http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2009/01/prez-elect-make.html


Prez-Elect Makes New Pitch, Promises on Job Creation

If you look at what FDR did, it follows suit...I expect huge government expansion over the next 4 years.

The federal government was larger under Bush than under Clinton as well...didn't hear a lot of righties on this board complaining about that.

People hear government jobs and think...oh another pencil pusher.

Not all gvernment employees are pencil pushers. I'd go so far as to say there isn't a single reader of these forums that hasn't been affected positively by the work of a government employee.

Border inspectors and security at shipping points of entry, the military (if you all want to keep fighting wars) can use more boots on the ground, food and product safety inspectors (think lead paint on kids toys and contaminated baby formula).

These and other jobs done by government employees.

A very comprehensive Observation!

Didn't Bush almost quadruple the size of the federal government?

I know for a fact he tripled the size of the BATF alone.

For all of those freaked out that Obama might be coming after your guns, just remember who authorized the hiring of the guy busting down your door.

Thank God for government jobs! I would still be jobless if i didn't work for the city

Come on! Who's surprised!




And the world looks just the same
And history ain't changed
'Cause the banners, they all flown in the last war

I'll tip my hat to the new constitution
Take a bow for the new revolution
Smile and grin at the change all around me
Pick up my guitar and play
Just like yesterday
No, no!

I'll move myself and my family aside
If we happen to be left half alive
I'll get all my papers and smile at the sky
For I know that the hypnotized never lie

Do ya?

YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!

There's nothing in the street
Looks any different to me
And the slogans are replaced, by-the-bye
And the parting on the left
Is now the parting on the right
And the beards have all grown longer overnight

I'll tip my hat to the new constitution
Take a bow for the new revolution
Smile and grin at the change all around me
Pick up my guitar and play
Just like yesterday
Then I'll get on my knees and pray
We don't get fooled again
Don't get fooled again
No, no!

YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!

Meet the new boss
Same as the old boss
---------------------------------
The Who - We won't be Fooled Again

I complained... The bigger the government, the less managable... Those are the facts. When trying to make a government work, the last thing you want to do is make it bigger.

And BTW The size of the government increased almost as drastically under Clinton, than even more under Bush. Our government is broken,it is corrupt, and it is unmanagable. I just don't understand the logic of increasing it's size, power, or both at least until it's corrption has been treated...

When the civilian job market suffers, and we, instead of helping new businesses develope, we increase their taxes, while at the same time open government jobs for people, wouldn't you be shrinking the competition in the private sector while increasing the size of the government owned sector? And since, no one would argue, our government is owned by a very few select private businesses, wouldn't that be looking out for the top dogs and attacking the middle ones?

Let me offer you some optimistic thoughts.

What do we know of wisdom that we can relate to this situation? One's blessing is his curse. O.K., let us apply this to government.

While they may think that the bigger they grow, the more powerful they become, it just might be their own undoing. As they become more numerous, they become less organized, and their right hand knows less of what their left hand is doing. Another problem is that with their growth in numbers, their applicable resources per individual government representative dwindle. They attract more and more hate from general population. They are going to waste more and more time aligning and realigning their own inner working than they can spend extracting the revenue from independent free-roaming individuals. They become an elephant in a cage, accompanied by a bunch of rats.

I believe they will become an easier prey.

2 million people lost their jobs last year. Enough said, IMO.

Estimate of U.S. current workforce (2007) was 3,808,000
Of this workforce 2,730,050
Were employed by the Federal government (All functions, including Postal and Education)

Let’s face it, we work for the government, they have long since stopped working for the people.

Not only do all those employees work for the government, but they return about 25% of their pay to the government to secure future payroll.

Seriously, how do you feel about all that? Imagine the economic structure of the dollar failing!

Now imagine this: -- More than 1 million people took the Oath of Allegiance and became U.S. citizens during fiscal 2008, the largest number in the 100 years the government has been keeping records, according to the Department of Homeland Security.

And this:
Both the number of unemployed persons (10.3 million) and the unemploy-
ment rate (6.7 percent) continued to increase in November. Since the start
of the recession in December 2007, as recently announced by the National
Bureau of Economic Research, the number of unemployed persons increased by
2.7 million, and the unemployment rate rose by 1.7 percentage points.

The national unemployment rate reached a 15-year record-high of 6.7 percent in November and is expected to go up to 7 percent for December when the government releases its unemployment data for the month next week.

REMEMBER, these statistics come from those as they apply for unemployment. Many are not eligible for unemployment benefits and don’t file, many more are underemployed, having been forced to reduce hours and pay from their regular job to those taking part-time jobs or seeking jobs in lesser paying fields or unrelated fields of their education.

And right now the government spends millions to employ specialists to figure out what they can do about the 78% of baby boomers set to retire in the next 5 years.

Tell me, do you honestly think that all those baby boomers will be able to afford to retire? Do honestly think all us baby boomers are rich enough to think we can survive for another 30 to 40 year without social security or health benefits? Do you think so many are dumb enough to try?

I don’t think we’ll see the mass exodus of baby boomers from the work force. More time and money the government is wasting trying to figure out HOW TO FILL THE GAP from all those people dropping out of the workforce. What about the millions of NEW U.S. citizens?

Your statistics are way off redy!

From the CIA World Fact Book!

GDP - composition by sector:
agriculture: 1.2%
industry: 19.8%
services: 79% (2007 est.)
Labor force:
153.1 million (includes unemployed) (2007 est.)
Labor force - by occupation:
farming, forestry, and fishing 0.6%, manufacturing, extraction, transportation, and crafts 22.6%, managerial, professional, and technical 35.5%, sales and office 24.8%, other services 16.5%
note: figures exclude the unemployed (2007)
Unemployed 4.6% (2007)

Meaning that the stock market is going to be in a long gradual decline, not a sharp drop and "recovery".

With boomers selling their stock, who's going to be buying it?

Dude, you're now quoting yourself...