmmm

Your welcome jess, but Im still not giving up my guns.....

$100.00,, not for $1 million dollars, will I.....


I like to shoot things,,,rats, trees, snakes are fun, trees(they dont
run), tin cans, and I like to get at least one deer a year, which I
eat.....

Fanta

I just want so shoot bad cans; Amercans, etc. (joke son joke)

You know the one.

I find a good shooting session, restful & calming.
Controled explosions are thrilling.
anybody got some C-4 wem could play with?

really

I made a land mine out of shot gun shells once about 2 yrs ago, just to
see if I could, and then set it off. It worked, but it was crude mostly
wood..... Shh,, shouldnt talk about it...

I had these neighbor hood dogs raiding my trash
So I to set up a boobie trap first by rigging two home made explosives
(shot gun shells), to trees and set up a trip wire.
Then I took it down (I was worried about the neighbors), then I got the
idea that I could make a landmine and stick it along a path the dogs
used through this field, once again I got worried about an unintended
target, and couldnt do it.
It worked though, and was a pressure mine of sorts. It needed an aid to
get the pressure correct but it functioned well.
So simple I didnt even have to take the shells apart...
and people worry about guns...........

Several yrs ago, bought an English pellet gun from a guy.
Looks like a high powered rifle, heavy as heck, w/big scope.
He was into bench rest TACK driving comp.
I have a muskrat problem, 1 in back of head flips them over in the
water. Feral cats in the park, knock them right out of the tree. Good
30-50 yard shots, love it. Park officer calls me for different problems
w/vermin. Loads of fun.

LOL
See Jess American Cowboy's................