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well yet another update, i left when my saftey was in question, when the person decides to throw things etc and then decides to ignore they did anything, i decides to leave as i was the object of attacks both verbal and physical, also the person has since departed the city, i am not sure if shall hear from them again or not, i would prefer not., so before anybody suggests i did or said anything to invite this agression, try living with a manic depressed person for a awhile during the down turn times.
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well yet another update, i left when my saftey was in question, when the person decides to throw things etc and then decides to ignore they did anything, i decides to leave as i was the object of attacks both verbal and physical, also the person has since departed the city, i am not sure if shall hear from them again or not, i would prefer not., so before anybody suggests i did or said anything to invite this agression, try living with a manic depressed person for a awhile during the down turn times. It's very understandable. You have to take care of yourself. 
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Its brain chemistry.
You didn't cause it, you can't cure it, and you can't control it. Take care of yourself.
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cool i like 12 step programs thanks
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well yet another update, i left when my saftey was in question, when the person decides to throw things etc and then decides to ignore they did anything, i decides to leave as i was the object of attacks both verbal and physical, also the person has since departed the city, i am not sure if shall hear from them again or not, i would prefer not., so before anybody suggests i did or said anything to invite this agression, try living with a manic depressed person for a awhile during the down turn times. Sometimes when dealing with an individual that is bi-polar, there are time when it doesn't matter what you say or do, they are going to have a negative reaction and/or attack you (verbal or physical). |
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MY experience 11 years last 3 years on drugs coc. rehab then back on drugs totally ruined my life, and his children and grandchildren. get away while you can!!!!!!!please!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Although manic depressive can cause severe mood swings and even alter perspection drastically do to that it is still treatable though theopy and communication. Cognitive psychology self awareness of illness are positive steps for the one who is ill the best way to deal with a person suffering from a mental affliction is education, empathy and tolerance. Help that person find resources and support groups so they can se there affliction objectively. All mental illness has gradients as well, however if the person has lucid states theropy can be very helpful, conitive psychology, though I havent researched the studies claim to be able to help scizophenia, of course in some there is no lucid moments sadly.
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I am also confused with what you are saying. If you have left her after 5 years of dealing with the problem then why are you asking about how to deal with her problem? I agree you are not telling us something? Whats up my friend?
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I dont think anyone is saying that you brought it on yourself. I myself am confused about what and how you are saying things. I think you need to move on with your life. After 5 years of abuse from someone you care about, now that you are not together you need to find someone who will treat you like a king.
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Dude, i was with a woman that was dually diagnost with bi-polar and manic, after 3 years i left. In my opinion, there is no excuse when it comes to the way u treat a person. She used her "ailment" as an excuse to do absoultly nothing and treat me like crap. I dont blame u 1 bit for ending it, in my opinion, 95% of mental illnesses is just another label for a person who lacks self control!! It's a chemical imbalance of the brain. Its a Theory that is horribly over used and with no grounds based in science. If the chemicals and receptors were off, your body would cease to function, causing DEATH. Besides no persons body has a docummented BALANCE of chemicals for there to be an inbalance. Its just Psudo-science, just another cop-out to prevent self responsobilty I respectfully disagree. I have a background in psych. What you said doesn't hold water. When a person is addicted to crack, their chemicals are off balance and their synapses have changed. They are not dead. It's documented with cat scans of the brain and blood tests, btw. I have a strong background in primate psych myself, and with all the love and respect, i know better. Show me a chemical chart that stats a proven and established chemical balance,because there has to be a balance for there to be an inbalance. Ill bet u cant because there never has been 1. Cat scans are just a tomography machine and they can only show physical abnormalities and do nothing for chemical makeup. Let me guess, pfizer puts out the blood tests right? Point is the idea is a theory that has no proof based in science, and in my and alot of other opinions, is junk science and cant and will never be proven Research what crack does to a brain. You'll find that the dopamine and seratonin gets decreased. Their brain gets re-wired and the receptors/synapses change. I don't have to find you a chart. I already know the facts. Bi-polar patients are hospitalized while they take blood tests to see which medicines help the best. benzoylmethyl ecgonine blocks dopimine transporter protien. Addiction is a physical illness anyway, It causes actual brain, liver and cardiovascular damage. mental illness is a whole nother ball game, The mental illness umbrella is a load of pseudo scientifical BS that cant be proven because its a man made excuse for there own actions. Natures machine is the brain controls the body, When people are held accountable for there actions with little to no cop-outs, we will see this junk all go away. Even Pfizer recognizes that its a THEORY, check out the bottom of there Zoloft adds, there advertisements assert that mental illness MAY be due to chemical imbalances in the brain, and that their drugs correct this imbalance. Addiction becomes a physical illness after the addiction is long term. The brain chemical imbalance starts years before the physical injuries. Some mental illnesses are chemical imbalances of the brain. I guess that you think that Alzheimers is about lack of control too. Hehe, im more educated than that,its cause by amyloid plaques with neurofibrillary tangles, but that is still just a theory. Its obvious that it again is a physical illness, that is completely out of our control unlike our conscience thought and actions Ah now I get, yes amyloid plaques....wiki huh? If your so educated why are you asking for advice? Can you explain the mechanism of action without consulting any online sources and talk about things which you know nothing? The whole chemical model of brain illness is inspired and data and reseach corupted by phramasuitical companies. Secondly regarding the responders view as mental illness as an exuse, well it can be used that way for sometimes and everyone ill or not uses environmental reasons to comfort thier percieved inferiority or helplesness what have you. How ever all human beings are biased by thier subjective opinoin in which they filter others actions in a way understandable to them, you have explained your own observations about yourself, nothing more. Your tone indicates you had a realtionship in which conflict was dealt with by blaming and insults of character in an effort to cope with one another its quite common and almost standard, clean up your side of the street is a common saying. |
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there is plenty of neuological differances in many cases of mental illnes, some even can predict future illness by how the brain develops. The subject is not completely understood because the human brain is one of the most complex systems in the universe, "If our brains were so simple we could understand them, we wouldnt."
