Topic: what if there is a GOD
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Tue 12/30/08 09:29 AM


i'd like to ask why all the violence in GOD'S name in the beginning

why did he create us if he knew we where goig to be as selfish and violent as we are


This is obvious, since we know good and evil like god cause we ate a apple right? Well we have no frame of referance for these concepts without the other, so violence is gods teacher of a higher morality. This can be applied to any vice seen as destructive. These are really just social delemias, the universe cares not about our mixed signals from evolution to be social yet to ensure we have access to resource and mating rights blah blah blah. I think id ask god why tooth decay? Seems non-vital to our moral learning and can be painful. Sometimes deadly. Isnt there enough death and ways to die, does it really serve a purpose in divine plan? Was he lazy that day? Wait Wait I got it! There is no GOD! ah yes.


Nothing to do with God I'm affraid that's down to our own Choices...he gave us what we need we choose to destroy it...

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Tue 12/30/08 09:30 AM
Edited by Strange on Tue 12/30/08 09:30 AM

well...in a sense...you're her Savior...:angel: lol...I also have a 14 year old cat...Zeeasha...he's fat...always has been...lol...also have two dogs...they're not fat ...:smile:


Lucky isn't fat, thankfully. It all depends on the diet, and since she is an indoor cat I have to be very careful. She gets one pouch of whiskas, and after that, if she wants more, there are always nuts for her.


Do all cats vomit? I think i found my second question.

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Tue 12/30/08 09:31 AM

well...in a sense...you're her Savior...:angel: lol...I also have a 14 year old cat...Zeeasha...he's fat...always has been...lol...also have two dogs...they're not fat ...:smile:


Lucky isn't fat, thankfully. It all depends on the diet, and since she is an indoor cat I have to be very careful. She gets one pouch of whiskas, and after that, if she wants more, there are always nuts for her.


we both talk like Steven Wright...lol...who said..." how do you know when you run out of invisible ink ? "...laugh

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Tue 12/30/08 09:32 AM
ANd you shall know my name is lord when i lay my vengence on you. Hmmm actaully god was quite the butt kicker, fire rainig on cities and such youd think a supremem being having created us could factored in the behavior part.

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Tue 12/30/08 09:35 AM



i'd like to ask why all the violence in GOD'S name in the beginning

why did he create us if he knew we where goig to be as selfish and violent as we are


This is obvious, since we know good and evil like god cause we ate a apple right? Well we have no frame of referance for these concepts without the other, so violence is gods teacher of a higher morality. This can be applied to any vice seen as destructive. These are really just social delemias, the universe cares not about our mixed signals from evolution to be social yet to ensure we have access to resource and mating rights blah blah blah. I think id ask god why tooth decay? Seems non-vital to our moral learning and can be painful. Sometimes deadly. Isnt there enough death and ways to die, does it really serve a purpose in divine plan? Was he lazy that day? Wait Wait I got it! There is no GOD! ah yes.


Nothing to do with God I'm affraid that's down to our own Choices...he gave us what we need we choose to destroy it...


I absolutley love the blantant arrogent assumptions, nope not god im afraid its blah blah. It is only through grace that you can be saved and be moral by following the word of god, god failed to give some the grafce it appears.

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Tue 12/30/08 09:35 AM

ANd you shall know my name is lord when i lay my vengence on you. Hmmm actaully god was quite the butt kicker, fire rainig on cities and such youd think a supremem being having created us could factored in the behavior part.


Does Vengeance come in the form of a spell checker? :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

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Tue 12/30/08 09:36 AM
I think it's highly unlikely god exists. Until evidence is shown for me to believe otherwise then I'll still believe what I believe now. Even if he/she/it exists I would rather go to hell anyway because I refuse to worship a god who likes playing games with people.

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Tue 12/30/08 09:36 AM



i'd like to ask why all the violence in GOD'S name in the beginning

why did he create us if he knew we where goig to be as selfish and violent as we are


This is obvious, since we know good and evil like god cause we ate a apple right? Well we have no frame of referance for these concepts without the other, so violence is gods teacher of a higher morality. This can be applied to any vice seen as destructive. These are really just social delemias, the universe cares not about our mixed signals from evolution to be social yet to ensure we have access to resource and mating rights blah blah blah. I think id ask god why tooth decay? Seems non-vital to our moral learning and can be painful. Sometimes deadly. Isnt there enough death and ways to die, does it really serve a purpose in divine plan? Was he lazy that day? Wait Wait I got it! There is no GOD! ah yes.


Nothing to do with God I'm affraid that's down to our own Choices...he gave us what we need we choose to destroy it...


But seriously what were you referring to? the tooth decay part?

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Tue 12/30/08 09:37 AM

I think it's highly unlikely god exists. Until evidence is shown for me to believe otherwise then I'll still believe what I believe now. Even if he/she/it exists I would rather go to hell anyway because I refuse to worship a god who likes playing games with people.


