What if this world was created by many different Gods. Actually all the Gods we as humans can create in our minds actually exist. Just like today we around the world believe in somekind of identity, except for Atheists of course. My hats off to you by the way.

But let us say this where to be true that all the Gods we believe in are really existent and it is a competition amongst the Gods who use us as ponds on a chess board.

but wait let me continue....

now imagine that at the moment that the God of Evil is actually winning this competition at the moment in the year 2009 coming up.

Those for example who study a mediterrenean mythology and claim they will be saved or rescued or what have you are actually going to fall into something they have never thought would happen to them.

Now let us say that you realized that the very God you worship is actually Satan in disguise. For example Ancient Egyptian Ra and the Pharoahs, Christians with Jesus, Muslims with Allah and their prophet Mohammed, Jews with Abrahim and Moses are all the same God that has made his variations to influence the greatest amount of followers to worship him by will.

Now I know this is impossible to believe, but let us say that you realize at the last moment at a tender age that this particular God truly is the wrong one you where hoping for.

In the end you realize you were practicing Satanism without even knowing it.

Would you still blindly follow the words the scriptures entail in the bible, torah, koran, or would you stop to realize that maybe this is not right for me.

Explain your studies and reasons why you would or would not believe in this in your words.

thanks

One Word:

Chaos.


Just like what is happening AMONG MAN MADE gods, already.

But aren't you Glad that

GOD is not man made...

but is the ONLY TRUE AND LIVING GOD....

Who is not a God of CHAOS...

but a God of ORDER?

Otherwise ,the planets would all spin our of orbit...

the sun would not stay at exactly 93 million miles from the earth...

just the right distance to sustain life.....

our heartbeat would not beat steadily ...

day in and day out...

the sun would not rise and set without fail....

day afer day afer day.

Only ONE GOD ALMIGHTY ....

is able

to keep Everything in

Perfect Balance and Perfect Order....

and KNOWS Exactly what He is Doing...

even if man doesn't .

thank god for that right!

I don't worry about any of that kind of foolishness.

It's really quite simple.

Either God is nicer than me or not.

If God is nicer than me then I have nothing to fear, and neither does anyone else.

If God is not as nice as me then nobody's safe no matter what they think they believe.

Of course this wouldn't necessarily be true for everyone.

For example, God could actually be nicer than some people and still be really mean.

So this philosophy will only hold true people who know they are truly nice.

It's kind of like people who believe the Bible when it says that all people are sinners. Clearly they must feel pretty guilty about something to believe that.

Otherwise they'd know that it's not true.

I sometimes wonder what it means for a religion that believes in heaven and hell. I understand historically the reasons but one who guts out his soul in a faith on such a belief, I never understood this in a human being who wishes to practice it.

Think about this for a moment if you can please

A man believes in God but just differently. Maybe just doesn't want to believe that this God has a ounce of hatred, jealousy, or evil in him to know what evil can do. That is the kind of God I always wanted to imagine. If it is to be true, I don't know.

but let us say it is

Then can a God actually watch souls burn in hell. He actually sits there and watches suffering and death in such a fashion?

I mean isn't it horrible as a human to watch another human hanged?? Isn't it horrible to think that death row is justified when you watch a man or woman being electocuted in a chair or poisioned with a needle??

I mean yes the person did wrong but does two wrongs make one right?

I often wonder if a higher intelligence "Holy if you will" like many religions want to present him or her can do such a act that we as humans do.

It is a great mystery to me and sad when you think about it. Well at least for me it is.

WOW Will you join the mingle2 debating team.
If i didn't believe in god already i would've just
converted!!! and as to not offend anyone i feel i must say that as long your kind and respectful to others i don't care what your beliefs are.

Clearly the idea of a vengeful God is a manmade idea. There is nothing holy about it.

How anyone intelligent person can even remotely think that such a mentality could be holy is beyond me.

Although, from a practical point of view I suppose it's a good mythology to have around. Clearly it makes a different for some people.

I've heard quite a few believers say that if there was no God they'd have no reason to be good.

Very sad but true.

I suppose for those people we need a mythology like this.

The only problem with it is that people get carried away with it and start preaching to other good people and condemning them for not beliving it the myth.

