Topic: What do you usually say in a first message
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Mon 12/29/08 08:40 AM

A picture isn't enough for me to want to get to know someone. There has to be more there.


I agree, and points to the person who actually takes time to read the profile!

I tend to be leery of those without much in their profile although I do appreciate those who state their intentions straight up. winking

As for an opening email, I've been struggling with those. I just joined and got a little confused with the mutual match thing, but I figured it out. I was going with a "Seasons Greetings" thing and commenting about mutual interests...


I always read profiles before emailing someone. Seems as there aren't many of us who do that anymore :tongue:.

MeChrissy2's photo
Mon 12/29/08 08:44 AM
Please dear God, just don't ask how wet I get. And Welcome.

cityblues21's photo
Mon 12/29/08 09:00 AM

A picture isn't enough for me to want to get to know someone. There has to be more there.


I agree, and points to the person who actually takes time to read the profile!

I tend to be leery of those without much in their profile although I do appreciate those who state their intentions straight up. winking

As for an opening email, I've been struggling with those. I just joined and got a little confused with the mutual match thing, but I figured it out. I was going with a "Seasons Greetings" thing and commenting about mutual interests...



I find that I always read the profiles... every word. And if there aren't many words, hopefully the words that are there are worth reading. I have been confused about Mututal Match myself... should I write them...do I wait for them to write me, etc. Usually I wait a bit on those...with the perhaps incorrect thought that they will write me when they are ready...laugh If I haven't heard from them after awhile... some longer then others...I maybe send out a short hello... but then afterwards I always go hmmmm... that was pretty lame, why the hell did I do that? Some I don't write at all... because after a few drinks I think...if they wanted to match so bad...MAYBE they should have said hello...laugh Not very scientific I know... but I am not an expert either... I don't think I could do a form letter just to get a reply... I tend to think too much and feel that I should write on a more personal level and specifically mention something about the person I am writing too... an interest or something that I thought was worth mentioning. I guess I am not here to count how many responses I get... I just need the right response, from the right person, at the right time.

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Mon 12/29/08 09:02 AM
Offer free tap dancing lessons:banana:

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Mon 12/29/08 09:06 AM


A picture isn't enough for me to want to get to know someone. There has to be more there.


I agree, and points to the person who actually takes time to read the profile!

I tend to be leery of those without much in their profile although I do appreciate those who state their intentions straight up. winking

As for an opening email, I've been struggling with those. I just joined and got a little confused with the mutual match thing, but I figured it out. I was going with a "Seasons Greetings" thing and commenting about mutual interests...



I find that I always read the profiles... every word. And if there aren't many words, hopefully the words that are there are worth reading. I have been confused about Mututal Match myself... should I write them...do I wait for them to write me, etc. Usually I wait a bit on those...with the perhaps incorrect thought that they will write me when they are ready...laugh If I haven't heard from them after awhile... some longer then others...I maybe send out a short hello... but then afterwards I always go hmmmm... that was pretty lame, why the hell did I do that? Some I don't write at all... because after a few drinks I think...if they wanted to match so bad...MAYBE they should have said hello...laugh Not very scientific I know... but I am not an expert either... I don't think I could do a form letter just to get a reply... I tend to think too much and feel that I should write on a more personal level and specifically mention something about the person I am writing too... an interest or something that I thought was worth mentioning. I guess I am not here to count how many responses I get... I just need the right response, from the right person, at the right time.
I kind of like the mutual match thing it does let someone know you are interested... and if someone replies with a mutual match see where it goes.. BUT alas so many just ignore it after a mutual match its funny too. your on a singles site maybe hoping to meet someone and yet ... people don't even give the common courtsey of a no thank you or to talk with you. and so many profiles are so short.. yes I read them... but hey its all a shot in the dark if you ask me.

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Tue 12/30/08 09:56 AM
You're right, a picture isn't enough to get to know someone however you don't walk up to every single person in the street and say hello to and try to see if you're capable of being together.

Your profile speaks for itself. Your message doesn't have to be selective in order for you to see if this person is going to talk to you. They talk to you on what you wrote in your e-mail, they talk to you because they don't find you completely hideous, and they talk to you with a possibility of it might lead to friendship. People don't respond to people unless they are interested in talking with them.

