What I am going to say below is my humble opinion on how I would hope things would be. If it sounds traditional it is. Maybe because after years people do figure out what works and all the "fad" dateing concepts are just that. I know that is not always possible and some people make other choices. That is fine for them if it makes them happy. Even if it doesn't I don't think it makes them bad people.........so I think........

Cheap date seems like and insulting concept to both the man who would want it and the woman who would lower herself to be sold to someone who would under bid her true value and dignity.

Does that always mean every date has to or should work up to some incredibly expensive production? Absoulutely not. The great date is where someone focuses on you, listens to you, enjoys being with you. And creates a memory you can not get out of your heart.

If a woman is incredibly rude enough to tell a man he has to take her here or there or is tacky enough to expand on an invitation like a spoiled princess greedily adding on to a date say for dinner with multiple drinks, desserts and other flourishes deserves to be dropped like a hot potatoe.

A gentleman has the good grace and self respect to take her home and keep her bad manners to himself. There is an old saying that we are judged by our choices so fool me once shame on you but fool me twice shame on me. Be it man or woman who continuely strikes out after one date their reputation should proceed them.

Following suite of what a date orders is just being polite. Since allowing a host to order has fallen out of fashion that is really the only way to go unless your date has suggested something he thinks you might like. Unless you have some allergy or religious prohibition it is generally expected that you follow his suggestion. After all wouldn't you expect him to eat a meal you prepared for him?

If a gentleman offers a date he has made the invitation and it is rude to assume that he does not have the good judgement or where-with-all to afford what he has invited a lady to do.

It is not prostitution to accept a date or offer one so sex is NOT obligatory. And no regardless what you might see in some places neither side is asexual because they don't try to get in "bed". Passion is wonderful but so is actually having the maturity and self control to wait until you know the person well enough to truely value the experience.

I personally believe it is incredibly bad manners for a date to suggest that a host has such bad manners not to tip sufficiently. If you are in a powder room and are attended that is your responsibility but if you have to pay for the service then he is a bum.

With that said a woman who repeatedly accepts dates and does not return and invitation of similiar consideration even if not value in dollars is a woman who's generosity and good manners I would question also.

If I were a man and the lady did not have the good manners to follow with a polite note that she had enjoyed the encounter and a Thank You I doubt I would bother to ask her again. If a lady reciprocated an invitation and did not at least recieve flowers before during or after I would think the man unawares of social graces besides disinterested.

That said a man who is so insecure that he can not accept a date from a lady and has to make some macho display that he is the superior earner by not graciously accepting it is predicting a power play that doesn't speak well for him.

The whole arguement that women are equal or better earners is irrelevant. The man is suppose to be the provider when a relationship is established and a woman is suppose to be his helpmate.

The Harley store is my first date fall back spot! Guess I need to work overtime!

Are you a cheap date?

Hell yeah...dollar menu here I come.

hmm cheap?
What really counts as cheap?

Newest person i am dating - we did a dinner for about 50 dollars.. on me and last night sushi on her for about the same price ( she insisted, i swear). I consider that cheap. Usally stick around that area while dating unless its a special day.
The Dollar Menu is something i hit up on the way back from the bar/club with a group of friends lol.. not something i would buy for a date, unless there is a roadtrip involved. But to each their own i guess.

I mean if you are taking the time to ask someone out, why not put forth a litte effort?

can i borrow 50 bucks man

So cute, so young.. lol.

Don't you have boot starting Monday? Oh you won't need any money there. Paid meals/ housing/ good times.. well not good times!

Acutally its not all bad, think of it as living your life.. it's only as hard as you make it

best wishes