I'm not trying to point fingers...but...on this board...it amazes me at how many people lay the blame at the feet of President Bush...In my opinion...the major mistake that he made...was that he didn't veto some of these bills that came across his desk...but...as we know...the only way he was ever going to get what he wanted...was with earmarks out the ying yang...and...that can be be quite painful !!...LOL

Capitalism and free market are not our enemy. There are but very few corporations with the power to influence us. These corporations are global corporations so our country is not to blame either.

The best way to keep our corporate threats honest is to allow a free market to prosper. They keep competition at bay by using regulations (like the FDA).

You and i both respect Dr. Ron Paul. That is his advice to us.

Socialism is a system that has proven to not work. When you start introducing socialism in a capitalist environment you will find that the government will be lining the pockets of these individuals that "take care of us" because we cannot afford to take care of ourselves. This is dangerous combination. This was the problem i had with a national health care system. Basically, there are a few select corporate giants that pretty much run our government. How on earth would it be wise to even more power over us?

If you allow other businesses to prosper and compete with the "big wigs" making our lives unaffordable, than you are unconsolidating power. As you know, the first step of corruption is consolidation of power... Deconsolidate power, cut back on corruption. Just a thought...

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Capitalism and free market are not our enemy. There are but very few corporations with the power to influence us. These corporations are global corporations so our country is not to blame either.

The best way to keep our corporate threats honest is to allow a free market to prosper. They keep competition at bay by using regulations (like the FDA).

You and i both respect Dr. Ron Paul. That is his advice to us.

Socialism is a system that has proven to not work. When you start introducing socialism in a capitalist environment you will find that the government will be lining the pockets of these individuals that "take care of us" because we cannot afford to take care of ourselves. This is dangerous combination. This was the problem i had with a national health care system. Basically, there are a few select corporate giants that pretty much run our government. How on earth would it be wise to even more power over us?

If you allow other businesses to prosper and compete with the "big wigs" making our lives unaffordable, than you are unconsolidating power. As you know, the first step of corruption is consolidation of power... Deconsolidate power, cut back on corruption. Just a thought...

What system has been proven to work?

social security

So far, but that was unexpected.

We are socialistic in some ways. Every time we pay taxes, we spread the money around to different places.

The best political model is the Social Democracy which supports a more intense participation of the citizens in the decisions of the government.
In this way is the people and not the big economic powers the one who decide.
However as every political model is an utopy until the seeds of corruption are erradicated.
Until the big business owners are controlled by the government, and not the other way around.
Until umbilical cord which makes countries as mine slaves of the empire of the north is broken.
Until these things happens a wonderful political model as social democracy will be an utopy

The best political model is the Social Democracy which supports a more intense participation of the citizens in the decisions of the government.
In this way is the people and not the big economic powers the one who decide.
However as every political model is an utopy until the seeds of corruption are erradicated.
Until the big business owners are controlled by the government, and not the other way around.
Until umbilical cord which makes countries as mine slaves of the empire of the north is broken.
Until these things happens a wonderful political model as social democracy will be an utopy

Didnt we just try that for 8 long years?

LOL, You have GOT to be joking...

How has Bush helped the free market?

Free market works because of checks and balances. A democratic republic has checks and balances. Were are unbalanced. If you balance the powers you have a working government/civilization.

How can people actually believe the government taking more control will help anyone? Seriously. For those that think so, i would suggest doing some homework... Look up great civilizations that parished.

Socialism doesn't work. Communism works only under a dictatorship, capitalism CAN work if done right. It's not too late. We the people keep the free market in check, providing the government isn't trying to support oligopolies and monopolies (which is what's happening).

Who will keep the people in check?

And what happens if the big business owners are in charge of the government? (Which is what's happened to us.)

We would need a full scale revolution to make this work...

The intervention in the markets only took place after they had been un regulated and under taxed then at the precipace of disaster Bush had to step in and save them from themselves, its the only correct thing he has done as president in my mind

powers such Germany and France are based on social democratic model.
yes, big owners rule the North American government, no wonder why they mess up financial markets, then they cry for help from the government. The governmen gives 700 billion dollars, and who pays? the taxpayers (citizens) and what they say?
not much, they are mental slaves.

powers such Germany and France are based on social democratic model.
yes, big owners rule the North American government, no wonder why they mess up financial markets, then they cry for help from the government. The governmen gives 700 billion dollars, and who pays? the taxpayers (citizens) and what they say?
not much, they are mental slaves.