If you write 10 e-mails on profiles, you read through 10 profiles, chose those 10 to write to, and if you're lucky you will hear back from 7 out of those 10. I'd say you have better odds of only hearing back from about 40% of the people on the internet. What people write in a profile is not exactly true ok you're taking a profile and making it that person. Remember something, this is the internet, people lie off the internet what makes you think they don't lie on it? So you're already feeding into possible lies from strangers you don't know, you're wasting time because you aren't going to hear back from every single person no matter what your e-mail says, and most importantly it's a ****ing e-mail. You know nothing about this person.

This is your cue, go to profiles where people seem interesting. You like their background, you like their picture, you like their age, you like their height and weight proportion, then you e-mail your set e-mail. When they respond to that, then you go on to look deeper into their profile. Then make casual conversation based on the reply. You take too much into a first response and you will waste time of finding that one potential person.

In the last 2 days, I have received 30 e-mails from the way I approach my situation. People are already getting knocked off because they have nothing to say, or stopped replying. You can't make people talk, you can't make people like you, what you can do is write to as many people as possible in the world and go from there. As many e-mails as I write, I still don't end up contacting half of the city I live in. You guys like this worldwide thing, oh my no no no no no not anymore :). That's just wayyy too many people hah.

Stupidity is another reason people don't last.

My best response was yeah there are good restaurants near where you live...... REALLY? what ones could those be? Hah

There are approximately 60 more e-mails out there that have yet to be viewed, I should get about another 30 in a week or so. Now I have 60 people 60 conversations 60 profiles from potential true matches. Then we begin talking and hopefully I will make friends.


squonk's photo
Tue 12/30/08 10:04 AM


A picture isn't enough for me to want to get to know someone. There has to be more there.


I agree, and points to the person who actually takes time to read the profile!

I tend to be leery of those without much in their profile although I do appreciate those who state their intentions straight up. winking

As for an opening email, I've been struggling with those. I just joined and got a little confused with the mutual match thing, but I figured it out. I was going with a "Seasons Greetings" thing and commenting about mutual interests...



I find that I always read the profiles... every word. And if there aren't many words, hopefully the words that are there are worth reading. I have been confused about Mututal Match myself... should I write them...do I wait for them to write me, etc. Usually I wait a bit on those...with the perhaps incorrect thought that they will write me when they are ready...laugh If I haven't heard from them after awhile... some longer then others...I maybe send out a short hello... but then afterwards I always go hmmmm... that was pretty lame, why the hell did I do that? Some I don't write at all... because after a few drinks I think...if they wanted to match so bad...MAYBE they should have said hello...laugh Not very scientific I know... but I am not an expert either... I don't think I could do a form letter just to get a reply... I tend to think too much and feel that I should write on a more personal level and specifically mention something about the person I am writing too... an interest or something that I thought was worth mentioning. I guess I am not here to count how many responses I get... I just need the right response, from the right person, at the right time.


Who says you need to do only 1 set e-mail copy paste... Make 4 or 6. Why must you get personal if you don't even know if the person is going to acknowledge your existence? Waste of time. If you want to try and sneak somethings in, make 5 different e-mail sets. Now I know that there are more than 5 different girls in the world but generally people seem to say the same ****ing thing. I want a guy like this, I like to cook, I like to go to the beach, I like to hangout with my friends, I like to cuddle on the couch, I like to chill and stay home watch a movie, I like to insert random phrase everyone uses on the internet. You want to make it personal, add one sentence to your e-mail that at least saves you time but writing an e-mail from scratch every single time, you're wasting time. You don't have to take my advice, or you could try it for one day and see where it gets you 8 days later.

Also the way I am doing this could create potential stalkers from the people who can't control themselves. So if I have created an internet filled of crazy psychos from now on, I do apologize to all the women of this world in advance. I never ever ever send a duplicate e-mail or bug them if they don't respond or keep responding. When conversation is dead, it's exactly that dead. Others may be pissed off it didn't work out after they started to become more personable with you, I'm sorry for this.