Who needs him anyway, i can be moral without a promise and a threat.

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Tue 12/30/08 09:37 AM


well...in a sense...you're her Savior...:angel: lol...I also have a 14 year old cat...Zeeasha...he's fat...always has been...lol...also have two dogs...they're not fat ...:smile:


Lucky isn't fat, thankfully. It all depends on the diet, and since she is an indoor cat I have to be very careful. She gets one pouch of whiskas, and after that, if she wants more, there are always nuts for her.


Do all cats vomit? I think i found my second question.


yes, I think they do, and always when you least expect them. Has to do with their washing themselves. When they get too much fur in their stomach they puke.

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Tue 12/30/08 09:38 AM
why did you let it happen to me { wreck } ?..........................and why did you let me be as I am now { visually impared & physically challenged } ?

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Tue 12/30/08 09:38 AM

I think it's highly unlikely god exists. Until evidence is shown for me to believe otherwise then I'll still believe what I believe now. Even if he/she/it exists I would rather go to hell anyway because I refuse to worship a god who likes playing games with people.


Must mean, using your own logic that you don't believe in Air or Electricity then...you see the effects of it, but not the product itself...perhaps the world is still flat in that case? :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

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Tue 12/30/08 09:40 AM


ANd you shall know my name is lord when i lay my vengence on you. Hmmm actaully god was quite the butt kicker, fire rainig on cities and such youd think a supremem being having created us could factored in the behavior part.


Does Vengeance come in the form of a spell checker? :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:


yuo cna raed tihs no, i know yuo cna, so, anyway.
Who spell checks a debate about santa claus? Anyway that is a very common logical falacy called poisening the well, some how my poor typing has weakened the argument I suppose, or you would rather or are more concerned with your ego than points and debate, so you scrape what you can I see.

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Tue 12/30/08 09:41 AM


I think it's highly unlikely god exists. Until evidence is shown for me to believe otherwise then I'll still believe what I believe now. Even if he/she/it exists I would rather go to hell anyway because I refuse to worship a god who likes playing games with people.


Must mean, using your own logic that you don't believe in Air or Electricity then...you see the effects of it, but not the product itself...perhaps the world is still flat in that case? :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:


Sighgt is not the only way to measure elements and phenominon, how is it though you measure god?

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Tue 12/30/08 09:41 AM



ANd you shall know my name is lord when i lay my vengence on you. Hmmm actaully god was quite the butt kicker, fire rainig on cities and such youd think a supremem being having created us could factored in the behavior part.


Does Vengeance come in the form of a spell checker? :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:


yuo cna raed tihs no, i know yuo cna, so, anyway.
Who spell checks a debate about santa claus? Anyway that is a very common logical falacy called poisening the well, some how my poor typing has weakened the argument I suppose, or you would rather or are more concerned with your ego than points and debate, so you scrape what you can I see.


Sorry, my spell check works without being asked to.laugh

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Tue 12/30/08 09:42 AM


I think it's highly unlikely god exists. Until evidence is shown for me to believe otherwise then I'll still believe what I believe now. Even if he/she/it exists I would rather go to hell anyway because I refuse to worship a god who likes playing games with people.


Must mean, using your own logic that you don't believe in Air or Electricity then...you see the effects of it, but not the product itself...perhaps the world is still flat in that case? :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:


Too bad for you that the existence of the Air and Electricity has been proven. The existence of God has yet to be proven, and the only "proof" I have ever seen presented was the lack of knowledge about how some things work.

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Tue 12/30/08 09:42 AM
You go yet?

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Tue 12/30/08 09:44 AM



I think it's highly unlikely god exists. Until evidence is shown for me to believe otherwise then I'll still believe what I believe now. Even if he/she/it exists I would rather go to hell anyway because I refuse to worship a god who likes playing games with people.


Must mean, using your own logic that you don't believe in Air or Electricity then...you see the effects of it, but not the product itself...perhaps the world is still flat in that case? :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:


Sighgt is not the only way to measure elements and phenominon, how is it though you measure god?



Sleeve rolled up now...lets go for it...you want an intelligent debate or just a soap box full of Statements...

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Tue 12/30/08 09:44 AM
ANyone else? ok ill come back later discuss, give me a challenge, perhaps ill be serious, when you are.

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Tue 12/30/08 09:46 AM




I think it's highly unlikely god exists. Until evidence is shown for me to believe otherwise then I'll still believe what I believe now. Even if he/she/it exists I would rather go to hell anyway because I refuse to worship a god who likes playing games with people.


Must mean, using your own logic that you don't believe in Air or Electricity then...you see the effects of it, but not the product itself...perhaps the world is still flat in that case? :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:


Sighgt is not the only way to measure elements and phenominon, how is it though you measure god?



Sleeve rolled up now...lets go for it...you want an intelligent debate or just a soap box full of Statements...


Please do