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NAMI
http://www.nami.org/ |
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Dude, i was with a woman that was dually diagnost with bi-polar and manic, after 3 years i left. In my opinion, there is no excuse when it comes to the way u treat a person. She used her "ailment" as an excuse to do absoultly nothing and treat me like crap. I dont blame u 1 bit for ending it, in my opinion, 95% of mental illnesses is just another label for a person who lacks self control!! It's a chemical imbalance of the brain. Its a Theory that is horribly over used and with no grounds based in science. If the chemicals and receptors were off, your body would cease to function, causing DEATH. Besides no persons body has a docummented BALANCE of chemicals for there to be an inbalance. Its just Psudo-science, just another cop-out to prevent self responsobilty I respectfully disagree. I have a background in psych. What you said doesn't hold water. When a person is addicted to crack, their chemicals are off balance and their synapses have changed. They are not dead. It's documented with cat scans of the brain and blood tests, btw. I have a strong background in primate psych myself, and with all the love and respect, i know better. Show me a chemical chart that stats a proven and established chemical balance,because there has to be a balance for there to be an inbalance. Ill bet u cant because there never has been 1. Cat scans are just a tomography machine and they can only show physical abnormalities and do nothing for chemical makeup. Let me guess, pfizer puts out the blood tests right? Point is the idea is a theory that has no proof based in science, and in my and alot of other opinions, is junk science and cant and will never be proven Research what crack does to a brain. You'll find that the dopamine and seratonin gets decreased. Their brain gets re-wired and the receptors/synapses change. I don't have to find you a chart. I already know the facts. Bi-polar patients are hospitalized while they take blood tests to see which medicines help the best. benzoylmethyl ecgonine blocks dopimine transporter protien. Addiction is a physical illness anyway, It causes actual brain, liver and cardiovascular damage. mental illness is a whole nother ball game, The mental illness umbrella is a load of pseudo scientifical BS that cant be proven because its a man made excuse for there own actions. Natures machine is the brain controls the body, When people are held accountable for there actions with little to no cop-outs, we will see this junk all go away. Even Pfizer recognizes that its a THEORY, check out the bottom of there Zoloft adds, there advertisements assert that mental illness MAY be due to chemical imbalances in the brain, and that their drugs correct this imbalance. Addiction becomes a physical illness after the addiction is long term. The brain chemical imbalance starts years before the physical injuries. Some mental illnesses are chemical imbalances of the brain. I guess that you think that Alzheimers is about lack of control too. Hehe, im more educated than that,its cause by amyloid plaques with neurofibrillary tangles, but that is still just a theory. Its obvious that it again is a physical illness, that is completely out of our control unlike our conscience thought and actions Ah now I get, yes amyloid plaques....wiki huh? If your so educated why are you asking for advice? Can you explain the mechanism of action without consulting any online sources and talk about things which you know nothing? The whole chemical model of brain illness is inspired and data and reseach corupted by phramasuitical companies. Secondly regarding the responders view as mental illness as an exuse, well it can be used that way for sometimes and everyone ill or not uses environmental reasons to comfort thier percieved inferiority or helplesness what have you. How ever all human beings are biased by thier subjective opinoin in which they filter others actions in a way understandable to them, you have explained your own observations about yourself, nothing more. Your tone indicates you had a realtionship in which conflict was dealt with by blaming and insults of character in an effort to cope with one another its quite common and almost standard, clean up your side of the street is a common saying. Guess again on the wiki, lol, I love medicine, both human and non human. Im not the one asking for advise, I just stated my opinion thats all. |
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my sister is bi-polar and i just spent the past three days running her around... oh my goodness i wouldn't want to live inside of her mind for 10 seconds...she is on meds also has extreme ADHD and Lupus
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Manic Depressives tend to easily become addicted.
Many use alcohol and/or drugs to self medicate. Generally in Michigan a person who is manic depressive can not be forced to receive treatment until after they are convicted of a crime. I wish you the best of luck, because you are in a very difficult situation. |
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NAMI http://www.nami.org/ Good find. Thanks. |
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