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Tue 12/30/08 10:06 AM
My gawd!!!! 300 words per minute???noway laugh

s1owhand's photo
Tue 12/30/08 10:06 AM
interact with them in the forums. keep it light and lively and they may well email you first!

bigsmile

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Tue 12/30/08 10:07 AM

interact with them in the forums. keep it light and lively and they may well email you first!

bigsmile


That's pretty much my philosophy, too. I don't do first messages.



SharpShooter10's photo
Tue 12/30/08 10:10 AM
Howdy waving works for me

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Tue 12/30/08 11:31 AM

Why must you get personal if you don't even know if the person is going to acknowledge your existence? Waste of time.



Why expect someone to acknowledge your existence if you're not going to make it more personal? Or if you're just complaining about wasting time?

Tj806's photo
Tue 12/30/08 11:37 AM
Edited by Tj806 on Tue 12/30/08 11:38 AM
have fun and do what you want and most importantly be yourself, if someone doesnt have an open mind enough to respond back to you then your better off not talking to them anyways.

Edit: My profile sucks, but I just dont care im here to hang and kill time while at work. :)

s1owhand's photo
Tue 12/30/08 11:39 AM
please email Lex and Dubz

devil

cityblues21's photo
Tue 12/30/08 12:13 PM



A picture isn't enough for me to want to get to know someone. There has to be more there.


I agree, and points to the person who actually takes time to read the profile!

I tend to be leery of those without much in their profile although I do appreciate those who state their intentions straight up. winking

As for an opening email, I've been struggling with those. I just joined and got a little confused with the mutual match thing, but I figured it out. I was going with a "Seasons Greetings" thing and commenting about mutual interests...



I find that I always read the profiles... every word. And if there aren't many words, hopefully the words that are there are worth reading. I have been confused about Mutual Match myself... should I write them...do I wait for them to write me, etc. Usually I wait a bit on those...with the perhaps incorrect thought that they will write me when they are ready...laugh If I haven't heard from them after awhile... some longer then others...I maybe send out a short hello... but then afterwards I always go hmmmm... that was pretty lame, why the hell did I do that? Some I don't write at all... because after a few drinks I think...if they wanted to match so bad...MAYBE they should have said hello...laugh Not very scientific I know... but I am not an expert either... I don't think I could do a form letter just to get a reply... I tend to think too much and feel that I should write on a more personal level and specifically mention something about the person I am writing too... an interest or something that I thought was worth mentioning. I guess I am not here to count how many responses I get... I just need the right response, from the right person, at the right time.


Who says you need to do only 1 set e-mail copy paste... Make 4 or 6. Why must you get personal if you don't even know if the person is going to acknowledge your existence? Waste of time. If you want to try and sneak somethings in, make 5 different e-mail sets. Now I know that there are more than 5 different girls in the world but generally people seem to say the same ****ing thing. I want a guy like this, I like to cook, I like to go to the beach, I like to hangout with my friends, I like to cuddle on the couch, I like to chill and stay home watch a movie, I like to insert random phrase everyone uses on the internet. You want to make it personal, add one sentence to your e-mail that at least saves you time but writing an e-mail from scratch every single time, you're wasting time. You don't have to take my advice, or you could try it for one day and see where it gets you 8 days later.

Also the way I am doing this could create potential stalkers from the people who can't control themselves. So if I have created an internet filled of crazy psychos from now on, I do apologize to all the women of this world in advance. I never ever ever send a duplicate e-mail or bug them if they don't respond or keep responding. When conversation is dead, it's exactly that dead. Others may be pissed off it didn't work out after they started to become more personable with you, I'm sorry for this.


All I have is time... and I do not consider it wasted. Yes, I am on the internet, and perhaps there are a bunch of crazies and what you call "bots". But I am a person and for now I choose to try and connect with other people as a person. Just as I would not go into a room full of people and walk up to EVERY single one and ask if they want to get to know each other better, nor would I send out a mass marketing scheme to get a reply on line. I tend to pick and choose and if I pick one that doesn't answer back... so be it. Even 6 different form letters does not seem like enough. You seem to generalize everyone... and I cannot do that. I think people are more unique and deserve a bit more personalization when I communicate with them. Of course a lot of the profiles all seem to have the same variations... but there are only so many words in the English language and not everyone is a vocabulary genius. Yes, perhaps my thinking is flawed, and perhaps I will not meet anyone ever...but when I am fortunate to get responses it seems more genuine and I do not have to waste my time fielding through numerous answers to my form letter? That would almost sound like a full time job. Again I am a bit more old fashioned I guess, and really am not into mass marketing myself.