That's where it backfires.

When it starts turning good people against good people causing them to accuse others of 'rejecting' God, then it becomes a serious problem.

It's truly ashame that anyone needs religion to be a good person.

Think about it for one second.

Who would a creator be more pleased with, a person who will only restrain their behavior because they fear punihsment, or a completely atheists who does good because it's just who they are?

I can't help but believe that a creator would be overly thrilled with the latter person, and seriously disappointed with the first.

I know that if I had created two robots, and one was naturally good, and the other one had to be kept in line by constantly threatening it, I would be very much more please with the robot that was naturally good.

Surely a creator of humans would feel the same way.

The human baby doesn't know evil or bad when it pops out of the womb. I mean I have never seen a child commit crimes when given the care of peaceful parents. It grows with the influence of its caregivers and surroundings at a older age.

So if the human baby isn't confronted with bad habits let us say then it should live a peaceful life in the end.

I too cannot see how a God could punish a person who doesn't believe in any theology as long as he doesn't harm anyone him or herself. I actually don't believe a bad person will go to a hell either, but that is just my personal opinion. I don't know if he ressurrects to relive on Earth or is sent to another planet or what have you, but to be eternally banished would be harsh.

Why would a God banish that person at all? It just wouldn't be justified if so in my opinion. Maybe a punishment would be given?

I mean I know Native Americans who don't study the Bible for it isn't in their community to study. If it was a choice the elders chose or if they insisted to practice their belief systems that predated any mediterrenean mythology. It was their choice to live a different type of spiritual system that they find fulfilling.

They live peacefully and have the audacity to forgive those who done wrong to them. They find this as a strength and use compassion when they mean it and let me tell you that these fine folk where treated like animals at one time in history.

So I truly think that they will see a light at the end of the tunnel when they pass away. I asked if they believe in a heaven or hell and they told me that we are one with nature and coexist with the spirits who nourish them. So this tells me they practice a similiarity to Buddhism, but in a different tradition.

Actually I want to believe everyone will find a light down the tunnel rather they believe or not or even those who have done mistakes in their life.

but who cares what I think right

Just making idol chat here anyway.

sorry to butt in but i sec.that..

1000111010123....

Thank You for your very kind Words.

Be Very Blessed Now,1000111010123

Thank you MorningSong the truth is always best when it's kind...May you have a Blessed, Safe Happy New Years

I would like to say i'm sorry to Abra. and smiless
for butting into their discussion and i hope they and everyone have a Safe And Happy New Years..

Bill

Please no need to be sorry Bill. My name is John.

Anyone is entitled to post here whenever and whatever. I am no authority at all!

Just a traveler like you. For some I am a pest and for others I am admired. I can accept either or. No problem at all.

May your life be full of happiness and inner peace.

Uh...so who has a choice. Do we live with pain & suffering? No heaven or hell?

I think not.

It's a reality...why make it more complicated than it is?

Whose reality?

Not mine...that's for sure...

Absolutes have a habit of whacking one in the back of the head....

if all the Gods are using the human race as pawns in a chess game then couldn't one considered that all the Gods involved in this game were Gods of Evil

Um, what is real? If you're talking about Heaven/Hell, then surely you have some proof that backs up that claim.

could be considered a possiblity

Well, that's quite a concept Smiless.

Actually, I kinda like it. It would mean there is no reason at all for religion and those who hold to any particular belief system, do so in vain.

For in the end, we cannot please every god, so why try to please any of them. Instead we could just deny them, cast off what divides us the most; religion. Maybe if we lived more peacefully, all the gods' fun would be spoiled and they'd leave us to our freedom.

Of course there would be those who would take bets on whose god would win the day, but it may be the only way to win with multiple gods, for when we die we might be caught in limbo, as the gods wage war over their spiritual territory....

My imagination always gets the best of me Red yet perhaps it is a possiblity nevertheless

I had a little time to think about it. Perhaps one side of the Gods are evil as they watch how humans suffer, use violence, lie, etc. etc.

and the oppossing team is trying to prove them wrong that life can be full of love, happiness, joy, etc. etc.

A competition of the two sides as nations are moved around like a boardgame of Risk