I wish you good luck and hope you are successful in your quest.smile2

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Tue 12/30/08 12:51 PM

People don't respond to people unless they are interested in talking with them.



Actually, I will respond to everyone who emails me. That doesn't necessarily indicate any interest. Some people take it to mean that I am interested. However, sometimes, I'm just responding to be polite.

squonk's photo
Tue 12/30/08 12:57 PM
No no no no everyone is completely different in some way or another. I don't generalize anyone. All I said was what you will find in a profile.

I don't care what you write or what kind of thinking you have in your head, you can't change other people. Interested people will write back non interested will not. This is based on your personality, based on your profile, and what you look like. You don't like life eh so be it. I can't make you see the light.

Your responses are more genuine than mine? It's SAYING HELLO! Like when the phone rings. They acknowledge your existence. WALK THE STREET AND TALK TO EVERYONE! See how many are willing to talk to you. You don't like your responses, so be it. People are people and will always be people. We communicate with those who seem friendly, nice, etc but even then it's got the looks part. We tend to not communicate with bums why? Afraid? WHo knows.

70wpm no errors 100% accuracy :).

Do you honestly think the person doesn't think it's personal? You have never received one of my e-mails so how would you know if it's personal or not?

Here's an example take the 12 zodiac signs make a form letter for each of them and how you should get along. Make it completely bull**** but add cute funny terms to keep the ball rolling.

It's a first e-mail. You have nothing in common with them as much as you think you might and they think the exact samething coming off way too strong for a first e-mail will get a lot less responses.


squonk's photo
Tue 12/30/08 12:59 PM


People don't respond to people unless they are interested in talking with them.



Actually, I will respond to everyone who emails me. That doesn't necessarily indicate any interest. Some people take it to mean that I am interested. However, sometimes, I'm just responding to be polite.


Yes that does happen but the key here is *you always respond* right? So if both parties always respond conversation will continue and who knows in 5 years you might be pretty good friends :).

7z3r05's photo
Tue 12/30/08 01:01 PM

Hey everyone. I'm new to this site and to the idea of online dating so it's safe to say that I'm not very good at it. I want to meet new people and have conversations with them however I'm not so sure what to put in a first message to get a reply.

What does everyone here do? What tips do you have to offer to help me and others who are having the same problems?


INTERCOURSE!!!

INTERCOURSE NOW!!!!

then again, like dubz, i remain on mingle...

cityblues21's photo
Tue 12/30/08 01:15 PM

No no no no everyone is completely different in some way or another. I don't generalize anyone. All I said was what you will find in a profile.

I don't care what you write or what kind of thinking you have in your head, you can't change other people. Interested people will write back non interested will not. This is based on your personality, based on your profile, and what you look like. You don't like life eh so be it. I can't make you see the light.

Your responses are more genuine than mine? It's SAYING HELLO! Like when the phone rings. They acknowledge your existence. WALK THE STREET AND TALK TO EVERYONE! See how many are willing to talk to you. You don't like your responses, so be it. People are people and will always be people. We communicate with those who seem friendly, nice, etc but even then it's got the looks part. We tend to not communicate with bums why? Afraid? WHo knows.

70wpm no errors 100% accuracy :).

Do you honestly think the person doesn't think it's personal? You have never received one of my e-mails so how would you know if it's personal or not?

Here's an example take the 12 zodiac signs make a form letter for each of them and how you should get along. Make it completely bull**** but add cute funny terms to keep the ball rolling.

It's a first e-mail. You have nothing in common with them as much as you think you might and they think the exact samething coming off way too strong for a first e-mail will get a lot less responses.




Ok...you sent your email form or whatever, you know its contents, and you know what effort you put into it, and no I would not know if it was personal or not... but same thing... you have never gotten one of my emails, so you would not know if I were coming off way too strong or not either. Again I am not trying to rack up responses.

But at this point I will concur... you have a system that works for you.